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General Cricket => Latest Matches => Topic started by: FattusCattus on March 15, 2015, 09:50:47 PM
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Big talk about the 10 team world cup and the exclusion of the minnows.
Also, my personal feeling is the group games have dragged on an taken too long.
Why not have the 10 test playing nations, plus 5 minnows. 3 x groups of 5, with at least 2 games played every day.
Top two from each group go through with the best 2 3rd placers.
That way, more group games to see each day - a maximum of 2 minnows per group and minnows represented.
Now where's my flight to Dubai?
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the problem with that is if indian dont do well the ICC dont get as much money from sponsors. this to me seems like a very short term arguement because surely if there are more teams playing in the tournament especially ones such as USA and china then there will be a bigger global audience.
so far the best thing about the 2019 edition is the fact that the tournament has less teams in it but last 3 days longer.
im sure even with 14 teams in it like this world cup they could have teams playing every 3/4 days maximum and speed the whole thing up. Pakistan just had a week off before playing Ireland.
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They have produced some great cricket, and Ireland nearly did the minnows proud by making it out of the group stage.
But with all due respect should the teams who didn't win a game against a test nation like Scotland, the UAE and England really be allowed to waste everyone's time? ;)
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But has Big Willy Porterfield says - how will minnows such as Scotland, UAE and England ever get any better unless they get the chance to play against Test Nations?
It's working for Ireland in 50 overs and Holland in T20.
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i would love to see them expand it to say 20 team i know to start with there would be a lot of mismatches and there would only be a few teams that would ever actually win but to me that is the same as the football world cup and everyone still goes mental for that.
i do agree with big willy why should the weaker nations bother playing if there isnt ever any chance of playing at the world cup.
are they still expanding the t20 world cup? not saying this makes up for it just cant remember.
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First things first there should be 2 games every day in the wc regardless.
Was stupid dragging this on so long. I watch any cricket all year round. Ask our lass. Yet the last week I lost interest.
Especially with this one being in two countries. If aus can have a bbl game every day for 4 weeks. They can certainly do it for the wc!
WC should be 16 teams. 4 groups of 4. Top 2 into quarters. 3 match days each group. 1played Every 4 days. Means groups could be over in a fortnight. And onto the quarters.
And frankly I don't care if India cry cos they don't qualify. If they don't it's only them to blame not the format.
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Have to admit that even I am bored of this world Cup now. Same problem as last time. It just takes too long. If you have six grounds available play six games FFS. Get the groups done in less than a month. Any tournament shouldn't last as long as this whatever the sport!
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First things first there should be 2 games every day in the wc regardless.
Was stupid dragging this on so long. I watch any cricket all year round. Ask our lass. Yet the last week I lost interest.
Especially with this one being in two countries. If aus can have a bbl game every day for 4 weeks. They can certainly do it for the wc!
WC should be 16 teams. 4 groups of 4. Top 2 into quarters. 3 match days each group. 1played Every 4 days. Means groups could be over in a fortnight. And onto the quarters.
And frankly I don't care if India cry cos they don't qualify. If they don't it's only them to blame not the format.
i think this is the perfect format it'll be all done and dusted in a month decent cricket and no hanging around waiting for the next game.
they then need to expand the 4 years in between so all 20 countries get to play each other a decent amount of times
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4 groups of 4 is perfect, give a toss if India goes out - it's not like the ICC need the money that desperately! Also surely they negotiate broadcast/sponsorship deals in advance, not as the tournament progresses?
Afghanistan coach made an excellent suggestion about warmups - every team touring UAE to play Pakistan should play warmups against Afg, likewise England/Ireland/Scotland etc. Repeat that around the world and it's a good start at least, then hopefully the associates can progress faster. To be fair to Australia, at least they've been leading the way in making a habit of playing Ireland when they're over here.
Also - maybe a controversial thought but why does cricket only allow certain teams to play tests? FIFA doesn't make smaller footballing nations play 5 a side until they're good enough to step up, why do we not let other nations play tests? So what if they're not good enough to play the top sides, it's not like Zimbabwe and Bangladesh are anyway.
Unfortunately it seems cricket really is no longer being run with any thought towards the fans, cannot believe the ICC didn't apply to have cricket in the Olympics (imagine that!). New Kerry Packer figure needed please.
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it's al about capitalism...
everything is. People spout the right words but at the end of the day, all people care about is money, status and what people think. very sad world we live in this modern world.
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everything is. People spout the right words but at the end of the day, all people care about is money, status and what people think. very sad world we live in this modern world.
