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Equipment => Bats => Bat Care => Topic started by: wayward_hayward on November 15, 2014, 09:03:43 PM

Title: Rather Large Bottom Crack
Post by: wayward_hayward on November 15, 2014, 09:03:43 PM
I have been meaning to take on this bat, which was a mates. My plan is to cram as much glue as possible in it, clamp it and then use either some twine or fibre tape to hold it together.

Any other advice to salvage this carbon handle Puma?

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Title: Re: Rather Large Bottom Crack
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 15, 2014, 09:05:56 PM
Honest opinion that probably dead bud.

What i'd do is glue, clamp and probably put a couple of dowels in there as I love a good bat resurrection and enjoy fixing them more than using them!  :D
Title: Re: Rather Large Bottom Crack
Post by: wayward_hayward on November 15, 2014, 09:23:20 PM
Honest opinion that probably dead bud.

What i'd do is glue, clamp and probably put a couple of dowels in there as I love a good bat resurrection and enjoy fixing them more than using them!  :D

It's more of project to test my skills more than anything else. If it can be used afterwards, then bobs your uncle. Would be a shame not to be able to use the carbon handle.
Title: Re: Rather Large Bottom Crack
Post by: Number4 on November 15, 2014, 09:35:43 PM
When I read the topic I thought it was about Fattus.
Title: Re: Rather Large Bottom Crack
Post by: cam66 on November 15, 2014, 10:04:52 PM
Yeah that bat is dead that happened to my ballistic 5000. If you really want to fix it glue would be the way to go
Title: Re: Rather Large Bottom Crack
Post by: jamferg on November 15, 2014, 10:12:33 PM
glue and at least 5 dowels inserted with the drill holes all at slightly different angles
Title: Re: Rather Large Bottom Crack
Post by: FattusCattus on November 16, 2014, 12:16:23 PM
When I read the topic I thought it was about Fattus.

Excellent work!
Title: Re: Rather Large Bottom Crack
Post by: rahul_1987 on November 16, 2014, 12:24:24 PM
Glue it up and use it as a net/indoors bat. Gonna go away for sure in the match  :)
Title: Re: Rather Large Bottom Crack
Post by: hit4six on November 16, 2014, 02:52:19 PM
The best thing to do with this bat is use a flat object, like a screwdriver perhaps and open the break up as much as you can. This will ensure you can get as much glue into the bat as possible. Clamp the bat from both sides and the top to ensure that the glue binds from all angles. For a big break, I usually give the bat 2-3 days in the clamp just to ensure it is 100% solid. To re-enforce the break, I would insert some hard wood dowel (6mm) into the edge, approximately 2cm apart. I would then use a drawknife to scrape away the excess dried glue and coarse sand the area. Finish with the bat repair tape and give the bat a go.
Title: Re: Rather Large Bottom Crack
Post by: Gurujames on November 16, 2014, 03:15:36 PM
In my experience, which is fairly limited, a front to back split is often terminal. However, I agree, open on the crack as much as possible to get glue in. If you know a nurse/doctor/intravenous drug addict, I suggest you use a syringe and needle to get glue as high into the split as possible. Use a PVA glue as others are too brittle once set. I use sash clamps though a vice would be good too and leave to set for 24 hrs. Dowel with fluted dowels as these allow glue to surround the dowel and give better adhesion. Once set rub down and leave for another few days before you apply linseed oil.  Leave another few days then tape up. Good luck.
Title: Re: Rather Large Bottom Crack
Post by: KIPPERS on November 16, 2014, 05:28:38 PM
I use bamboo thick chopsticks instead of Dowel they are more flexable.

PS When I read the topic I thought it was about Ms Kardasians A**se
Title: Re: Rather Large Bottom Crack
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 16, 2014, 05:38:25 PM
I use bamboo thick chopsticks instead of Dowel they are more flexable.
Doesn't that mean they won't add the same rigidity to the repair?
I thought the idea was to put something solid through the repair to re-enforce the join, so you wouldn't want anything too flexible?

I may be wrong, I've pretty much taught myself woodwork and repairs so the chances I'm barking up the wrong tree are rather high!
Title: Re: Rather Large Bottom Crack
Post by: KIPPERS on November 16, 2014, 05:48:00 PM
it works for me, woods a natural material that moves and flexes a little I find a lot of Dowel just cracks because its too rigid
Title: Re: Rather Large Bottom Crack
Post by: Gurujames on November 16, 2014, 05:48:27 PM
I think the bamboo skewers are a good idea. Anything too stiff only encourages more cracking. PVA allows some flexibility and the bamboo should flex with the glue better than dowels. If you wanted a stiff repair you would put in 3 inch screws and plug the screw heads. Through experience I can this can cause the bat to fracture in spectacular style.
Title: Re: Rather Large Bottom Crack
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 16, 2014, 05:52:06 PM
I think the bamboo skewers are a good idea. Anything too stiff only encourages more cracking. PVA allows some flexibility and the bamboo should flex with the glue better than dowels. If you wanted a stiff repair you would put in 3 inch screws and plug the screw heads. Through experience I can this can cause the bat to fracture in spectacular style.
Difference being dowels are made of wood so it's a legal repair, 3 inch screws cannot be used for a legal repair (nor can staples now I think of it, but that didn't stop me...  :-[)
Title: Re: Rather Large Bottom Crack
Post by: Gurujames on November 16, 2014, 06:11:27 PM
Bamboo is a grass so I don't think they are legal either. Lol
Title: Re: Rather Large Bottom Crack
Post by: KIPPERS on November 16, 2014, 06:12:36 PM
good point
Title: Re: Rather Large Bottom Crack
Post by: FattusCattus on November 16, 2014, 08:10:51 PM
Illegal Grass?????????????

Dammit!
Title: Re: Rather Large Bottom Crack
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 16, 2014, 09:11:20 PM
Illegal Grass?????????????

Dammit!

We had a big West Indian playing for us a few seasons ago, he used to carry a stash of the stuff!  :D
Title: Re: Rather Large Bottom Crack
Post by: KIPPERS on November 17, 2014, 10:06:12 AM
To repair bats???????????????
Title: Re: Rather Large Bottom Crack
Post by: Seniorplayer on November 17, 2014, 10:44:13 AM
From experience of repairing cracks like that do as you have said but if you intend to use the bat do as suggested and fit dowels as IMO  glue etc won' t hold.the that crack together.
Title: Re: Rather Large Bottom Crack
Post by: tim2000s on November 17, 2014, 05:17:01 PM
The title of the thread made me wonder whether I might be looking at pictures of a rather large bottom....
Title: Re: Rather Large Bottom Crack
Post by: brokenbat on November 17, 2014, 06:41:38 PM
The title of the thread made me wonder whether I might be looking at pictures of a rather large bottom....

that gives me an idea for the next "big bottom" bat out there.. The "KK".. get it?
Title: Re: Rather Large Bottom Crack
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 17, 2014, 07:17:56 PM
These jokes are all cack now lads...
Title: Re: Rather Large Bottom Crack
Post by: wayward_hayward on November 17, 2014, 07:27:39 PM
I thought the title was cracking personally......
Title: Re: Rather Large Bottom Crack
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 17, 2014, 07:29:04 PM
You're making an ass of yourself now!

Edited because of the (no swearing please) swear filter!
Title: Re: Rather Large Bottom Crack
Post by: SkipperJ on November 18, 2014, 06:44:10 PM
After gluing, I would suggest binding the toe with twine, for extra protection.