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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: MrCricket321 on March 29, 2015, 06:10:29 AM
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Does a bat handle make any difference to the performance of the cricket bat?
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Yes
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Most definitely
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Which type of handle gives best performance? Carbon handles?
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Carbon handles definitely has an effect. But the pickup and feel is not great in my opinion.
In terms of round or oval handles, I definitely prefer a thick oval handle. I get more power onto the shot with an oval handle because the bat doesn't twist in your hand as much.
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did you say Four candles?
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Carbon Handles
because an 100 Percent carbon fibre handle weighs less than one third of the weight of a cane handle the weight can be retain within the blade giving the bat a bigger profile.
Cane Handle
fitted with carbon fibre springs or titanium instead of cork or rubber
Gives a stiffer handle therefore less energy is lost when the bat makes contact is made with the ball
Similar effect to the 1970s steel spring handle.
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I had a GN Fusion with the hollow carbon handle. Thought it was a great idea until i started using it in games. Near impossible to soft hand shots with the ball pinging off like a table tennis ball. Last straw was batting on a wet deck and popping it straight down silly mid on's throat because the bat was so damn stiff. Sound the handle made was embarrassing too.
Luckily it cracked down both shoulders a week before the warranty ran out and i got a full refund.
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I had a GN Fusion with the hollow carbon handle. Thought it was a great idea until i started using it in games. Near impossible to soft hand shots with the ball pinging off like a table tennis ball. Last straw was batting on a wet deck and popping it straight down silly mid on's throat because the bat was so damn stiff. Sound the handle made was embarrassing too.
Luckily it cracked down both shoulders a week before the warranty ran out and i got a full refund.
Yes I had the same experience the one I had was fitted with a transparent handle cap to reduce the acoustic sound.
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Octagonal Handles?
http://liveandbreathecricket.blogspot.com.au/2012/12/octagonal-bat-handle.html (http://liveandbreathecricket.blogspot.com.au/2012/12/octagonal-bat-handle.html)
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can bat makers buy carbon handles?
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can bat makers buy carbon handles?
I don't think so mate, they're banned so aren't used anymore.
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Does the number of cane pieces make much difference? For example I notice that SFs seem to have 12 pieces whilst SS only 9.
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Carbon Handles
because an 100 Percent carbon fibre handle weighs less than one third of the weight of a cane handle the weight can be retain within the blade giving the bat a bigger profile.
Cane Handle
fitted with carbon fibre springs or titanium instead of cork or rubber
Gives a stiffer handle therefore less energy is lost when the bat makes contact is made with the ball
Similar effect to the 1970s steel spring handle.
I have a different theory and so do many pro players to your top thought on less weight in the handle I say more weight in the handle.
Many of the players we have supplied and do supply want heavier handles as it helps pick up with weight towards the hands a natural pivot or counter balance. It why quite a number of players use heavier bats than many think yet still pick up like a toothpick.
It not just low density that makes a bat massive yet light with added heavier handle it adds weight yet still picks up a treat.
As for carbon handles I used to swear by them but prefer cork ones today not sure why either
You can get natural variants in handle weight up to extra or minus 2.5oz
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I have a different theory and so do many pro players to your top thought on less weight in the handle I say more weight in the handle.
Many of the players we have supplied and do supply want heavier handles as it helps pick up with weight towards the hands a natural pivot or counter balance. It why quite a number of players use heavier bats than many think yet still pick up like a toothpick.
It not just low density that makes a bat massive yet light with added heavier handle it adds weight yet still picks up a treat.
As for carbon handles I used to swear by them but prefer cork ones today not sure why either
You can get natural variants in handle weight up to extra or minus 2.5oz
Makes sense. I like the balance point around the base of the splice or 5 inches from the top of the blade. I tend to use inch long grip off cuts at the tip of the handle to achieve this, rather than extra grips. It just makes the bat feel easier to play the cut or pull shot later.
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Whats the spring handle?
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Yes Dave you are correct it's common knowledge the heavier the handle the lighter the bat picks up.
My post was learning more towards retaining a bigger profile within the blade along with bigger edges by reducing the weight of the handle.
I also believe that is the reason why Gray Nicolls developed the Carbon Handle.
