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Equipment => Helmets => Topic started by: csnew on February 11, 2015, 03:10:24 PM
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http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/31421607 (http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/31421607)
Not very high tech by the looks of it, but hopefully does the job
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Was just gonna post this. It's uGly, mu blend in better when colour coded!
The other thing that intrigued me was footage of the double bar grill vs cannon, as have not seen its footage/result before.
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seems a pretty sensible approach
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Was also just about to post this. Seems like a good idea!
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Be interested to see the old helmet tested with it's grill setting at it's narrowest as the ball goes straight through on the widest. Possibly for the shock factor.
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Very nice!
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Big question is whether we will see this as a fixed part of the helmet anytime soon?
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It looks like a good solution, extra protection without restricting / compromising movement
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Seems like a reaction product rushed out quickly
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Unless it becomes permanently attached when you buy surely it won't catch on in club cricket
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Unless it becomes permanently attached when you buy surely it won't catch on in club cricket
I'm sure that people would find a way to remove them if they wanted to! ;)
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(http://www.espncricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/208000/208043.jpg)
Sanga and Mathews both wearing them today, Sanga's one in particular looked a bit crap but clearly the two of them like it enough.
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I'd wear one if it came pre-attached and if it came in the box I'd probably put it on just to be safe. However if it is an extra to be attained at extra cost I wouldn't bother.
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Wonder if it would fit an albion haha
Either that or wait for the Gorget to become available
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Off topic slightly but anyone know why sangakarra has the two front vent holes covered up?
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Off topic slightly but anyone know why sangakarra has the two front vent holes covered up?
Something to do with the size of the embroidered logo being bigger than the gap between the vents, and not cutting into the embroidery I'd imagine, but just a guess.
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Pretty sure other SL players had it though. Looked like it had been re-clothed over the holes from what I saw
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It's an option on the helmets iirc
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I'm glad to see this. Masuri where criticised immediately after the Phil Hughes incident for towing the line of 'Our helmets meet the safety requirements but we cant guarantee 100% protection from injury, blah, blah'
This shows that they have genuinly reacted to a tragic incident, accepted the stem of the neck is a vulnerable area for cricketers and looked for a solution.
I'll be investing as soon as they are available.
On a side note why is there a bravado about wearing/not wearing helmets and why is there so much disagreement about improving helmets for added safety.
If people want to prove their toughness go out to bat without a thigh guard or something... Why are people happy to protect other less vulnerable areas and reluctant to protect their heads!!!!!!! Madness.
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I'm glad to see this. Masuri where criticised immediately after the Phil Hughes incident for towing the line of 'Our helmets meet the safety requirements but we cant guarantee 100% protection from injury, blah, blah'
This shows that they have genuinly reacted to a tragic incident, accepted the stem of the neck is a vulnerable area for cricketers and looked for a solution.
I'll be investing as soon as they are available.
On a side note why is there a bravado about wearing/not wearing helmets and why is there so much disagreement about improving helmets for added safety.
If people want to prove their toughness go out to bat without a thigh guard or something... Why are people happy to protect other less vulnerable areas and reluctant to protect their heads!!!!!!! Madness.
I could not agree more with you regarding why some choose not to wear a helmet?. Why take the chance, you do not have to face express pace to be in danger, you can get equally injured from a slow plodder by top edging into your head, seen it happen on more than one occasion. The only guys that seem not to wear helmets in my team always are Asian players?? especially Indians.
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Not many players at my club wear helmets. Most of them at a bit older age have never worn one and won't now which is understandable.
The other half have grown up wearing helmets and are the opposite way round
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Few people I play with say no one at our level is remotely quick enough to wear a lid against. Whilst true it's not just that which comes into the equation for me. Dodgy pitches are dangerous at my low level so as mentioned above would always wear a lid, why take the risk?
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Also interesting to hear from our Aussie members how this has been received?
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Few people I play with say no one at our level is remotely quick enough to wear a kid against. Whilst true it's not just that which comes into the equation for me. Dodgy pitches are dangerous at my low level so as mentioned above would always wear a lid, why take the risk?
No kids, what about wearing a hemet though? ;)
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fat fingers on phone and not proof reading before I post there, what a muppet!
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And while we're on the subject of wearing a lid, there seems to be two distinct groups in my club, with a third category that I hate seeing people fall into.
1) The I've never worn a helmet so why should I start now brigade. I've never seen our 2nd XI skipper wear a lid, and that has been against some bowlers with serious wheel!
2) The I've always worn a helmet so will continue to do so brigade. I grew up having to wear a lid, as did the majority of players I play with on a regular basis. Batting without a helmet feels foreign to me, something they agree with me on.
3) The I wish I'd been wearing a helmet brigade. Top edges into teeth, bouncers they watch onto their nose, you get the idea. They wear a helmet now, but always wish they'd taken up wearing one sooner.
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I will throw another question out there that has always interested me - at what point is it ok to (or do you) take your helmet off?
I ask this because I have a scar on my chin from the only time I have been hit when I top edged a sweep off a spinner - I had been wearing my lid and was on 40 odd spinners were on so I took it off.
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I will throw another question out there that has always interested me - at what point is it ok to (or do you) take your helmet off?
I ask this because I have a scar on my chin from the only time I have been hit when I top edged a sweep off a spinner - I had been wearing my lid and was on 40 odd spinners were on so I took it off.
