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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: MrCricket321 on April 01, 2015, 05:46:26 AM
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How Long Is The Middle on The Newbery Tour? what profile do you guys think will attain a very large middle? (Width ways and length ways )
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SCAT series 1 for sure, will defintely beat everyone in middle length & width along with bat pickup as well. Nearest I think would be B3 Trott profile.
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Down to the bat maker and his pressing talent
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I think a Slaz V1200 is similar to the SCAT profile and with the dual scoop it should be wide enough. Shame they are judged on the SD Fusion bats which are very badly pressed.
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Anyone know the length of the middle on the Newbery Tour?Where is the sweet spot positioned?
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Look at my Blank Bats hulk thread - that is arguably a similar shape to a tour XL with a video review and some pics
http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=30489.0 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=30489.0)
but in simple terms the middle is long and starts about 4-5 inches from the toe.
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There isn't a middle big enough for you tiger!!
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Hi Buzz,
How long approximately is the sweet spot on the tour?
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For me nothing touches the 1271 in terms of volume of wood bar the tendulker.
I have dont volume conversions the tendulkar is volume wise bigger than almost any bat made from a normal sized cleft
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Pardon Me, but what do you mean by this?
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No bother on the cad design we get a cleft we see how much wood is used in a shape.
The tendulkar shape uses more of a normal sized cleft than 90 per cent of all profiles.
The 1271 which is a trott players profile uses up a big proportion and the shape and size allow for a maximum hitting area. The scat profile is very similar in terms of coverage too.
Coverage= size of good playing area with decent rebound
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So the Middle is pretty long on the tour? What about the pickup
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Pickup on the tour is poor mate
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How bad
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All different for different people mate.
As convex bats go I feel scalloping is required towards the toe
I did this too it picks up a treat
http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=32815.0 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=32815.0)
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I'm not a massive fan of the pickup on the Tour
Having tapped up a mates when they were brand new I loved it shape and response wise, but over time (and a few hits with his) I've decided it might be a pinger but it doesn't feel right for me. That said, he has one chevron grip and no extra binding - yuck!
If I got an extra half later of binding on the handle and a ripple grip the pickup might be okay and if happily use it, but if you only use one grip it picks up like a railway sleeper in my opinion!
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Pick up is very personal thing. Does a Tour/Hulk pick up light? no but I have used low & mid-low middle bats all my life and find no issue with picking up my Hulk. It Pings from very close to the Toe to slightly above the butterfly mark, I hit a straight six last year on the up (was not intented to go all the way but just clear infield) and thought gee i middled that but when i looked down I could see the seam mark right on the stain now I don't know if it was butterfly or the shape but overall it has been one of the most forgiving bat that I have used expect 1 or 2 others.
http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=31645.0 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=31645.0)
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I have a Gold Sovereign from Aldred that has the biggest middle I have ever used. Honestly it goes from about 2 inches above the toe all the way to the stickers.
(http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee458/tanwatfa/IMG_13051_zpsd00b4669.jpg)
(http://i1228.photobucket.com/albums/ee458/tanwatfa/IMG_13041_zpsd7775d8f.jpg)
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Pick up is very personal thing. Does a Tour/Hulk pick up light? no but I have used low & mid-low middle bats all my life and find no issue with picking up my Hulk. It Pings from very close to the Toe to slightly above the butterfly mark, I hit a straight six last year on the up (was not intented to go all the way but just clear infield) and thought gee i middled that but when i looked down I could see the seam mark right on the stain now I don't know if it was butterfly or the shape but overall it has been one of the most forgiving bat that I have used expect 1 or 2 others.
[url]http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=31645.0[/url] ([url]http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=31645.0[/url])
Where does the sweetspot end? the butterfly under the stickers or the one on the side to the right of the bat?
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I think in general the more wood down the line of the hands (ie. spine) the better the pickup. Also the higher up the blade the middle is the better the pickup. So a bat with big edges, small flat spine and low middle will never pickup well. If you move the middle up, ie. an Amplus, you get wide coverage and decent pickup
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I think in general the more wood down the line of the hands (ie. spine) the better the pickup. Also the higher up the blade the middle is the better the pickup. So a bat with big edges, small flat spine and low middle will never pickup well. If you move the middle up, ie. an Amplus, you get wide coverage and decent pickup
That is not entirely true. Look at all the duckbills in the other wc thread. All bats shown in the thread have mid-low middle and the guys used them swung it like a twig facing 140+ kph on bouncy pitches.
I think the shape of the toe has massive role to play in pickup.
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That is not entirely true. Look at all the duckbills in the other wc thread. All bats shown in the thread have mid-low middle and the guys used them swung it like a twig facing 140+ kph on bouncy pitches.
I think the shape of the toe has massive role to play in pickup.
Proves my point, it's been duckbilled to improve pickup, which is just another way of concaving the bat ie. chopping the spine element out of the toe and lower section of the bat. If we are however looking at spineless non concaved big edged bats like the Tour then my point is still valid.
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This is the Sachin Tendulkar profile. It's an SG T45 Ultimate bat.
Also, any comments nyone
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Where does the sweetspot end? the butterfly under the stickers or the one on the side to the right of the bat?
Butterfly under the stickers
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Proves my point, it's been duckbilled to improve pickup, which is just another way of concaving the bat ie. chopping the spine element out of the toe and lower section of the bat. If we are however looking at spineless non concaved big edged bats like the Tour then my point is still valid.
True. All I meant was a light pickup is possible with low middle, thick edges and average spine height.
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Anyone know anyways to improve the pickup significantly on the Newbery Tour
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Anyone know anyways to improve the pickup significantly on the Newbery Tour
Extra grips
Added binding
Lead tape on the handle
Sand some of the wood away near the toe to make a duckbill
All of the above at once
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You either like the pick up or you don't (i do)
All the things above, other than removing wood from the toe are largely a placebo.
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You either like the pick up or you don't (i do)
All the things above, other than removing wood from the toe are largely a placebo.
Placebo or not, it makes your bat handle look cool! ;)
(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb450/CPye061194/D3855247-9658-4256-8F00-EC621919C261_zps3tgcnptu.jpg) (http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/CPye061194/media/D3855247-9658-4256-8F00-EC621919C261_zps3tgcnptu.jpg.html)
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This has got a very long middle and the profile I think is really nice indeed (http://i1360.photobucket.com/albums/r659/Simonalfie5/image.jpg1_zpsbbafe2oj.jpg) (http://s1360.photobucket.com/user/Simonalfie5/media/image.jpg1_zpsbbafe2oj.jpg.html)
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My Hellfire has the biggest middle I've ever used but it is 3lb 2oz :-[ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf_FUzWLF9A (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf_FUzWLF9A)