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General Cricket => Latest Matches => Topic started by: smilley792 on October 31, 2014, 09:53:02 PM
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2nd test of there serious ont he go at mo, and looks like pakistan on top again.
580 for 6dec vs 22 for 1
Plus I. The first test aus lost quite big.
The aus side doesn't seem quite as intimidating as the one that beat England down(England were extra dire).
David Warner (W)
Chris Rogers
Steven Smith
Michael Clarke (C)
Glenn Maxwell
Mitchell Marsh
Brad Haddin
Mitchell Starc
Mitchell Johnson
Peter Siddle
Nathan Lyon
Apart from Warner Clarke and Johnson, there isn't the test wow factory in there.
Are they carrying injuries??(Harris, Watson?)
Is smith really a test no,3?
Is Glenn maxwell a test player?(he's failed at t20 in the last 9months, which is his stringer format)
Is haddin still good enough? Or time to replace?
Or is it merely the pitches in Abu Dhabi just not suited to the Aussies as much as the Pakistanis.
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Slow, spinning wickets is always going to favour Pakistan. Steve Smith is under rated, give him the ball and see whether he'll run with it! He is thought of as the next Skipper after all. Watson's got the best bowling average from any Australian in Asia since 2007, around 25 I think? Whilst everybody else is over 35+. Plus he'd slot in the batting line up nicely. Ryan Harris is in the top 5 (3?) test bowlers in the world. Maybe a little like England without Jimmy?
If the exact same sides played each other on Australian soil it would most probably be the opposite outcome. It's just the home advantage which you're allowed!
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I'd like to see Peter Nevill called up if they do decide on replacing Haddin. He or Sam Whiteman would be fresh, just please do not go with Matt Wade!!!
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So aus were 261 all out.
Batting line up changed due to night watchmen lion at 3. Maxwell 4 clarke 5 Smith 6 and Marsh 7.
Maxwell was second top scorer with 37 from 27 balls. Doesn't seem a normal test number 4 innings.
Anyone from aus no what sort of role he's been asked to play? Is he a pitch hitter? Or a case off just not able to rein in his style?
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Johnson and Harris transform an otherwise extremely average Australian side into something better; shorn of Harris by injury and most of Johnson's threat by the sluggish pitches, they can't cover up their other shortcomings - holes in the batting order, an ageing keeper and a spinner plucked from the clubs. Yes, it would probabaly be a different result in Australia, but you doubt it would be this...overwhelming.
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However, if England were to play this Australian side in Pakistan, what would the outcome be?
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However, if England were to play this Australian side in Pakistan, what would the outcome be?
Some village cricket!
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I'd say the results would be very similar. The games would just be a lot more boring...
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Misbah.
Fastest fifty in test cricket - 21 balls.
This series is just getting better, for those who want Aussies to get stuffed. :-)
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That's a turn up for the books,old slow hand breaking the fastest 50 record
Is it true his coach told him to put on weight?? :-)
As well as younis khan getting dropped before the series ,then telling the selectors to get stuffed-then gets recalled and hits ton,ton,double Ton
And now refuses to speak to the Pakistan cricket board?
You could'nt make it up...
Pakistan cricket always throws up some strange goings on
And the aussies are getting hammered
Absolutley marvellous!!
:) :)
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Australia are playing at the moment? Haven't seen it so it hasn't happened :)
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Just so you can't say that ...
http://m.espncricinfo.com/pakistan-v-australia-2014/engine/match/727929.html
Looks like he is starting to tire. Don't think he'll break Viv's fastest 100 now.
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Blimey! :o
Just had a look at the scores. Really pleased that Azhar Ali is batting well! Met him twice now and he carried my bat bag to nets. He is such a lovely genuine bloke and netting with him was an experience! He's almost at his second ton in two knocks......go on fella! :D
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However, if England were to play this Australian side in Pakistan, what would the outcome be?
