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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: SOULMAN1012 on December 28, 2014, 05:26:42 PM
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Evening forum family
Now I need to hear people's experience of having weight reduced from there bats? I have recently picked up a new bat . I went to to workshop to choose it and was happy with it at the time. The performance and profile/shape I absolutely love . But iv had a net with it and also tapping it up and playing shadow shots at home I think it's too heavy.
Now I know the weight of the bat having weighed it when I netted with it at Vitas a few weeks back but I actually don't weigh my bats or normally pick a bat on weight just go on feel and pick up but I'm thinking this may stop me getting my hands through the ball when cutting and pulling or playing delicate shots.
I do not like concaving really on my bats and know that if I have weight removed I could end up with a concaved to hell bat which I don't want.
I would need about 3/4oz removed from this I reckon to make totally happy but I do not want to compromise that performance
. I also don't want to sell as this could be my match bat this year .
What's members views
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That's quite a bit of weight to remove! Is it worth trying to counterbalance so you don't have to remove as much? Alternatively you could sell it to me cheap as I don't mind the extra weight and it's obviously a very nice bat if you are willing to go to the trouble! :D
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I had 3oz removed from my Chase 175 Beluga, still performed very well and the only difference was it went from a full profile to a concaved one.
Depends where there's wood that can be removed as to if it can be done and if it will effect performance though bud.
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Would removing the handle and drilling it be an option? Hunts offer this as an option on their new bats. Would save having to mess around with the profile I would have thought.
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Few years back, I took 3oz off my laver,,
The bat was huge and had a stupidly big bulge,,it was too heavy for me to play any shots with, so I sanded a mm at a time with an industrial disc sander at work, until the pick up felt a lot better
When I got it,,it weighed 2.12,, after the sanding(basically removing the bulge) it was 2.9
I scored 650 league runs that season and finished top 5 league averages
The bat lasted me a good four seasons use before a dodgy ball destroyed the middle
It's still in my top 3 bats I've owned
As for the weight removal,, I don't like concaving, so personally I would never remove weight that way
My bat ended up with a flat profile from the sanding
If the bats a really good performing bat, then it might be worth having some weight removed
If performance is not that good, then might be better moving it on?
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I've toyed with the idea but never gone through with it... purely for reasons like concaving, losing the stickers etc.. plenty of forum sponsors on here who'll do the weight reduction for you but it'll cost you 40-50 gbp when postage is included.
I realise this is a custom bat but you either need to accept the extra cost and the concaving? or keep it as it is or sell it on (most likely at a loss).
However, I've always wondered if the weight reduction can be from all over the bat leaving the same profile or whether it has to come off the back leading to concaving. This is where we need one of the sponsors or someone who's had this done...
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Speaking of DIY weight reductions by sanding down, a couple of years ago I rounded the spine on an old GM Purist and it went from 2lb11 to 2lb7.5 naked, and that still went like a rocket launcher!
To do that used 80 grit paper to initially round the spine, then all over the bat so it was "rough" all over. Once I was happy the spine was level I worked up the grades of paper until it was nicely finished again. It's to this day one of my favourite ever bats (and a lovely shape if I do say so myself)
Resulted in this.
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Would it be posible to dry it out a tad more without making it too brittle?
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This is what 3oz looks like apparently.
(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b540/busav8/3_zpsa3af04e3.jpg) (http://s1290.photobucket.com/user/busav8/media/3_zpsa3af04e3.jpg.html)
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@Jaffa Well I'd start by taking the sticker off if I wanted to remove 3oz ;)
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Not sure it'll make that much difference, itd be just like if the podshaver wanted to make it that light to start with.
Just ensure its took from places that maintain the pick up.
i have to ask though. your a man with a decent willow collection. what makes this so special its worth going to the trouble over to become your match bat?
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It's definitely doable, good mate of mine had 4oz+ taken off his Amplus last year and it still goes like a rocket. It did weigh 3lbs 2 or something daft to start with though which obviously helped, it's still a big heavy bat even after the reduction.
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It can be done successfully without affecting performance but it does depend on how thick the bat is as to where the wood can be removed from the key areas for removing willow are the toe the back of the bat were the stickers are and the shoulders. If the bat is big enough wood from these areas could be removed without concaving.
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Few years back, I took 3oz off my laver,,
The bat was huge and had a stupidly big bulge,,it was too heavy for me to play any shots with, so I sanded a mm at a time with an industrial disc sander at work, until the pick up felt a lot better
When I got it,,it weighed 2.12,, after the sanding(basically removing the bulge) it was 2.9
I scored 650 league runs that season and finished top 5 league averages
The bat lasted me a good four seasons use before a dodgy ball destroyed the middle
It's still in my top 3 bats I've owned
As for the weight removal,, I don't like concaving, so personally I would never remove weight that way
My bat ended up with a flat profile from the sanding
If the bats a really good performing bat, then it might be worth having some weight removed
If performance is not that good, then might be better moving it on?
So, the change in the shape of the spine/back hump did not affect the performance ?
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Speaking of DIY weight reductions by sanding down, a couple of years ago I rounded the spine on an old GM Purist and it went from 2lb11 to 2lb7.5 naked, and that still went like a rocket launcher!
I am now beginning to wonder if the shape of the bat matters at all? We are paying hundreds of dollars for these "shapes" and profiles, is that all gimmickry?
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What weight is the bat and approx dimensions? 3-4 oz can be nothing or can leave a bat tiny. If you were to take 1mm off pretty much everywhere and then give it some minor concaving then it should be possible. I have a travisher which takes out probably 2mm of concaving if that. Barely noticeable and will still give you that full looking profile.
