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Equipment => Bats => Bat Making => Topic started by: Hoover on January 20, 2015, 11:21:14 PM
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Hi . I am new to this world and this is my first post. My question to you all is whist I recognise there are many wonderful batmakers around the world, what gives someone the title of Master Craftsman or Master Batmaker. ? I am a batmaker but have never understood where the title comes from.
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Show us some of your bats!!
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http://s1298.photobucket.com/user/bradburycricket/media/imagejpg1_zps5188c33a.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1 (http://s1298.photobucket.com/user/bradburycricket/media/imagejpg1_zps5188c33a.jpg.html?sort=3&o=1)
(http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/ag60/bradburycricket/imagejpg1_zps5188c33a.jpg) (http://s1298.photobucket.com/user/bradburycricket/media/imagejpg1_zps5188c33a.jpg.html)
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Why don't you send me some samples and I will if you can get the title or not ;-)
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Do you make bats for Bradbury?
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Palmist.I don' understand what you mean. Yes I make for Bradbury
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Palmist.I don' understand what you mean. Yes I make for Bradbury
It was a joke mate!
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I was always under the impression that the Master Bat Maker was just the title for the senior maker at a company but may well be wrong
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Palmist. sorry mate, a bit slow today.
Thecord. I didn't know that, just curious as to how it is applied.
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I don't think there is any official certification for master craftsmen. Probably earned through experience and volume of bats produced. If you have learned all aspects of bat making and are good enough to train others, I think you call yourself a master bat maker. Unless you are associated witha big label or have an established brand of your own, I doubt the self certified title will mean much though.
SS factory in India is full of master craftsmen/batmaker, some who have been making bats for generations.
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Yeah, well that is a good explanation. Thanks for that .
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Yeah, well that is a good explanation. Thanks for that .
No problem, just an observation really.
Come to think of it, any big label is not really going to call their bat makers novice or apprentice are they!!!
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Laver sold off a bunch of bats made by their new apprentice, but they did so at a discounted rate I believe.
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Laver sold off a bunch of bats made by their new apprentice, but they did so at a discounted rate I believe.
Fair enough, that's very credible of them. Gives the youngsters a chance and saves money for joey public.
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([url]http://i1298.photobucket.com/albums/ag60/bradburycricket/imagejpg1_zps5188c33a.jpg[/url])
That's a lovely profile, lots of meat in the middle. Is it a new design from Bradbury?
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Accordign to Wiki...
A master craftsman or master tradesman (sometimes called only master or grandmaster, German: Meister) was a member of a guild. In the European guild system, only masters and journeymen were allowed to be members of the guild.
An aspiring master would have to pass through the career chain from apprentice to journeyman before he could be elected to become a master craftsman. He would then have to produce a sum of money and a masterpiece before he could actually join the guild. If the masterpiece was not accepted by the masters, he was not allowed to join the guild, possibly remaining a journeyman for the rest of his life.
Originally, holders of the academic degree of "Master of Arts" were also considered, in the Medieval universities, as master craftsmen in their own academic field.
The impression I get now is that a maker consistently crafts beautiful bats and the owner of the company gives you a new job title... Hoover, in this case, you may qualify!
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I worked for ACE Cricket Bats of Elland for nine years, whilst there Alf Evans (Owner and senior bat maker) was constantly requested to re-join 'The Guild of Master Craftsmen'. As far as I could work out it was just organisation/body that charged you a hefty fee to you there emblem for marketing purposes. Don't know if this is of any help or interest.
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Accordign to Wiki...
A master craftsman or master tradesman (sometimes called only master or grandmaster, German: Meister) was a member of a guild. In the European guild system, only masters and journeymen were allowed to be members of the guild.
An aspiring master would have to pass through the career chain from apprentice to journeyman before he could be elected to become a master craftsman. He would then have to produce a sum of money and a masterpiece before he could actually join the guild. If the masterpiece was not accepted by the masters, he was not allowed to join the guild, possibly remaining a journeyman for the rest of his life.
