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Title: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: i12breakfree on March 01, 2015, 01:44:32 PM: Some of the duckbill profile bats at the world cup

Sangakkara

(http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t518/i12breakfree/CricDeals-stock/pro-bat/Sanga2_zpsfsvpytnu.jpg) (http://s1063.photobucket.com/user/i12breakfree/media/CricDeals-stock/pro-bat/Sanga2_zpsfsvpytnu.jpg.html)

(http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t518/i12breakfree/CricDeals-stock/pro-bat/SangaBat_zpsnbs650of.jpg) (http://s1063.photobucket.com/user/i12breakfree/media/CricDeals-stock/pro-bat/SangaBat_zpsnbs650of.jpg.html)

Clarke

(http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t518/i12breakfree/CricDeals-stock/pro-bat/Mclarke_zpstwymolgq.jpg) (http://s1063.photobucket.com/user/i12breakfree/media/CricDeals-stock/pro-bat/Mclarke_zpstwymolgq.jpg.html)

Kohli

(http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t518/i12breakfree/CricDeals-stock/pro-bat/kohli_zps1rjlien8.jpg) (http://s1063.photobucket.com/user/i12breakfree/media/CricDeals-stock/pro-bat/kohli_zps1rjlien8.jpg.html)

Shenwari

(http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t518/i12breakfree/CricDeals-stock/pro-bat/ShenwariBat_zpse9unp4cr.jpg) (http://s1063.photobucket.com/user/i12breakfree/media/CricDeals-stock/pro-bat/ShenwariBat_zpse9unp4cr.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on March 01, 2015, 01:46:43 PM: Roooooot

(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb450/CPye061194/6F346A38-A1CB-4686-81DD-94F226940A4D_zps38hfix3j.jpg) (http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/CPye061194/media/6F346A38-A1CB-4686-81DD-94F226940A4D_zps38hfix3j.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: liscon12 on March 01, 2015, 01:53:53 PM: Duck Bills are the fashion this year, I doubt many players actually care about the shape but rather it just pings all over the bat, I know Ben Stokes said he doesn't matter where and what type of bat he uses just as long as its got a massive ping.
Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on March 01, 2015, 02:04:35 PM: Looks like Titch is using a duckbill too

(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb450/CPye061194/_81318338_joe_root_ap2_zpsok80skbo.jpg) (http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/CPye061194/media/_81318338_joe_root_ap2_zpsok80skbo.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: procricket on March 01, 2015, 02:44:56 PM: It not something new it been around for over a year keep up with the times.

Stokes please tell me more mate what did he say ??
Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on March 01, 2015, 02:48:57 PM: Quote from: procricket B3 on March 01, 2015, 02:44:56 PM
It not something new it been around for over a year keep up with the times.

Stokes please tell me more mate what did he say ??

Over a year? I've got a lovely duckbill chase I bought in 2011! ;)
Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: procricket on March 01, 2015, 02:51:07 PM: Hell you must be the most informed man in cricket pal respect to you Cam.
Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: procricket on March 01, 2015, 02:52:19 PM: In truth they have always been there but the new flat toe modern duck I would say around a year to 18 months it has been popular.

Kranzbhuler was the starter of this version but there are many different versions
Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: liscon12 on March 01, 2015, 02:56:03 PM: Quote from: procricket B3 on March 01, 2015, 02:44:56 PM
It not something new it been around for over a year keep up with the times.

Stokes please tell me more mate what did he say ??

I knew they've been around for some time but everyone's just talking about them nowadays, obviously being a bat maker yourselves you'll know stacks more knowledge than little old me haha. I'm also guessing you know more about Ben Stokes than you're letting on, care to tell what he really wants in a bat?

No harsh feelings? :-[
Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: procricket on March 01, 2015, 02:59:37 PM: Ehh ???

Never been called a bat maker pal harsh feelings about what mate.

Nope was interested in what stokes wants as in a bat pal that's all.