Well, the conditions are not massively different to those in the 2013 Home Ashes series so you'd tend to back England in a close series, on the basis that Australia no longer have the opening pair that terrorised England during the 2013/4 series but do still have the brittle batting line up.
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Aussies need over 600 runs as Pakistan declare! Can't see that happening, but will be interesting to see who grits it out and gets runs.
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As an Australian, I was cheering on Misbah to get a hundred. Can block and smash the ball, when you least expect him to, like when Watson gets a test hundred!
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Really don't understand what's going on with the Aussies.
Pace Johnson siddle and start. Johnson to 2 wickets but bowled only 7 overs. While siddle and start bowled 11 and 14 for no wickets?
Spin was left to Lyon with smith bowling 6 overs at 9 a piece!! Yet maxwell wasn't used.
If maxwell is just there as a pinch hitter, wouldn't it be better to have finch in your side who is a much better batsmen, yet still has his little spin for part time?(plus he's an honorary yorkie)
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Hope we can get the draw, will be as good as a win to hold onto this game from this far behind.
Side note, anyone notice the Australians Albion helmets have the branding removed?
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If maxwell is just there as a pinch hitter, wouldn't it be better to have finch in your side who is a much better batsmen, yet still has his little spin for part time?(plus he's an honorary yorkie)
Maxwell's surprisingly got a much better FC record if you actually look through, 544 runs @ 45 in the last sheffield shield.
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Maxwell's surprisingly got a much better FC record if you actually look through, 544 runs @ 45 in the last sheffield shield.
Finch avg 48 for Yorkshire last season.
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Finch avg 48 for Yorkshire last season.
Maxwell averaged 55 for Hampshire. Admittedly his participation was bit limited however ;).
However so to was Finches really, he only played in 4 or 5 CC games didn't he?
Going to be interesting to see Maxwell bat now, under pressure to play it out.
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Maxwell averaged 55 for Hampshire. Admittedly his participation was bit limited however ;).
Didn't even now he played any fc for Hampshire, admittedly I never looked.
And finch played 6, I just know his stats as enjoyed watching. There both great fielders mind.
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And maxwell has gone!
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Australia looking in a bit of trouble then.
Gotta admit, Finch and Lyth's catches happening twice was pretty entertaining!
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It's hard to feel sorry for us when they pick guy's like Maxwell. His attempted reverse sweep a ball or 2 before he was dismissed will do me. Get someone in there that at least wants to fight for his country!
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If only there was somewhere for us in England to watch this.
Nudge nudge, hint hint.any links?
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Well could be over today at this rate...
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If only there was somewhere for us in England to watch this.
Nudge nudge, hint hint.any links?
Mate, just Google Pakistan vs Australia live streaming and you should be fine.
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Stream from cricket 365
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I got sent a link.
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h76/smilley792/20141102_113817_zpsvt78tjjm.jpg) (http://s61.photobucket.com/user/smilley792/media/20141102_113817_zpsvt78tjjm.jpg.html)
my morning is now sorted.
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share the link. Getting very annoyed with sky not having cricket on. It should have all the SA and AUS tests on for starters.. (exc Enlgand of course as that's just expected)
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sweet, that's more like it.. Test cricket.
Although, I do have to wonder how David Warner is regarded as a test cricketer.. He's a slogger, limited overs batsmen
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sweet, that's more like it.. Test cricket.
Although, I do have to wonder how David Warner is regarded as a test cricketer.. He's a slogger, limited overs batsmen
He seems to be doing all right :D.
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You're either joking or ignorant, he has improved out of sight the last 12 months.
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Did anyone tell the Pakistani batsmen to double it, as Sunday runs count as half?? :D
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sweet, that's more like it.. Test cricket.
Although, I do have to wonder how David Warner is regarded as a test cricketer.. He's a slogger, limited overs batsmen
So the guy averaging a touch under 48 with 9 test match hundreds is a slogger, limited overs batsman?
Do t think you can have seen him play much, I personally love watching him in test cricket. He's come good, and to me proves Alex Hales has to play test cricket for England as an aggressive opener! The days of two plod along batsman grinding out 2 an over all day are gone!
