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Equipment => Bats => Bat Care => Topic started by: rp27 on March 15, 2015, 05:51:16 PM

Title: A little bit of advice
Post by: rp27 on March 15, 2015, 05:51:16 PM
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Just had this happen to my new bat, what should I do? :(
Title: Re: A little bit of advice
Post by: tom line on March 15, 2015, 07:03:04 PM
How long have you had the bat? My immediate reaction would be to contact the retailer you bought it from. Obviously providing it had been knocked in properly. If not I'd ask a forum sponsor for a repair price as the damage looks beyond which most amateurs could repair.
Title: Re: A little bit of advice
Post by: rp27 on March 15, 2015, 07:09:38 PM
Since just before Christmas, it's from online stockist so I don't rate my chances of getting it sorted with them highly. I was just going to glue it and tape it up and hope for the best, I'm not sure it's worth spending £25+ on repairing when it only cost £130 in the first place.
Title: Re: A little bit of advice
Post by: Seniorplayer on March 15, 2015, 07:20:01 PM
Cannot really tell how bad the damage is you could get the cost of a professional repair you could ask for advice where it was purchased  as they may help or you or you could apply PVA glue into the crack apply a clamp when the glue as dried remove clamp sand off excess then rather than apply a scuff sheet for strengh bind damaged area with fibre glass tape.
Title: Re: A little bit of advice
Post by: rp27 on March 15, 2015, 07:22:48 PM
Well I've sent them the pictures and I'll see what they say. I'm trying to work out whether it is a flaw in the willow that was always going to break.
Title: Re: A little bit of advice
Post by: Seniorplayer on March 15, 2015, 07:39:15 PM
For it to be a flaw I guess it depends if the willow was to dry  when it was pressed and if it had the correct moisture content and what degree of pressing the blade as recieved.
Title: Re: A little bit of advice
Post by: Gurujames on March 15, 2015, 07:51:24 PM
It is not entirely clear from the photos as one looks as though it is an inch from the toe, the other looks like it goes through the toe. Does the crack extend to the back?
It looks like you got a big inside edge possibly from a Yorker and the corner is about to fall off.  Take the toe guard off and see how far through the toe it goes. Put in vice/sash cramp/G clamp without glue and see if the crack closes up. I have had a hard pressed bat where no matter the force put on it I couldn't bring the surfaces back together, also it will give you a good idea of the angle the jaws of the clamp need to be at. If the surfaces come together use a syringe and needle to inject the glue into the crack and clamp. Leave 24hrs. You may then need to strengthen it with 2 or so dowels drilled at angles into the main body of the bat.
If you cannot get the right angle to put pressure on the joint using clamps, pilot hole and screw in a screw/s to bring the surfaces together. When the glue is set remove the screw, redrill the hole for 6 or 8mm dowel.
Hope that helps
Title: Re: A little bit of advice
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on March 15, 2015, 07:52:49 PM
I had a Six6 go like that last season (although not as far through)
I glued it so it was solid, then put a couple of dowells in. One deeper than the crack to add some strength, and the other I went through the crack so it didn't spread any further.
Title: Re: A little bit of advice
Post by: rp27 on March 15, 2015, 08:03:47 PM
It is not entirely clear from the photos as one looks as though it is an inch from the toe, the other looks like it goes through the toe. Does the crack extend to the back?
It looks like you got a big inside edge possibly from a Yorker and the corner is about to fall off.  Take the toe guard off and see how far through the toe it goes. Put in vice/sash cramp/G clamp without glue and see if the crack closes up. I have had a hard pressed bat where no matter the force put on it I couldn't bring the surfaces back together, also it will give you a good idea of the angle the jaws of the clamp need to be at. If the surfaces come together use a syringe and needle to inject the glue into the crack and clamp. Leave 24hrs. You may then need to strengthen it with 2 or so dowels drilled at angles into the main body of the bat.
If you cannot get the right angle to put pressure on the joint using clamps, pilot hole and screw in a screw/s to bring the surfaces together. When the glue is set remove the screw, redrill the hole for 6 or 8mm dowel.
Hope that helps
I've just ordered some glue and syringes to try and do this. The crack doesn't extend through to the back of the bat, so I guess that's a good sign.
Title: Re: A little bit of advice
Post by: Gurujames on March 15, 2015, 08:07:18 PM
I have a team mates bat that has a similar problem. I didn't want to say as it may seem a bit complex but....  I am going to put a groove down the edge and toe with a router table and 8mm straight cutter about 10mm deep. I will then insert a strip of willow from a donor bat into that rebate. Think of a Slazenger TAS.
A similar thing can also be done with a biscuit jointer. Easier too.
Get a nurse friend to get the syringes for free. Who said the NHS no longer served the public interest.
Title: Re: A little bit of advice
Post by: rp27 on March 15, 2015, 09:39:06 PM
I've pulled the toe guard off, and it doesn't look great, the smaller looking crack on the face(closer to the outside edge) goes pretty much all the way through to the back of the bat.
Title: Re: A little bit of advice
Post by: Ryan on March 15, 2015, 09:42:45 PM
i'd suggest getting someone to put a toe insert in and it should be ok. Glue fixes anything.
Title: Re: A little bit of advice
Post by: rp27 on March 15, 2015, 09:43:44 PM
Thanks for the advice! Any suggestions of someone who could do it for me for a reasonable price?
Title: Re: A little bit of advice
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on March 15, 2015, 09:50:15 PM
i'd suggest getting someone to put a toe insert in and it should be ok. Glue fixes anything.

Do you know anyone who's able to do that Ryan?  ;)
Title: Re: A little bit of advice
Post by: Gurujames on March 15, 2015, 10:05:02 PM
Where in the country are you?
Title: Re: A little bit of advice
Post by: rp27 on March 15, 2015, 10:31:04 PM
England!
Title: Re: A little bit of advice
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on March 15, 2015, 10:32:32 PM
Where in the country are you?
England!

Well that narrows it down!  ???
Title: Re: A little bit of advice
Post by: rp27 on March 15, 2015, 10:35:28 PM
Well that narrows it down!  ???
Sorry, I'm tired! I misread the question as what country are you in! I'm in the south west currently, but over easter I will be in the midlands.
Title: Re: A little bit of advice
Post by: Gurujames on March 16, 2015, 08:20:52 AM
Try M and H, they may be able to sort it out for you. alternatively, I will fix my team mates bat on Thursday/Friday this week and I will post photos. If you like it I can do it for you (pro bono). I am in Taunton
Title: Re: A little bit of advice
Post by: Ryan on March 17, 2015, 10:05:16 PM
Do you know anyone who's able to do that Ryan?  ;)
I may or may not know someone who could do such a thing [emoji14]