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I don't think so mate, they're banned so aren't used anymore.
shame, i had a carbo ignite and that handle was the best
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I don't think so mate, they're banned so aren't used anymore.
so lams are banned but you can still get them. woulnt mind carbon handles as no one would know
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You're a pretty judgemental fellow though, surely you couldn't stand the guilt.
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You're a pretty judgemental fellow though, surely you couldn't stand the guilt.
probably not, i like the idea of cheating like others though.
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Yes Dave you are correct it's common knowledge the heavier the handle the lighter the bat picks up.
My post was learning more towards retaining a bigger profile within the blade along with bigger edges by reducing the weight of the handle.
I also believe that is the reason why Gray Nicolls developed the Carbon Handle.
I believe like Laver with there Carbo Core it was more due to stiffness really as a avid old time user of a Carbo core and the C6 extensively i can confirm this.
However a broken or near broken handle goes well and i know of a few Asian players who remove bits of rubber and allsorts from there handles.
Why quite a few pro use use heavier than people think due to the handles weight :D
I also don't think outside the industry it is not a well know fact most on the forum did not know
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So do Carbon Handles make the bat perform batter?Why?
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In theory due to stiffness Streaky was telling me but i have always preferred whip the carbo acts as a dampener to me and it hard to tell if you hit it hard or not especially the Carbo core James Laver used.
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just curious what is difference between cork and rubber in handles?
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I believe like Laver with there Carbo Core it was more due to stiffness really as a avid old time user of a Carbo core and the C6 extensively i can confirm this.
However a broken or near broken handle goes well and i know of a few Asian players who remove bits of rubber and allsorts from there handles.
Why quite a few pro use use heavier than people think due to the handles weight :D
I also don't think outside the industry it is not a well know fact most on the forum did not know
Dave i think with regard to carbon core and stiffness what you are referring to is the GN Atomic handle.
Also on here is a post from GNs The Biginge dated 15 December 2011 confiming this.
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Does the number of cane pieces in the handle make much difference? For example I notice that SFs seem to have 12 pieces whilst SS only 9.
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Does the number of cane pieces in the handle make much difference? For example I notice that SFs seem to have 12 pieces whilst SS only 9.
The more springs there are in the handle the better the stiffness feel and control.
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Dave i think with regard to carbon core and stiffness what you are referring to is the GN Atomic handle.
Also on here is a post from GNs The Biginge dated 15 December 2011 confiming this.
I'm on about the laver carbo core I had many a chat with James red stiffness mate I used one for 3 years.
Handles take time to settle in my eyes but like knocking in a bat I prefer flex but then again I'm told I'm wrong by scientist but it what I like
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Does the number of cane pieces in the handle make much difference? For example I notice that SFs seem to have 12 pieces whilst SS only 9.
yes - more pieces will increase the stiffness of the handle
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Really? I find Sohndi handles stiffer and they have less pieces, I would have thought more pieces that can move would create more flex?
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We can supply carbo handles, if anyone is interested just get in touch.
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A guy at my club has a Fearnley Magnum with that much flex it feels like the handle Is made of rubber I've seen many bats that flex but not one that compares to the amount of flex in this handle.
When you lean on the handle it feels like it is going to come out of the splice.
But the ball flies off the face which goes against all principles of bat science.
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Really? I find Sohndi handles stiffer and they have less pieces, I would have thought more pieces that can move would create more flex?
That is my understanding along with better feel and control.
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Pardon my ignorance but what is flex?
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Pardon my ignorance but what is flex?
Scientifically described, flex is how flexy the handle is :D
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Pardon my ignorance but what is flex?
think of holding a golf driver and wiggling it and you will see the shaft "flex". While considerably less marked, the handle on a bat can flex.
The reason that, for example, the carbo handles are popular is because they are very stiff. The stiffness in the handle causes less energy loss through the shot and thus, in theory better performance.
This is different to a golf club where the flex is used to increase club head speed in slower swings.
The downside of a stiff handle is that it mishits cause more vibrations.
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How much for a SH one K-Dog? Wouldn't mind getting a couple put onto my bats that's all.
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Never really considered the difference in handles until David at Norfolk bats showed me the three types of handles he uses. The difference in flex was considerable, from pretty rigid to bendy. My Norfolk butterfly has the most flexible handle, which has rubber inserts and is supposed to be made for a certain Indian legend.