They always been around have ducks just not the flat bottomed flat toe ones.

For instance look at Steve Smith his is different to all others.

Sorry if you thought I was being a bugger I wasn't mate
Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: liscon12 on March 01, 2015, 03:04:12 PM: Haha sorry @procricket B3 just a little forum misunderstanding.

I just remeber he done a TV piece about bats and remember he loves a bat that pings and shape doesn't matter as much. :)
Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: procricket on March 01, 2015, 03:06:43 PM: No bother pal just come back from a weekend away from cricket just watched England wow can it get worst!!!!

All the players need duckbills love sangakkara
Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: liscon12 on March 01, 2015, 03:10:07 PM: Quote from: procricket B3 on March 01, 2015, 03:06:43 PM
No bother pal just come back from a weekend away from cricket just watched England wow can it get worst!!!!

All the players need duckbills love sangakkara

I know, we get that all important 300 then we're unable to defend it, coming into this World Cup I thought the bowling would be the better of the two but clearly not however I feel our comments are best placed in another thread, I dont want to ruin the original post with tales of woe from our Nations team haha
Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on March 01, 2015, 03:17:05 PM: Quote from: procricket B3 on March 01, 2015, 02:51:07 PM
Hell you must be the most informed man in cricket pal respect to you Cam.

Haha I'll be honest I bought it on the size of the sweetspot rather than the shape.

Story time!

I'd always fancied a chase 175 so saved a months worth of wages from my part time job and went off to Dummer.

They had 2 bats in stock that took my eye, a 175 finback (big edges, high spine and the concaving made a fin on the back) or a 175 Beluga (traditional shape for English pitches)

I took a mallet and unscientific ally tapped both and the Beluga had the larger sweetspot, so naturally I bought that one!

Quote from: WalkingWicket37 on March 20, 2013, 10:23:18 PM
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Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: procricket on March 01, 2015, 06:22:02 PM: Quote from: i12breakfree on March 01, 2015, 01:44:32 PM
Some of the duckbill profile bats at the world cup

Sangakkara

(http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t518/i12breakfree/CricDeals-stock/pro-bat/Sanga2_zpsfsvpytnu.jpg) (http://s1063.photobucket.com/user/i12breakfree/media/CricDeals-stock/pro-bat/Sanga2_zpsfsvpytnu.jpg.html)

(http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t518/i12breakfree/CricDeals-stock/pro-bat/SangaBat_zpsnbs650of.jpg) (http://s1063.photobucket.com/user/i12breakfree/media/CricDeals-stock/pro-bat/SangaBat_zpsnbs650of.jpg.html)

As i was saying i prefer Sanga's...

(http://i58.tinypic.com/33emqfb.jpg)

(http://i61.tinypic.com/156flv6.jpg)

(http://i57.tinypic.com/2r6ku43.jpg)

My version of it
Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: procricket on March 01, 2015, 06:22:52 PM: About half a inch lower down bill mine has...
Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on March 01, 2015, 06:28:35 PM: Wait, is that an exact copy of Sanga's shape? (What I mean is have B3 made for Sanga?)
Or your interpretation of his shape?
Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: procricket on March 01, 2015, 06:31:32 PM: No...

You have to remember i have a few contacts around the place this bat is merely a unknown secret bat got a ssh too HEHE

I like this bat and his shape is brilliant
Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on March 01, 2015, 06:40:55 PM: I was going to ask or is it from somewhere completely different, but didn't want my post to look like I was playing 20 questions! ;)
Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: procricket on March 01, 2015, 06:46:16 PM: Haha we have made a few that are being used at the world cup but his are not ours
Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: Kez on March 01, 2015, 10:34:01 PM: Duckbill toes aren't new though, woodworm wands had them.