Either to stop for a drinks break or when I've finished batting.
For the exact reason you've posted I won't risk it any more. When I'd just turned 18 I went through a phase of not wearing a helmet (just the novelty of not having to) and never felt 100% confident at the crease, to the extent I wouldn't play the step which is one of my favourite shots.
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I think the safer the game can be, the better & I've seen more head injuries from rubbish shots than quick bowling, but... Am I the only one thinking that you shouldn't turn away from the ball. If you keep your eye on it you stand less chance of being hit on the side or back of your head.
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Bravado? Nah. Plenty of people don't wear cycling helmets (although whole different can of worms) - some people just don't like wearing a lid. I've played with/against plenty young enough that they grew up having to wear one and still prefer batting without. What's an acceptable risk is different for different people, no point getting righteous about it when it's not your head that's affected.
As for taking it on/off, either wear one or don't? This was definitely reinforced at one point when an opposition opener took his off after 2 overs on the bounciest track I've ever played on... He wasn't that amused when I broke his glasses next ball!
For me, 99% of the time if you're batting properly at club level (i.e. no blind panic turning away from the ball), the only way you're gonna get hit in the head is if you hit it into your own head. Have happily faced properly quick bowlers without a helmet, on other days have felt the need to put one on. I never used to wear one until I smashed a top edge off a beamer into my eyebrow a few seasons back (results below!). Still trying to get myself happy wearing a lid but remain convinced I bat better without one.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/432328540638281728/pex4pmao_400x400.jpeg)
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Also interesting to hear from our Aussie members how this has been received?
Much the same as UK. Most that I have spoken to agree that the greatest risk is in the nets and top edging at anytime (nets or match). Most under 30 have been brought up with helmets, parents expect them, everyone agrees that technique's what is meant to protect you, but that PH tragedy reminded us that accidents can happen to the best of us. Just as helmets are the norm for youngsters now, so additional protection if supplied as standard will become the norm for the next gen. Grown men their own decisions. I watched a new guy from the subcontinent in nets without a helmet try and sweep a full length ball with his eyes closed, only for it fly over his left shoulder. He smiled and carried on.
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I imagine he doesn't wear a box either, or indeed that one has been conceived large enough to encapsulate those cahonas. :o
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Bravado? Nah. Plenty of people don't wear cycling helmets (although whole different can of worms) - some people just don't like wearing a lid. I've played with/against plenty young enough that they grew up having to wear one and still prefer batting without. What's an acceptable risk is different for different people, no point getting righteous about it when it's not your head that's affected.
Hmmm, I'm not getting righteous about it... I'll give you an example. A couple of seasons ago my brother who is a much better player than I am insisted on not wearing a helmet. He was 100% confident he could deal with the bowling our league had to offer. I didn't like watching him go out to bat without a helmet. It wasn't my head but it was my worry that sooner or later he was going to wear one. Every game and every net session I kept on saying to him "Where is your helmet, why do you think you don't need to wear one, even the best players can get hit why does that not apply to you?" I walked into our club one day and his eye was a mess, red, swollen, bloodshot, scarred. One popped off a good length he explained to me... Luckily, he said for whatever reason I decided to wear my helmet today so it could have been an awful lot worse.
I know it's not my head and it's each individuals choice but if one of my team mates gets hurt it's not nice is it. Yes I could say, well it was their choice but it's still not a nice thing to happen. Like if somebody gets hurt in a car accident when not wearing a seatbelt again it's their choice but the outcome is still grim.
Another angle on this... I hate bowling at people with no helmet, again not my head, but for me to deal with if an accident happens and they get injured off my bowling... If you want a game of high octane cricket go and bat with no pads on, yes you'll come away with some bruises but it might improve your footwork!!!!
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Another angle on this... I hate bowling at people with no helmet, again not my head, but for me to deal with if an accident happens and they get injured off my bowling... If you want a game of high octane cricket go and bat with no pads on, yes you'll come away with some bruises but it might improve your footwork!!!!
Yep that is also a good discussion point about it - last season we played the side bottom of the league at their place on a ropey (but quick) pitch to say the least (we batted 1st so i saw 1st hand opening the batting what it was like).
Then one of their openers came strolling out with no lid on - i felt that as captain it was my duty to tell the umpire that he should recommend the batsman go and put a lid on. The Umpire did so and the guy said he never where's a lid and will be fine. In the 2nd over he got hit in the shoulder and then called for a helmet!!
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It's good that you took it upon yourself to say something. I suppose you did all you could in that situation.
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Yeah, I refuse to bowl at lower team batsmen in winter nets without a lid on. I spray it around a touch as a keeper who occasionally bowls.
At uni nets I bowled a back of a length ball to our best batsman who decided to bat with no lid on due to the average bowlers in the net. Suffice to say, he top edged a ball into his eyebrow with claret everywhere!
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I wear a helmet on my motorbike, not because it is the law, but because it is the responsible a sensible thing to do. I wear full leathers, amoured boots etc in all weathers it is not law to do so, but it is the responsible and sensible thing to do. When I see people that ride bikes without such protection i really wonder why they think it will not happen to them. I use the very same philosophy when playing cricket, I wear a helmet because i do not wish to spoil my afternoon and a possible visit to the hospital or dentist or worse the graveyard, I wear an arm guard not that i have ever been hit on the forearm, but I am not an "after the horse has bolted" kind of guy.