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Title: My 2015 GM Octane F2 808 , Is there such thing as too much heartwood?
Post by: aussie.kooky on January 15, 2015, 06:48:21 AM

I have just received my new 2015 GM Octane F2 808 that I had shipped to me from the UK to Australia. I have to say that when it arrived , I was taken back by how much heartwood the bat has on it. The blade is over two thirds heartwood and I must say that for a 808 it has approx 14 straight grains ( even though most of them are in the heartwood). After reading a few other posts on here and being a long time supporter of the GM product I am left asking what standards do they use in the grading process. I have not had a chance to use the bat yet and I will upload some more pics when I can , I guess I would just like to know .... Is there such thing as too much heartwood? And will it affect the performance?

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/pX05q1ABOdP__SnlNK_vmOFrdYz861SKf5R0IOiIoQ=w145-h259-p-no)

Title: Re: My 2015 GM Octane F2 808 , Is there such thing as too much heartwood?
Post by: smilley792 on January 15, 2015, 07:05:03 AM

I am a heart wood fan and I like that bat!


Hope it goes as well as my 2015 octane 808 does.

Title: Re: My 2015 GM Octane F2 808 , Is there such thing as too much heartwood?
Post by: aussie.kooky on January 15, 2015, 07:06:09 AM

Me too smiley. Mine is 2 pounds 10. How about yours mate? Had a hit with it yet?

Title: Re: My 2015 GM Octane F2 808 , Is there such thing as too much heartwood?
Post by: smilley792 on January 15, 2015, 07:11:47 AM

Mine is 2 . 14 bang on my wait. And been netting with it twice a week for the last 5 weeks. 



Just read gms willow description. 80 says "may have some colour to one edge"

Doesn't technically fall foul of this description. It's just the colour to one edge is the normal wood on the rh inside edge.

Title: Re: My 2015 GM Octane F2 808 , Is there such thing as too much heartwood?
Post by: Marc28 on January 15, 2015, 07:55:14 AM

I too am a heartwood fan a few bats I've seen at owzat have heartwood not as much as the one in the picture,
A few f the aura bats I looked at had heartwood and they looked very very good

Title: Re: My 2015 GM Octane F2 808 , Is there such thing as too much heartwood?
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on January 15, 2015, 09:25:21 AM

I had an 808 octane that was virtually 100% heartwood so it's not uncommon.
Will see if I can find some pictures (or ask @Chad if he still has it!)

Title: Re: My 2015 GM Octane F2 808 , Is there such thing as too much heartwood?
Post by: Seniorplayer on January 15, 2015, 11:09:15 AM

Heartwood  or pinkish sapwood as we know is much harder than sapwood as it does not contain sap this is what makes it brittle it is taken from the centre of the tree where the wood is older and therefore naturally harder.
But correctly pressed  to improve toughness and then properly prepared prior to use the heartwood should absorb stress  the same as bats made from sapwood. Also heartwood can produce a different sound.                                                                   But bats with to much heartwood do not generally last as long as bats made from sapwood.

Title: Re: My 2015 GM Octane F2 808 , Is there such thing as too much heartwood?
Post by: i12breakfree on January 15, 2015, 11:15:13 AM

is this from PDC ?

Title: Re: My 2015 GM Octane F2 808 , Is there such thing as too much heartwood?
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on January 15, 2015, 11:43:43 AM

Here's the thread to the one I had, it's changed hands a few times!

http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=26166.msg409675#msg409675 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=26166.msg409675#msg409675)

Title: Re: My 2015 GM Octane F2 808 , Is there such thing as too much heartwood?
Post by: aussie.kooky on January 16, 2015, 12:40:16 AM

@i12breakfree ...I believe it is from lorimers. It was bought as a gift from a family member. I am looking forward to soon discussing getting a couple of GM bats from @Vitas Cricket . I have seen the quality of what they have and I think they look the place to go.

Title: Re: My 2015 GM Octane F2 808 , Is there such thing as too much heartwood?
Post by: Vitas Cricket on January 16, 2015, 01:20:31 AM

Quote from: GMtragic on January 16, 2015, 12:40:16 AM

@i12breakfree ...I believe it is from lorimers. It was bought as a gift from a family member. I am looking forward to soon discussing getting a couple of GM bats from @Vitas Cricket . I have seen the quality of what they have and I think they look the place to go.

Plenty of choice available mate :)

Most welcome to visit if you can make it, if not i am just a phone call or email away.

Title: Re: My 2015 GM Octane F2 808 , Is there such thing as too much heartwood?
Post by: sarg on January 21, 2015, 01:52:48 AM

I have a heartwood bat. Spent ages knocking it in properly. Sounds very intimidating when middled, much deeper sounding crack. Pings very well from stickers to toe. Looks great oiled properly too.

Title: Re: My 2015 GM Octane F2 808 , Is there such thing as too much heartwood?
Post by: aussie.kooky on February 02, 2015, 04:47:43 AM

I have spent about another four hours knocking this bat in only to find that this (see picture) happened in its first net on the mainly heartwood edge. I am not sure if this dent is repairable right on the toe.

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-hHYgimh5dN4/VM8BEQMhCxI/AAAAAAAAAC4/pDtWzW-JKRA/s512/IMG_20150130_203418.jpg)

Title: My 2015 GM Octane F2 808 , Is there such thing as too much heartwood?
Post by: sarg on February 02, 2015, 06:39:35 AM

I've done that to other bats. Toe not knocked in enough unfortunately. Looks like it's on the surface mainly and you have a scuff sheet on. Leave it alone I'd suggest or add some Fibre tape. If it is loose you can glue it. Check out the screaming cat updated maintenance video on YouTube. Otherwise take it in for repairs.


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Title: Re: My 2015 GM Octane F2 808 , Is there such thing as too much heartwood?
Post by: Seniorplayer on February 02, 2015, 01:33:28 PM

Agree Yes knock in the damaged area and  the toe and it will probably be okay  and if you wish apply fibre glass tape.
Or you could easily  vercitally sand  out  the damage and blend it in.
Heartwood tends to be more brittle due to lack of sap.