Totally agree, it's very important, but it's not everything. The game will be around long after Giles Clarke and his two money maker mates are dust - let's just hope they haven't left it in an irretrievable mess...
They don't have a passion for cricket, they have a passion for power.
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Totally agree, it's very important, but it's not everything. The game will be around long after Giles Clarke and his two money maker mates are dust - let's just hope they haven't left it in an irretrievable mess...
They don't have a passion for cricket, they have a passion for power.
It's only important if you make money important. YOu don't 'need' to earn mega bucks to have a good life, it's only if you want to drive a range rover instead of a Kia sportage or own a 4 bed in a northamptonshire village over a 4 bed town house in corby etc
as for the game being around long after them.. will it?? have you seen the numbers falling out the game at the amateur level?? that means in 10 years time less people watching (both tv and attendances)... 20 years even less etc etc
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Its always struck me as ridiculous that teams are waiting 7-9 days to play their next match throughout the World Cup group stages! Each team should have a gap between games of 3-4 days to keep the flow going.
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Those Northampton village 4 bed owning RR driving scumbags :)
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Those Northampton village 4 bed owning RR driving scumbags :)
there are way too many of them around Northants.. Unless you live in Northampton, which is the biggest dump known to man.
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Even if they went with the current format I think it would be a lot better if the pre-qualification tournament was played in England before the world cup. Link it in to the main event rather than make it something completely separate that is hardly noticed.
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Ireland are better than Zimbabwe, joke if they play in nxt WC ahead of Ireland. Waste of time
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Am I right in thinking despite cutting lose 4 teams the next world cup isn't really over any quicker than this years edition was?
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I think it's 1 day longer
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It's a bit chicken or egg.
Scotland won't get any better if they don't play more big countries.
Yet if they fail to qualify for a WC it means half the staff at Cricket Scotland are jobless.
So it's a thin dividing line.
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I think it's 1 day longer
Why? God that's ridiculous if it is! There should be two games a day almost every day and get through the bloody tournament!
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2015 world cup had 49 matches over 44 days with 14 teams
2019 world cup will have i think it was less matches over 46 days with ten teams
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Why? God that's ridiculous if it is! There should be two games a day almost every day and get through the bloody tournament!
Exactly, it should be a month long absolute tops. pretty tough to build up any WC fever when the bloody thing last forever (they had rest days in this one, despite some teams having 2 week gaps between games!).
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I remember watching World Cup football years ago when the African nations were a joke. Look at them now! Sepp Blatter might be a complete berk but he has at least helped spread football across the globe. If he was in charge of the ICC we'd be playing the next world cup in the UAE or Iceland perhaps!
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There's a well known quote that power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
I don't see how having total power, in FIFAs case where they are not even answerable to governments, can be good for any game. Blatter has only canvassed African, Asian and Arab nations to hold on to power by securing votes. World cricket is going the same way. I don't see the bcci and ecb ceding power to anyone...
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It's also true that people who chase power shouldn't actually ever have power. People who are reluctant to have power should have the power. ICC are as corrupt as they come, we've known it for ages but like all things, choose to just say 'oh well, what can you do' and let them off. Just like we do with the ECB, Premier League, Fifa, Banks etc etc
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They make the schedule so long in order to maximise tv revenue. Showing two games at once isn't as valuable as 2 games on 2 different days. The issue then is it drags on and add in the "India" clause of India not getting knocked out early for the sake of sponsors, we end up in this mess.
You could do a qualifying tournament for minnows, but no TV money in that and extra expense for the hosts. You could cut the 2 groups down to even numbers - 6 in each. Means they play once every 6 days as a minimum and group stages would be limited to 30 days. If you went for 2 games a day, scheduled at 10.30pm and 2pm to minimise overlap you could get it down to 3 day turnaround and 15 days for the group stages. Remember, far less travelling in the UK. Stick to the same schedule and Qtr Final is Day 18, Semi Day 21 and Final Day 24. That's a 20 day saving, two associates included and only a slight overlap in matches.
If you went to 16 teams, then it's once every 4 days you play or 28 days for group stages. Stick to 3 days for Qtr/Semi/Final and you are done by day 37.
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Ireland are better than Zimbabwe, joke if they play in nxt WC ahead of Ireland. Waste of time
Sure they are...Zim where in contention in all 6 of their matches. They weren't hammered/humiliated in any of their matches unlike Ireland.
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2019 world cup.
Look at rankings. Get the top two teams. Let them play each other.
Boom champs claimed. Tournament over. Simples.