And as tony at hunts says all bats are the same. a handle, a small bit, a big bit and a small bit again. Only so many ways to change it. like clothes there will always be fashions.
Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: procricket on March 01, 2015, 10:42:18 PM: Of course there not the reflex if you look through old pictures of bats your own collections you will see them.

Just different styles of ducks high ones to low ones
Title: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: Boondougal on March 02, 2015, 04:41:52 AM: Quote from: procricket B3 on March 01, 2015, 06:31:32 PM
No...

You have to remember i have a few contacts around the place this bat is merely a unknown secret bat got a ssh too HEHE

I like this bat and his shape is brilliant

I think that Ssh has a crack/split/surface imperfection.

I'll take it off you so you have space for the good ones.

[emoji12][emoji12][emoji12]
Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: procricket on March 02, 2015, 09:08:56 AM: Come to the nets with Russ mate it will be there then
Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: Boondougal on March 02, 2015, 12:56:25 PM: Ha... Would love too but it's a 2.5 hour journey for me at the moment!! I've been trying to engineer a work meeting up that way but as yet no luck
Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: i12breakfree on March 02, 2015, 01:19:06 PM: Need to get this back on track ;)

Shikhar Dhawan

(http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t518/i12breakfree/SD_zps2s0wbucd.jpg) (http://s1063.photobucket.com/user/i12breakfree/media/SD_zps2s0wbucd.jpg.html)

Machan

(http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t518/i12breakfree/CricDeals-stock/pro-bat/Machan_zpsxizd3226.jpg) (http://s1063.photobucket.com/user/i12breakfree/media/CricDeals-stock/pro-bat/Machan_zpsxizd3226.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: procricket on March 02, 2015, 01:44:14 PM: Have a look at finch and Smith
Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: Blank Bats on March 02, 2015, 02:20:07 PM: I like Steve Smith version, very nice indeed.
Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: i12breakfree on March 02, 2015, 03:30:19 PM: Quote from: procricket B3 on March 02, 2015, 01:44:14 PM
Have a look at finch and Smith

Post pics if u can
Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: mo_town on March 02, 2015, 04:22:42 PM: I must say that is something I have been focusing on this World Cup...looking out for Duck bills :)... is there a reason why so many players are using this profile? Does this let one have a meaty bat with a lighter pickup that's needed on the quicky and bouncy Aus wickets? Is there a logic to the trend? Would duckbills be useful on low English pitches?
Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: Buzz on March 03, 2015, 11:58:03 AM: I have to be honest I don't like these really flat "duct bill" toes.

:o
Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: trypewriter on March 03, 2015, 12:09:13 PM: Quote from: Buzz on March 03, 2015, 11:58:03 AM
I have to be honest I don't like these really flat "duct bill" toes.

:o

I didn't until I got one ;)
Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: tim2000s on March 03, 2015, 12:51:56 PM: Quote from: mo_town on March 02, 2015, 04:22:42 PM
I must say that is something I have been focusing on this World Cup...looking out for Duck bills :)... is there a reason why so many players are using this profile? Does this let one have a meaty bat with a lighter pickup that's needed on the quicky and bouncy Aus wickets? Is there a logic to the trend? Would duckbills be useful on low English pitches?
HAving used duckbill Hunts bats for years on English pitches, I'd say it makes little difference. Does give the bat a slightly lighter pick up though.
Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: awp on March 03, 2015, 01:28:56 PM: Quote from: Blank Bats on March 02, 2015, 02:20:07 PM
I like Steve Smith version, very nice indeed.
Ditto.