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Add aaron finch in there as well! Don't know how he's not in the aussie test side! If you are good enough to score 100's in t20 internationals you are good enough for any format imho.
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Add aaron finch in there as well! Don't know how he's not in the aussie test side! If you are good enough to score 100's in t20 internationals you are good enough for any format imho.
To be honest there's not much space for him right now! Probably needs to push on a bit harder in FC cricket this winter then perhaps he'll be considered a bit more.
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Add aaron finch in there as well! Don't know how he's not in the aussie test side! If you are good enough to score 100's in t20 internationals you are good enough for any format imho.
Finch has a very good 1st class record, but who would you drop for him?
I'd say Warner, Rodgers, Clarke & Smifffy are almost nailed down for a place in the side, and it would be harsh to drop Mitch Marsh after the start he's had to his career. No show for the Big Show after one test??
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Finch has a very good 1st class record, but who would you drop for him?
I'd say Warner, Rodgers, Clarke & Smifffy are almost nailed down for a place in the side, and it would be harsh to drop Mitch Marsh after the start he's had to his career. No show for the Big Show after one test??
Are we talking about the same Finch :
http://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Players/35/35381/f_Batting_by_Season.html (http://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Players/35/35381/f_Batting_by_Season.html)
:D.
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Are we talking about the same Finch :
[url]http://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Players/35/35381/f_Batting_by_Season.html[/url] ([url]http://cricketarchive.com/Archive/Players/35/35381/f_Batting_by_Season.html[/url])
:D.
Averages 122 in 2011 in Zimbabwe, class record ;)
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Averages 122 in 2011 in Zimbabwe, class record ;)
Haha, wonder why that is ;).
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WArner, for all he made his first strides on the international stage in the format, was never a T20 player - even in those early forays, he was hitting his boundaries with proper cricket shots and decent technique. Eergo, whilst he'll never be as easy on the eye as, say, Michael Clarke might be, his successes at the top level are no surprise and the product of good cricket.
Does that mean that the like sof Finch, Hales, Roy etc will naturally be able to do the same? I'd say not - Hales struggles against the moving ball, Roy lacks the defensive technique and Finch...well as he did for Yorkshire last season, its interesting that he did it batting at six - that is to say, Jason Gillespie felt that he was less likely to succeed early on than Jack Leaning (a 20 year old with three first class games) and Jonny Bairstow (a wonderful player with a very noticeable flaw in his game)
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So the guy averaging a touch under 48 with 9 test match hundreds is a slogger, limited overs batsman?
Do t think you can have seen him play much, I personally love watching him in test cricket. He's come good, and to me proves Alex Hales has to play test cricket for England as an aggressive opener! The days of two plod along batsman grinding out 2 an over all day are gone!
I pretty much watch every test match going (tv wise), so I've seen him as much as most. He's aggressive etc etc but he's loose and as his dismissal today shows.. gets out in a mannor not really befitting a test match batsmen. I expect limited overs guys to get out like that as they just aren't as good. Yes the days of 2 an over are gone but just because you go at 4+ doesn't make you better. Aus have no defence, they just go at the ball (like limited overs). It's being shown up on non flat tracks.
Each to their own, leave the 'biffing' to 2020 games. Tests is about more than that (or should be?), bowlers should work for their wickets as batsmen shouldn't be giving it away. however, if I were a bowler I'd fancy my chances of getting warner out as he goes after the ball. He might come off every so often. Modern test match cricket is so flat track that stats are baised unfortunately.
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Misbah scored 101 in 57, wow!! And, I missed it. :D
Debutants bowlers like Yasir and Imran Khan are good prospects for the future.
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Did misbah use a b3 I wonder?
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Did misbah use a b3 I wonder?
Or TK?
I remember hearing from him and his acquaintance that he had bought couple B3s and liked one of them while did not like others.
He got them when Pakistan was over UK for Champions League, pretty sure those weren't used.