I'm happy to take a look and see what I can do for you.
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What weight is the bat and approx dimensions? 3-4 oz can be nothing or can leave a bat tiny. If you were to take 1mm off pretty much everywhere and then give it some minor concaving then it should be possible. I have a travisher which takes out probably 2mm of concaving if that. Barely noticeable and will still give you that full looking profile.
I'm happy to take a look and see what I can do for you.
And there in that one post is what makes this forum such a unique and brilliant place.
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What weight is the bat and approx dimensions? 3-4 oz can be nothing or can leave a bat tiny. If you were to take 1mm off pretty much everywhere and then give it some minor concaving then it should be possible. I have a travisher which takes out probably 2mm of concaving if that. Barely noticeable and will still give you that full looking profile.
I'm happy to take a look and see what I can do for you.
The bat is 2.14 at the moment. It has a fair amount of wood all over the blade. I'll get some pics to you John and see what can be done with it mate.
I'm going to enquire with the bat maker as well and see what he says.
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Depends on the bat but thats a lot of timber might be best to sell it and buy a bat at 2 10
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The bat is 2.14 at the moment. It has a fair amount of wood all over the blade. I'll get some pics to you John and see what can be done with it mate.
I'm going to enquire with the bat maker as well and see what he says.
Ok mate, drop me an email and I'll take a look.
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So, the change in the shape of the spine/back hump did not affect the performance ?
I am now beginning to wonder if the shape of the bat matters at all? We are paying hundreds of dollars for these "shapes" and profiles, is that all gimmickry?
The shape of the bat after the sanding bears no resemblance to how laver shaped it
The bat is basically flat down the back of it
BUT,,,, it's in my all time top three of bats?
Well over 2000 runs scored by me, and my son used it at winter training for Somerset for two years,because of how well it picked up
I will post a pic of it this morning, (got me very misty eyed)ha
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Come on @Northern monkey we want photos...
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Will go and dig the bat outta the shed and post a pic
(Just moved house,still trying to find stuff!)
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I think it does. I had a new shape Newbery Mjolnir at 2'14 but picked up nicely and felt good swinging it round the shop. Got into the nets with it and soon found it was too heavy. Took it down to 2'11 and the previously generous middle that saw the ball fly from everywhere became tiny. I played a couple of games with it and gave up on it. Stuck it on eBay and got £80 odd for it at a net loss of £150 including the cost of the weight reduction for a bat that had two games scoring about 12 runs and three net sessions.
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This is what 3oz looks like apparently.
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Is it only me thinking.... is that the toe of a bat cut off? Why?
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Take a long handle, cut the toe off... cheap way to make a t20 style bat? ;)
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I know the laver looks butchered! But it proved effective
I hadn't noticed how thick i had left the toe, it's not far off the same as my Affinity Toro
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Matt took 4oz off a 666 I had and it went well before and after. Profile was a bit flatter but picked up brilliantly, went from 2'13 to 2'9.
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Salix took 2Oz out of a bat I had just by rounding off the spine in the toe and with some gentle concaving, forgot I'd had it done until I saw some pictures of the bats when new on my HD.
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I am now beginning to wonder if the shape of the bat matters at all? We are paying hundreds of dollars for these "shapes" and profiles, is that all gimmickry?
david gower and brian lara used to bat with a bat without a spine .............. in fact it was concaved out
its all horsesh1t to get you to part with £400 - £500 in my opinion
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I buy shapes I like and as long as the point where I hit the ball and get fewest vibrations is roughly mid height, I'm not overly concerned by the shape as a whole. Hence why I am still loving the Dynadrive!
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I'd love to have a go at making a dynadrive
I think it provokes such strong opinion on bat design
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Dropped my Warsop off yesterday to have some weight removed so will see in a couple of weeks what it comes back like.
I have to be honest and say that I found the service interesting as was told weight could only be removed from the middle despite there being a lot of wood in toe and shoulder area so I was talking about maybe more of a duck bill toe that a lot of bats have at present and gradually working way to middle. He seemed confused by this and just said you will go from a 40mm edge to approx 30mm which I was fine with. I just said I do not want it too come back like a concaved to hell Indian bat.
Well I guess we will wait and see and once used in its new weight I'll let you know if it's effected performance
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Dropped my Warsop off yesterday to have some weight removed so will see in a couple of weeks what it comes back like.
I have to be honest and say that I found the service interesting as was told weight could only be removed from the middle despite there being a lot of wood in toe and shoulder area so I was talking about maybe more of a duck bill toe that a lot of bats have at present and gradually working way to middle. He seemed confused by this and just said you will go from a 40mm edge to approx 30mm which I was fine with. I just said I do not want it too come back like a concaved to hell Indian bat.
Well I guess we will wait and see and once used in its new weight I'll let you know if it's effected performance
You can take weight anywhere as long as you aren't leaving it too thin. Unless you are rebalancing a bat and of course the dimensions allow, it's best to remove weight from all over. By removing it just in one area that's going to make the pick up a bit different to what it is now
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Chris If it was my bat With a lot of wood in the toe and shoulders I would ask for the wood to be removed from there first rather than the Middle and see how it feels that said I guess the batmakers knows his stuff.
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Warsop can be a bit funny with any changes to a bat or out of the ordinary in my experience. It the only negative ive ever heard of with them.I think they view it as they know what they are doing and don't like changing the bat after it's been made
Iv'e been down there myself and found them excellent, my mate had a custom made bat last season there and it did crack in an unusual place(the back) and they replaced it with an even better quality willow all no quibbles and no problem
he's delighted with it
I've had a couple of platinums and was stupid enough to sell them on :)