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General Cricket => Your Cricket => Topic started by: arsenal123 on February 03, 2015, 11:02:37 AM
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The taboo subject!
How big a part of your team bonding is the showers?!
My side has got a bit of rep now for bringing our wireless speakers for our music, having a big drink and sing in the shower. Always a good laugh, not at all stiff...!
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I think it's a massive part of the social side to any sports team. Always have the best banter in the cricket season though. Have to be quite rough skinned in ours though. Lots of widgey talk and urine activity. I'm sure it's the same for everyone. It takes some getting used to as a young lad playing senior cricket but after the initial shock (and awe) it's just a place for the comedians of the club to shine and we always spend a long time in there with some music blasting out
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We have a load of Rugby boys who play for our club, so I'll leave a lot of the antics to your imagination.
The mental image I have that I wish I didn't in the showers involved an individual on his back, legs behind his ears playing his own version of conkers. It still haunts my dreams...!
The dressing room as a whole is a great place to be - loads of banter, tunes, sharp humour - everything you expect from a group of lads who get on great. Sometimes more fun than the actual cricket!
Just got to get one guy to stop putting his George Ezra CD on a loop...
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Its a bit mixed these days, 10 years ago it was a big thing and quite salty at times but we've had a move to a younger player base and some of them don't shower so it's lost it's edge. Like the idea of the speakers though, might get something sorted!
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We have a load of Rugby boys who play for our club, so I'll leave a lot of the antics to your imagination.
Homosexuality?
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Homosexuality?
As long as there's no eye contact, no kissing and you only use the tip, shower time antics aren't gay!
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At my previous club it was quite common for a couple of us to pull up a plastic chair and sit in the showers for ages chatting and ripping the piss out of each other for whatever reason, basically the normal stuff always had speakers bleating music from our changing room and general lad like behaviour. One of the reasons I play sport of the banter of a dressing room win or lose the banter never stops.
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1st rule of the jungle... If you get it hard you're getting it.
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Homosexuality?
Nope, it just seems that egg chasers are very fond of their moving parts. It's almost like that young boy's age of discovery never really leaves them...
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Please dont let the ECB see this thread
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1st rule of the jungle... If you get it hard you're getting it.
Pardon?
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I've just realised what a bloody awful season I had last year. ;)
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Please dont let the ECB see this thread
They'll bring some 'pathway' out for it I'm sure.. and have some coaching :)
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Its quite common to see our players doing handstands in the showers!
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Its quite common to see our players doing handstands in the showers!
Last season it was quite uncommon to see any of my team-mates have a shower.
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Most of the time last season I was in the showers alone :-(
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Most of the time last season I was in the showers alone :-(
Enjoyable cricket?
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to make it worse all the food was gone by the time i get to the pub :(
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Never trust a man that doesn't shower after sport.
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Never trust a man that doesn't shower after sport.
Never sit next to a man that doesn't shower after sport and certainly don't take them home after the game in your car.
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Never sit next to a man that doesn't shower after sport and certainly don't take them home after the game in your car.
With all that kit, I doubt you've got room to give anyone a lift home.
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Never trust a man that doesn't shower after sport.
This should be printed on every fixture card in the country.
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To be honest, as a 'youngster', I find the showers to be a jarring experience, to the extent that I don't shower at the club.
I just don't get it, at all. It seems infantile and very odd; the fact that as a 13-14 year old playing adult cricket that there were 50-60 year olds wandering around naked doesn't seem especially appropriate to be honest.
Maybe I just don't appreciate banter. ;)
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Interesting comments from people although I agree with comments re the ECB!
The rules now are so tight regarding youth players, did you know that U18 should now have their own changing rooms and that if minors do go into the changing rooms everybody should hand their phones into a designated child welfare officer.
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With all that kit, I doubt you've got room to give anyone a lift home.
You should see the size of my car.
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You should see the size of my car.
With the amount of kit you buy Chris you should be driving an 18 wheeler 😉
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You should see the size of my car.
It was inevitable that size would come up. What with it being a showers thread...
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Interesting comments from people although I agree with comments re the ECB!
The rules now are so tight regarding youth players, did you know that U18 should now have their own changing rooms and that if minors do go into the changing rooms everybody should hand their phones into a designated child welfare officer.
Most clubs in my area actually encourage the youngsters to turn up already in their whites
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Interesting comments from people although I agree with comments re the ECB!
The rules now are so tight regarding youth players, did you know that U18 should now have their own changing rooms and that if minors do go into the changing rooms everybody should hand their phones into a designated child welfare officer.
Is this true?
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We now have signs around our changing rooms at most clubs in the league saying 'no mobile phones in changing rooms'. In addition youngsters are meant to have an opportunity to get changed and out before men go in but I don't think this is adhered to at many places. We have the additional matter of women playing in our mens side which as you can imagine complicates things even further!