Whichever bat, seems at its peak. Look at the grains;
(http://cache1.asset-cache.net/gc/458162006-misbah-ul-haq-of-pakistan-bats-as-brad-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QTr5Ft3WMSajUFNR%2baBGTbg0tEG7eDvfI%2f8IkImwUjCBJwMIGooI8GBI2uC00cmytw%3d%3d)
(http://cache4.asset-cache.net/gc/458273008-misbah-ul-haq-of-pakistan-celebrates-after-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QTHjboHku%2fsKce21rZk5hHBvoQcnMJRXS6WZD030gdPE%2f%2f0%2bQbHUprgwhF97nNepeA%3d%3d)
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Always had a question which perplexed me, yes pitches are flat but doesn't that make it easier for all batsmans to score some runs on dead decks?
Spin shouldn't be an excuse as its nothing new, it is as good as the game. So, as a professional player you should be able to play it regardless it spins or doesn't in your country.
As far pacers go, one who bowl well on flat tracks will most likely excel on bowling friendly conditions as well, as for him latter would be less toiling.
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^ That is why I feel that these new bowlers will make the team much stronger for tours of Aus etc. Put these guys with likes of Junaid, Irfan, and Wahab Riaz and they got a decent bowling line up. Now, if they can do something about their inconsistent batting. Why not bring back Shoaib Malik? He has performed well in County, CPL and could be a great number 6.
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^ That is why I feel that these new bowlers will make the team much stronger for tours of Aus etc. Put these guys with likes of Junaid, Irfan, and Wahab Riaz and they got a decent bowling line up. Now, if they can do something about their inconsistent batting. Why not bring back Shoaib Malik? He has performed well in County, CPL and could be a great number 6.
I would also commend the current bowlers from the side who are extremely inexperienced and two are debutant while other two (barring third, Mohammad Hafeez) have just couple of games under their belt. So, to dismiss Australians in each and every innings is certainly a feat.
Agreed. More so, in less than a year those two criminal bowlers would also be available for selection.
Consistency is the key, however, these players solely bank on confidence so it would be interesting how they perform in limited format for which we will have to wait few weeks as they play New Zealand for three test matches.
Problem with Shoaib Malik is that he hasn't been consistent, he was selected for last Twenty20 World Cup but was unable to do enough to warrant his place. He was a great prospect but the way he was ousted from captaincy was when he went downhill.
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Pakistan now just 2 wickets away from a 2-0 series victory and the Aussies have been comprehensively outplayed from ball 1
fantastic effort from Pakistan, yes in their 'home' conditions but every other team in world cricket has home advantage so it's no different :)
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Seems Pakistan have really got to grips with conditions in the UAE. Aus and England have been comprehensively beaten out there (did SA win or draw the test series they played out there?)
Are the teams underestimating Pakistan too?
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Without bigging up conditions in the UAE, I remember some references to the pitches being unique. They are slow and turn a little but they can be skiddy as well. England played too much off the back foot when they were there, plus they had Ajmal throwing it down. They did at least win the ODI/T20 part of it. Not sure Australia have the same excuse. I haven't seen the current spinners but it is a bit odd that Lyon gets nothing from the decks but the Pakistan spinners do. Are Pakistan that good in those conditions with the bat or are the Pakistan bowlers doing something different?
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Without bigging up conditions in the UAE, I remember some references to the pitches being unique. They are slow and turn a little but they can be skiddy as well. England played too much off the back foot when they were there, plus they had Ajmal throwing it down. They did at least win the ODI/T20 part of it. Not sure Australia have the same excuse. I haven't seen the current spinners but it is a bit odd that Lyon gets nothing from the decks but the Pakistan spinners do. Are Pakistan that good in those conditions with the bat or are the Pakistan bowlers doing something different?
Lyon is at his best when the ball isn't really spinning, I.e. when he can just bowl tightly and smartly. if you look at the stats for this series he bowled far too straight for an offie on a spinning wicket.