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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: nottinghamtiger on February 26, 2015, 07:54:16 AM

Title: Buying a "new" old bat
Post by: nottinghamtiger on February 26, 2015, 07:54:16 AM
Are there any issues with buying an old bat that is unused? 
Tempted with a bat that was purchased in 2006 but has never been used,  but wondered if there would be any adverse effects on the bat having being stored for almost 10 years?
Title: Re: Buying a "new" old bat
Post by: tim2000s on February 26, 2015, 08:26:09 AM
Are there any issues with buying an old bat that is unused? 
Tempted with a bat that was purchased in 2006 but has never been used,  but wondered if there would be any adverse effects on the bat having being stored for almost 10 years?
It may well have moisture content issues, but generally, as long as it has been stored somewhere sensible and not subjected to too much temperature variation, I wouldn't expect there to be huge issues.

Looking at that eBay Maxi?
Title: Re: Buying a "new" old bat
Post by: nottinghamtiger on February 26, 2015, 08:47:42 AM
  Looking at that eBay Maxi?

Yes, saw it last night but am very reluctant to buy a bat without handling it first. 
Bit of an odd one on price too. 
Unused?  Yes. 
New?  Well it's nearly 10 years old!
And you have to wonder - why would anyone have that bat and not use it at all? 
I could get a brand new 2014 Purist Original LE for under £300 now, why take the risk of a 10 year old bat for not much les cash?
Title: Re: Buying a "new" old bat
Post by: ppccopener on February 26, 2015, 09:12:03 AM
without knowing where it was stored it doesn't look like a good buy at all. bats do dry out and a coat of oil wont always work
if your spending that sort of money the world is your oyster
plenty of better deals about for that sort of cash.
a couple of the guys at my club have GM'S0-the new shapes, and I have to say-quite impressed.....
Title: Re: Buying a "new" old bat
Post by: nottinghamtiger on February 26, 2015, 09:20:23 AM
without knowing where it was stored it doesn't look like a good buy at all. bats do dry out and a coat of oil wont always work
if your spending that sort of money the world is your oyster
plenty of better deals about for that sort of cash.
a couple of the guys at my club have GM'S0-the new shapes, and I have to say-quite impressed.....

That's more or less the conclusion I have come to.  Probably not worth the risk though it might have been stored well and be a fantastic bat.  It certainly looks it!
If it was in the £100-£150 bracket then I'd take the chance, but there are many safer and equally good quality bats in the £200-£250 range!
Title: Re: Buying a "new" old bat
Post by: FvanN on February 26, 2015, 09:32:01 AM
I tend not to buy bats that are older than 3 years. Why 3 years? I don't know just a number im happy with. For the money you could get a blinding new bat which was made this month :)
Title: Re: Buying a "new" old bat
Post by: Boondougal on February 26, 2015, 09:48:24 AM
Interesting conversation. When would a bat maker deem a cleft to be too old? Obviously they probably store the better but could it just be that it's been sat on the shelf too long?
Title: Re: Buying a "new" old bat
Post by: Seniorplayer on February 26, 2015, 10:26:13 AM
I think the key to its condition is how it as been stored. As  the issue as stated could be loss of moisture and if it is to dry the fibres could disintegrate when used.
But if it has been stored in a garage or similar it could be okay following a coats of  raw linseed.
Title: Re: Buying a "new" old bat
Post by: nottinghamtiger on February 26, 2015, 01:24:10 PM
With the price increases over the last 10 years, I'm wondering how much this would have been when bought in 2006?  Would it likely to have been £200+?
Title: Re: Buying a "new" old bat
Post by: Vitas Cricket on February 26, 2015, 01:37:51 PM
The one thing i have read is the suggestion that with a bat so old, some of the pressing process will start to reverse. So even if it was in a great condition otherwise, it would need an awful lot of knocking in.

Why not have a bat made in front of you from G1 willow for £165? :)

http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=33548.0 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=33548.0)
Title: Re: Buying a "new" old bat
Post by: nottinghamtiger on February 26, 2015, 01:42:10 PM
The one thing i have read is the suggestion that with a bat so old, some of the pressing process will start to reverse. So even if it was in a great condition otherwise, it would need an awful lot of knocking in.