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Just had a quick look on the ECB website and your not even meant to text/email anyone under 18 unless you copy in their parents!
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To be honest, as a 'youngster', I find the showers to be a jarring experience, to the extent that I don't shower at the club.
I just don't get it, at all. It seems infantile and very odd; the fact that as a 13-14 year old playing adult cricket that there were 50-60 year olds wandering around naked doesn't seem especially appropriate to be honest.
Maybe I just don't appreciate banter. ;)
Good post. I don't blame youngsters for not showering.
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Good post. I don't blame youngsters for not showering.
Never understood why you wouldn't shower, even as a youngster. You get all hot and sweaty playing cricket ,so it makes sense to have a shower at the ground as soon as possible. Saves on the water bill at home and a well timed shower is great for cover duty avoidance after the game ;)
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No, I can completely understand it. I didn't like it at my old club where I was one of the more shy quiet youngsters in an older team. Seemed fairly intimidatory to a young quiet kid, and when a point is made that you don't shower, makes you avoid it more, not less.
Then I moved club and prefer the people there, I didn't move there until 18 and it was just part of the routine now. Arguably at times more of a laugh than the cricket if you've had a particularly naff day!
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Never understood why you wouldn't shower, even as a youngster. You get all hot and sweaty playing cricket ,so it makes sense to have a shower at the
ground as soon as possible. Saves on the water bill at home and a well timed shower is great for cover duty avoidance after the game ;)
That has generally been what I've been saying, but I felt the youngster made a valid point.
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I'm also a youngster at 16 but I've been playing in mens teams for around 4 years or so. I guess you just get used to it in the dressing rooms, at first it was very awkward but you get used to it pretty quickly. There's a group of us all about 15, 16 and 17 who have all grown up playing together we now all shower together in a separate set of showers then most of the older lads on the team where we chat about birds or just take mick out of each other its just a different kind of banter to what the older lads take part in. Anyway moral of the story is its just something you get used to its part of the culture of the game and it changes as you get older.
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Please Please Please could you all check the ECB guidance on young people changing rooms mobile phones ect. If I was part of any county development team reading this thread i would be having absolute kittens. And bear in mind that anyone reading this with a knowledge of what club you play for has an obligation under safeguarding provisions to inform ECB of any malpractice. Sorry if this sounds harsh but I am the CWO at our club and understand how seriously this is taken.
http://www.ecb.co.uk/ecb/safeguarding-and-protecting-children/ (http://www.ecb.co.uk/ecb/safeguarding-and-protecting-children/)
All ECB affiliated cricket clubs must have
a Changing Policy. This will depend upon
facilities available, access to those facilities
and the number of children involved. The
following provides a framework of best
practice and guidance for a Changing Policy
to be developed within the club. These
guidelines apply to adults, and children,
sharing changing facilities. Clubs should
identify, and develop, the framework that
best suits their changing arrangements,
taking into account the number of children
involved.
Best practice principles to be adopted by
clubs, wherever possible, are as follows:
• Adults must not change, or shower, at
the same time using the same facility as
children
• Adults should try to change at separate
times to children during matches, for
example when children are padding up
• If adults and children need to share a
changing facility, the club must have
consent from parents that their child(ren)
can share a changing room with adults in
the club
• If children play for Open Age teams, they,
and their parents, must be informed of the
club’s policy on changing arrangements
• Mixed gender teams must have access
to separate male and female changing
rooms
• Mobile phones must not be used in
changing rooms
If children are uncomfortable changing or
showering at the club, no pressure should be
placed on them to do so. Suggest instead
that they may change and shower at home.
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Please Please Please could you all check the ECB guidance on young people changing rooms mobile phones ect. If I was part of any county development team reading this thread i would be having absolute kittens. And bear in mind that anyone reading this with a knowledge of what club you play for has an obligation under safeguarding provisions to inform ECB of any malpractice. Sorry if this sounds harsh but I am the CWO at our club and understand how seriously this is taken.
[url]http://www.ecb.co.uk/ecb/safeguarding-and-protecting-children/[/url] ([url]http://www.ecb.co.uk/ecb/safeguarding-and-protecting-children/[/url])
All ECB affiliated cricket clubs must have
a Changing Policy. This will depend upon
facilities available, access to those facilities
and the number of children involved. The
following provides a framework of best
practice and guidance for a Changing Policy
to be developed within the club. These
guidelines apply to adults, and children,
sharing changing facilities. Clubs should
identify, and develop, the framework that
best suits their changing arrangements,
taking into account the number of children
involved.