I recently attended the tri series final at the waca and stood 2m behind the practice nets and had a great look at bats. Smiths bat is absolutely pure, was perhaps the lightest/smallest of the bats I saw - guessing its a massive 2.6 bat or the like. The shape was imo perfect and all edges of the bat looked perfectly formed, it was extremely 'white' The biggest bat was roots six6, which looked nothing like even a player edition bat, best stickers, morgans spartan, I think that game was its first outing (albeit very brief)
Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: i12breakfree on March 26, 2015, 12:35:40 PM: Steve Smith

(http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t518/i12breakfree/CricDeals-stock/pro-bat/smithbat_zps6dcolaqj.jpg) (http://s1063.photobucket.com/user/i12breakfree/media/CricDeals-stock/pro-bat/smithbat_zps6dcolaqj.jpg.html)

Aaron Finch

(http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t518/i12breakfree/CricDeals-stock/pro-bat/finchbat_zpskbvsxg8f.jpg) (http://s1063.photobucket.com/user/i12breakfree/media/CricDeals-stock/pro-bat/finchbat_zpskbvsxg8f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: swat on March 26, 2015, 03:11:22 PM: Reminds me of this

(http://i1341.photobucket.com/albums/o743/Swat_k/IMG-20150321-WA0014_zpsouphgokf.jpg) (http://s1341.photobucket.com/user/Swat_k/media/IMG-20150321-WA0014_zpsouphgokf.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: CrickFreak on March 26, 2015, 03:35:06 PM: Quote from: Buzz on March 03, 2015, 11:58:03 AM
I have to be honest I don't like these really flat "duct bill" toes.

:o

They dont look good but has amazing pick up. And the weight distribution is such that it packs a punch.... i like the duckbills, been using it for a year now.

Quote from: i12breakfree on March 26, 2015, 12:35:40 PM
Steve Smith

([url]http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t518/i12breakfree/CricDeals-stock/pro-bat/smithbat_zps6dcolaqj.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1063.photobucket.com/user/i12breakfree/media/CricDeals-stock/pro-bat/smithbat_zps6dcolaqj.jpg.html[/url])

Aaron Finch

([url]http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t518/i12breakfree/CricDeals-stock/pro-bat/finchbat_zpskbvsxg8f.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1063.photobucket.com/user/i12breakfree/media/CricDeals-stock/pro-bat/finchbat_zpskbvsxg8f.jpg.html[/url])

The Steve Smith bat looks so much like SS pasted below. Are they made by SS?
Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: uknsaunders on March 26, 2015, 04:38:50 PM: How thick do you think Steve Smith's bat toe is? Looks like 25-30mm to me. Wouldn't mind a profile like that but the middle placement higher up the blade. George Bailey has a similar profile, 2:30 ish:-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCjtbU4JHAk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCjtbU4JHAk)
Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: Chad on March 26, 2015, 04:45:39 PM: Quote from: i12breakfree on March 26, 2015, 12:35:40 PM
Steve Smith

([url]http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t518/i12breakfree/CricDeals-stock/pro-bat/smithbat_zps6dcolaqj.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1063.photobucket.com/user/i12breakfree/media/CricDeals-stock/pro-bat/smithbat_zps6dcolaqj.jpg.html[/url])

Aaron Finch

([url]http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t518/i12breakfree/CricDeals-stock/pro-bat/finchbat_zpskbvsxg8f.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1063.photobucket.com/user/i12breakfree/media/CricDeals-stock/pro-bat/finchbat_zpskbvsxg8f.jpg.html[/url])

Funnily enough, they actually look like the 860 and 1080 NB profiles...

(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h201/_Maverick27_/FullSizeRender_zpszvjai10b.jpg)
Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: simonmay5 on March 26, 2015, 05:02:28 PM: Agree with chad they do look like yours mate that's for sure
Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: Chad on March 26, 2015, 05:03:55 PM: Quote from: simonmay5 on March 26, 2015, 05:02:28 PM
Agree with chad they do look like yours mate that's for sure

Haha I wish that one was mine! Mine is the old Achieve shape, and is a lower grade. Still looks stunning for the price mind you! :)
Title: Re: Duckbill at CWC2015
Post by: e4sby on March 26, 2015, 05:09:42 PM: Very similar to the DC880 that has been tempting me.....
(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/26/2aa08b6e1608106e23a55cbb40b2899f.jpg)