Why not have a bat made in front of you from G1 willow for £165? :)

[url]http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=33548.0[/url] ([url]http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=33548.0[/url])


I might well when I have recovered from injury!  I only really scour Ebay for real bargains, but this just took my eye as something a bit different (and with nice grains!).
I live about 10 mins walk from the GM factory so could well get the bat re-pressed in needed!
It's still too expensive though!
Title: Re: Buying a "new" old bat
Post by: kal_m on February 28, 2015, 01:59:04 AM
I might well when I have recovered from injury!  I only really scour Ebay for real bargains, but this just took my eye as something a bit different (and with nice grains!).
I live about 10 mins walk from the GM factory so could well get the bat re-pressed in needed!
It's still too expensive though!

Wait until you are eligible to view the For Sale section and you will be amazed to see how many top quality bats you can buy with £300...!!
Title: Re: Buying a "new" old bat
Post by: nottinghamtiger on February 28, 2015, 08:57:13 AM
Wait until you are eligible to view the For Sale section and you will be amazed to see how many top quality bats you can buy with £300...!!

Long way to 150 posts for me!
As much as I understand the reasons for 'minimum posts' before trading, I do think it's a lot!  I (and I am sure many others) join the forum at the point of looking for a new bat.  Maybe it would be best to have a "minimum posts" before selling but less before buying - the problem is usually scammers who are selling at not buyers!
The bat that started the thread looks like it's sold now - I almost bought it and took the chance but glad I didn't in the cold light of day!
Title: Re: Buying a "new" old bat
Post by: tim2000s on February 28, 2015, 10:46:37 AM
Long way to 150 posts for me!
As much as I understand the reasons for 'minimum posts' before trading, I do think it's a lot!  I (and I am sure many others) join the forum at the point of looking for a new bat.  Maybe it would be best to have a "minimum posts" before selling but less before buying - the problem is usually scammers who are selling at not buyers!
The bat that started the thread looks like it's sold now - I almost bought it and took the chance but glad I didn't in the cold light of day!
Unfortunately that isn't the case. One of the worst issues we had was related to a buyer. As a result it applies to both.
Title: Re: Buying a "new" old bat
Post by: nottinghamtiger on March 01, 2015, 02:36:00 PM
Unfortunately that isn't the case. One of the worst issues we had was related to a buyer. As a result it applies to both.

Fair enough.
The 10-year old Maxi OLE sold for full asking price (£210) in the end.  I nearly went for it as my gut just said "do it" (and maybe would have done) but then Gingerbusiness' Red Ink X* came up for sale!
Title: Re: Buying a "new" old bat
Post by: awp on March 03, 2015, 08:41:08 PM
I work with a former aust test player who played in the late 80's.  Like many aust test players of that era, He still has a pile of bats that Julian Millichamp made for him.  He gives themcto his teenage son to use and they still go like rockets.
Title: Re: Buying a "new" old bat
Post by: Chalkie on March 04, 2015, 08:55:10 AM
Wait until you are eligible to view the For Sale section and you will be amazed to see how many top quality bats you can buy with £300...!!

Looking forward to getting to the magic 150 posts - may take a while - but £300 for a bat is a bit high for me, do many bats come up around the £100-150 mark?
Title: Re: Buying a "new" old bat
Post by: KIPPERS on March 04, 2015, 09:02:29 AM
Most are round that price. Not £300
Title: Re: Buying a "new" old bat
Post by: nottinghamtiger on March 04, 2015, 09:07:58 AM
I wasn't really looking to pay £300.
I didn't buy the GM at £220 because I thought it was probably too expensive, I would have paid up to maybe £150 but someone decided to pay full price for it and they might well have got great value for money as it looked like a very high quality LE (just 10 years old).
My budget was about £150 - I pushed it a bit to get a bat I really like the look of!
Title: Re: Buying a "new" old bat
Post by: nottinghamtiger on March 07, 2015, 11:26:47 PM
Original bat back for sale, different seller but same photographs.
What's going on?