Best practice principles to be adopted by
clubs, wherever possible, are as follows:
• Adults must not change, or shower, at
the same time using the same facility as
children
• Adults should try to change at separate
times to children during matches, for
example when children are padding up
• If adults and children need to share a
changing facility, the club must have
consent from parents that their child(ren)
can share a changing room with adults in
the club
• If children play for Open Age teams, they,
and their parents, must be informed of the
club’s policy on changing arrangements
• Mixed gender teams must have access
to separate male and female changing
rooms
• Mobile phones must not be used in
changing rooms
If children are uncomfortable changing or
showering at the club, no pressure should be
placed on them to do so. Suggest instead
that they may change and shower at home.
Given how few weirdos there are around it's no wonder amateur sport is dying given such ruling. Might as well call everyone a peido tbh. Talk about getting things blown out of proportion. Hand in your phones, don't change x or y, ask permission.. Jesus. Sack kids teams off if it weren't for the sheer volume of cash they generate
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I know. And the cost of the courses we have to go on is shocking when you add it up. However in these litigious days you have to cover your back. In the last 10 years there have been at least 3 middlesex junior coaches who have been prosecuted for abuse. One of whom took his own life. I know this is just meant to be a humorous exchange but you cant be too careful. We insist on all the provisions above. at first it seems an imposition but once you get used to it, it works Ok.
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There's a lot of leeway and common sense if you read it carefully. "Mobile phones should not be used" doesn't mean you have to hand them in. Just leave them in your bag. All the parental permissions can be in there signing on document when they join the club, done once and its sorted. Same document can include something like "please read all the policies on our web site and sign here that you have"
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By not using your phone, you can imagine you're a pro who isn't allowed to by betting regulations!
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By not using your phone, you can imagine you're a pro who isn't allowed to by betting regulations!
But the tin shed changing rooms and horses grazing on the square shatter the illusion
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But the tin shed changing rooms and horses grazing on the square shatter the illusion
and getting out for 2 by some older bowler bowling 45mph just line and length and getting bored
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i remember when the seniors in my team used to hit me on the head with their (No Swearing Please)'
i made sure I got some runs after being subject to the "helicopter"!
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By not using your phone, you can imagine you're a pro who isn't allowed to by betting regulations!
Only applies to international cricket... common misconception. County Pros can spend all day on the phone if they wish.
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Re; litigious societies - When I coached football in the States a 14 year old went down with ruptured ankle ligaments in a tournament in a great deal of pain (anyone who's done it will know!). The tournament doctor went to treat him and the boy's dad stopped him and called his family doctor, who arrived 30 minutes later and treated the boy. The dad was saying he'd sue the on-site doc if he touched his boy, who was crying in absolute agony. The UK's gone the same way, for whatever reason.
Blame who you like for that - most likely legislative change that allowed solicitors to tout and barter for business (hence the TV, media ads, etc.). The point is, just because it's not the same as when we kids, doesn't mean that isn't for the better. I work with a guy who's a respected national court witness in his professional field - namely risk assessment for schools and sports clubs. His favourite phrase at conferences when he keynotes is "your explanation doesn't sound any more convincing with 'Your Honour' after it." Some of the stories he's told me around neglect of safety and responsibility, mainly because of the 'we do what we've always done' attitude, are shocking and have led to criminal convictions. Camera phones, social media and bygone attitudes can be a very dangerous combination.
These safeguarding policies came about for a reason - it's not all conspiracy. Do we feel the same about changes and improvements to first aid? They've improved hand in hand with child protection policies and I don't see many people calling for the return of the magic sponge...
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Re; litigious societies - When I coached football in the States a 14 year old went down with ruptured ankle ligaments in a tournament in a great deal of pain (anyone who's done it will know!). The tournament doctor went to treat him and the boy's dad stopped him and called his family doctor, who arrived 30 minutes later and treated the boy. The dad was saying he'd sue the on-site doc if he touched his boy, who was crying in absolute agony. .
I would have treated the boy regardless of the dad. if you have signed up to a tournment with a designated and qualified Dr it doesnt matter what the dad says. If he takes it to court good luck to him. Its the tournament organisers care and responsibility to ensure safety and well being of the players. The Dr has a duty of care to that player.
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It's harsh but it's just not worth helping anyone anymore, too many people looking for a quick buck. I honestly believe it's not little to do with protecting people, more just covering people from being sued. Very very wrong but it's the world we live in
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I would have treated the boy regardless of the dad. if you have signed up to a tournment with a designated and qualified Dr it doesnt matter what the dad says. If he takes it to court good luck to him. Its the tournament organisers care and responsibility to ensure safety and well being of the players. The Dr has a duty of care to that player.
More worryingly what kind of parent would leave their child in pain when a perfectly qualified professional was on hand to help immediately?
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Last season at one home game we decided to get a kwik cricket set and play cricket in the showers after the game haha (we have quite a big shower area and the changing room is open so we had the batsmen and slips in the shower and bowlers and other fielders in the changing room areas.