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General Cricket => Latest Matches => Topic started by: harry gamble on December 07, 2014, 01:43:07 PM
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As England are looking clueless in ODIs i thought it would be a good idea for everyone to share there thoughts on what the team should be for the first match, who should get a chance and where England are going wrong.
What you think
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Alastair Cook
Ian Bell
Alex Hales
Eoin Morgan
Joe Root
James Taylor
Moeen Ali
Ravi Bopara
Jos Buttler
Chris Woakes
Stuart Broad
Chris Jordan
James Tredwell
Steven Finn
Expect our squad will look like that (not saying that's what I would want it to look like). Lineup I don't think we can really have a clue til the end of the tri-series.
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Dear england selectors
Keep Chris Jordan in the ODI side, not the Test side for now.
Keep Ben Stokes in the Test side, don't have him in the ODI side.
Give Hales a fair chance at the top of the order with Moeen.
Leave Captain Morgan at the helm, today proved we don't need Cook in the ODI side.
For the World Cup please can we go with something like this:
Moeen
Hales
Titch
Rooooot
King Ravi
Captain Morgan
Butler
Jordan
Woakes (Broad if fit)
Treadwell
Finn
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Cook
Ali
Taylor
Root
Morgan
Buttler
Rashid
Broad
Woakes
Finn
Anderson
Is what I'd like to see within the realms of reality.
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#MooresOut #CookOut
Leave Cook as a test only batsmen. I'd say there is no shame in it but far from it.. I'd value a test match batsmen over any T20 biffer or ODI player anyday.. stick to what you are good at Mr Cook. Moores.. you haven't got a clue, go back to county cricket and stock stealing a living from the clueless ECB
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Hales
Moeen
taylor
Root
Roy
Ravi
billings
Butler
Woakes
Jordan
Broad
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Hales
Moeen
taylor
Root
Roy
Ravi
billings
Butler
Woakes
Jordan
Broad
love to see this team apart from maybe billings out for finn, have to have roy opening or three and everyone moving down a place
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If I were selecting the squad with no preconceptions other than that Pietersen is not available for selection, I'd take:
Moeen Ali
Hales
Taylor
Ballance
Root
Morgan (c)
Bopara
Buttler
Rashid
Broad
Anderson
Finn
Woakes
Footitt
Bairstow
With a view to fielding a "best XI" of:
Hales
Ali
Taylor/Balance
Root
Morgan
Bopara
Buttler
Rashid
Broad
Finn
Anderson/Footitt
Balance is another, like Taylor, who has immense hitting power that has not really yet been seen in the international game - but both, as well as Root, are proper players so we really don't need the accumulators at all. Rashid as main spinner is a no brainer when you have Root, Ali and Bopara to share ten overs. Footitt is quicker than Gurney as the left arm option and...well...who do you think international batsmen would rather face?
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Footit was the one that broke Klingers arm in the rl cup this season wasn't he? That was one vicious ball I've got to admit.
His economy of 6.4 for last season is a little bit less flattering however unfortunately :(.
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Woakes at his pace at top level needs to do more with the ball.
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Agreed Woakes is just seems a bowling machine bowler at that level I'm afraid.
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Footit was the one that broke Klingers arm in the rl cup this season wasn't he? That was one vicious ball I've got to admit.
His economy of 6.4 for last season is a little bit less flattering however unfortunately :(.
Maybe so, but (a) its still better than Jade Dernbach and (b) the point here is not about having five line and length bowlers blocking up an end - England need someone who can provide an impact, and Footitt is he best bet I can see in that role. As noted, my side is replete with bowling options - Broad, Finn, Footitt, Bopara, Rashid, Ali, Root - so there is a bit of leeway for him not to bowl a full ten if the hammer is down.
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With a view to fielding a "best XI" of:
Hales
Ali
Taylor/Balance
Root
Morgan
Bopara
Buttler
Rashid
Broad
Finn
Anderson/Footitt
Wash your mouth out with soap and water...? Fielding a "best XI"? What kind of ECB selector are you? "Best" had better mean "the most malleable and likely to toe the ECB line" or your job's on the line son!
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Wash your mouth out with soap and water...? Fielding a "best XI"? What kind of ECB selector are you? "Best" had better mean "the most malleable and likely to toe the ECB line" or your job's on the line son!
Absolutely Tim, Manormanic you are clearly outside cricket and don't know what you are talking about. Most of cricket is played in the dressing room, about how people speak and carry themselves in press conferences and when promoting the latest ECB sponsor.
We all know that actually playing the game (outside the nets, obviously - where everyone is hitting the ball really well) is well down on the list of needs.
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Why does Finn keep getting a shout? From what I've seen he's bowling 130k/h.
If Finn isn't bowling 90mph+ then he is useless in my opinion. Doesn't swing it and doesn't have the accuracy. Just cannon fodder bowling at that pace for me.
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Why does Finn keep getting a shout? From what I've seen he's bowling 130k/h.
If Finn isn't bowling 90mph+ then he is useless in my opinion. Doesn't swing it and doesn't have the accuracy. Just cannon fodder bowling at that pace for me.
agree with this, unless finn is bowling 90+ then drop him.
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Woakes at his pace at top level needs to do more with the ball.
At his Pace? Not sure if anybody cares to look anymore, but he's been England's fastest bowler over the last 2 games, faster than Finn, Jordan & Stokes.
Plus, nobody does a lot with the ball in Sri Lanka! Seem to remember Woakes getting a 6-fer in Oz, and that was before he put on this extra 5mph.
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Michael Vaughan was saying that the issue with Woakes is that his action is so pure that he is easy to follow and bat against. Regardless, i think Woakes is a very talented player and should be persevered with.
I just don't understand how so many players break down when they geet to the england side - but thinking about it they always have - how many one day players did Duncan Fleture go through, for example - loads.
We have to accept that it takes time to adapt to the higher demands of international sport...
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A HALES
M ALI
TAYLOR
MORGAN
ROOT
RAVI BOP
BUTTLER
BROAD
RASHID
PLUNKET
JORDAN
Ok it wont happen