Originally, holders of the academic degree of "Master of Arts" were also considered, in the Medieval universities, as master craftsmen in their own academic field.
Yep that's the one, the proper use of 'Master Craftsman' in the traditional sense is pretty much defunct now.
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I worked for ACE Cricket Bats of Elland for nine years, whilst there Alf Evans (Owner and senior bat maker) was constantly requested to re-join 'The Guild of Master Craftsmen'. As far as I could work out it was just organisation/body that charged you a hefty fee to you there emblem for marketing purposes. Don't know if this is of any help or interest.
I have seen a couple of jedi bats in our team, belters both of them.
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I worked for ACE Cricket Bats of Elland for nine years, whilst there Alf Evans (Owner and senior bat maker) was constantly requested to re-join 'The Guild of Master Craftsmen'. As far as I could work out it was just organisation/body that charged you a hefty fee to you there emblem for marketing purposes. Don't know if this is of any help or interest.
The true master of custom bats was Alf had many a Lightweight off him top chap
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I worked for ACE Cricket Bats of Elland for nine years, whilst there Alf Evans (Owner and senior bat maker) was constantly requested to re-join 'The Guild of Master Craftsmen'. As far as I could work out it was just organisation/body that charged you a hefty fee to you there emblem for marketing purposes. Don't know if this is of any help or interest.
Ah Ace of Elland Road
I was given one of those for my log burner but it was too nice a stick not to resurect it!
(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb450/CPye061194/D1213289-BCEF-4FD0-8CF3-6B9D13E41B0E_zpspztlg5gs.jpg) (http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/CPye061194/media/D1213289-BCEF-4FD0-8CF3-6B9D13E41B0E_zpspztlg5gs.jpg.html)
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Ah Ace of Elland Road
I was given one of those for my log burner but it was too nice a stick not to resurect it!
([url]http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb450/CPye061194/D1213289-BCEF-4FD0-8CF3-6B9D13E41B0E_zpspztlg5gs.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/CPye061194/media/D1213289-BCEF-4FD0-8CF3-6B9D13E41B0E_zpspztlg5gs.jpg.html[/url])
I do not think that is one of Alf's perhaps the people who took over for a few years !!!!
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No idea of the origins of it other than it used to belong to one of our "overseas" players from up North haha.
Will dig it out and get some better pics now
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I have seen a couple of jedi bats in our team, belters both of them.
Their website suggested that they were 'sponsoring' Gary Ballance a little while back.
Bat manufacturing seems to be very much alive and well in that part of the world. It would be, I guess. :)
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Ah Ace of Elland Road
I was given one of those for my log burner but it was too nice a stick not to resurect it!
One of these turned up in Victoria Park (east London) nets last year.
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Accordign to Wiki...
A master craftsman or master tradesman (sometimes called only master or grandmaster, German: Meister) was a member of a guild. In the European guild system, only masters and journeymen were allowed to be members of the guild.
An aspiring master would have to pass through the career chain from apprentice to journeyman before he could be elected to become a master craftsman. He would then have to produce a sum of money and a masterpiece before he could actually join the guild. If the masterpiece was not accepted by the masters, he was not allowed to join the guild, possibly remaining a journeyman for the rest of his life.
Originally, holders of the academic degree of "Master of Arts" were also considered, in the Medieval universities, as master craftsmen in their own academic field.
The impression I get now is that a maker consistently crafts beautiful bats and the owner of the company gives you a new job title... Hoover, in this case, you may qualify!
Thanks Buzz, nice of you to say.
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I have seen a couple of jedi bats in our team, belters both of them.
Palmist, that's the way I saw it happen with another brand years ago. Thanks for your answers.
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Ah Ace of Elland Road
I was given one of those for my log burner but it was too nice a stick not to resurect it!
([url]http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/CPye061194/media/D1213289-BCEF-4FD0-8CF3-6B9D13E41B0E_zpspztlg5gs.jpg.html[/url])
where did you get the grip from cam?
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That's a lovely profile, lots of meat in the middle. Is it a new design from Bradbury?
Released last year in UK as the Locus Exception.