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Companies => Off-the-shelf companies => Sareen Sports => Topic started by: WalkingWicket37 on April 15, 2015, 12:07:23 PM
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Hi all
Just a quick thread. I was shown three pictures of the same model bat today. They are, to my knowledge, supposed to be all the same shape of they're the same model, but that wasn't the case. It looks like the maker shapes the cleft however they feel on the day and applies the stickers.
Bat 1 - no profile shot but the spine is very prominent, right through the toe
(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb450/CPye061194/97CF95E4-9A19-4D08-887D-900A666D7F2F_zpssbveebss.jpg) (http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/CPye061194/media/97CF95E4-9A19-4D08-887D-900A666D7F2F_zpssbveebss.jpg.html)
Bat 2 - spine not right down to the toe but still goes low down the bat. Concaving present
(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb450/CPye061194/23BF12A6-F7CE-4EDB-8828-089A6B986D80_zpsonby9zt6.jpg) (http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/CPye061194/media/23BF12A6-F7CE-4EDB-8828-089A6B986D80_zpsonby9zt6.jpg.html)
(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb450/CPye061194/7037CAA0-086D-4A5E-A524-45D2B2B1957B_zpsozgnbv6a.jpg) (http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/CPye061194/media/7037CAA0-086D-4A5E-A524-45D2B2B1957B_zpsozgnbv6a.jpg.html)
Bat 3 - a fairly full profile duckbill!
(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb450/CPye061194/1BE087AD-CABB-420E-A528-BA1CE75C1DE8_zpsskxr55au.jpg) (http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/CPye061194/media/1BE087AD-CABB-420E-A528-BA1CE75C1DE8_zpsskxr55au.jpg.html)
(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb450/CPye061194/CCE1B8CC-109C-4927-977A-377D42956211_zpst3rhzzco.jpg) (http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/CPye061194/media/CCE1B8CC-109C-4927-977A-377D42956211_zpst3rhzzco.jpg.html)
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Plus one looks to have a toe guard.
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got your 1000 yet?
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@liscon12 nope ;)
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The toe guard (or lack of) has been pointed out, but the TON stamp on the back of the top one set my OCD off, and if I received one like that it would do my nut in! It just looks wrong with the O not being in the centre of the bat (and made obvious by the spine!)
The duckbill one isn't dead centre but I could live with that because the spine doesn't exaggerate the problem.
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Maybe they take the lower grade clefts give them to the apprentice (or the guy who used to do the TON colouring in ;) )who then tries to copy an example in front of them, and whatever they make gets badged up as a base model in the range. It would be a good way for them to get experience so they improve without wasting materials.
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Take a gamble I guess. I'd be annoyed if I ordered a bat blind and there could be such a variance in what I received. Especially if I hadn't asked for umpteen photos.
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Cricket bats and OCD do not go together.
I have seen variations in all brands, it may be old stock re-stickered, a higher model bat graded down to fill an order, an off day with the stickering. Apart from having too many models under their own label I don't think many people realise the amount of bats they turn out for varying brands, I can understand the variances in some instances.
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They have a lot of models but essentially all one shape or variations on a theme. I can see how you can have huge variation, especially with the rate a which things get stickers as different models/grades. If buying blind however yes it would be rather irritating!
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Does that apply to GM, B3? Err no. Do handmade bats like H4L have a duckbilled toe and a spined toe on 2 different Hellfire's, no. If you buy a certain model then you expect it to come in a certain profile. If it doesn't then it isn't the bat you paid for. That's ok in the UK as you can get a refund but overseas you are probably stuffed.
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QC is not of paramount importance as we all know #nailgate
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QC is not of paramount importance as we all know #nailgate
Wrong manufacturer.
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Fair
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Does that apply to GM, B3? Err no. Do handmade bats like H4L have a duckbilled toe and a spined toe on 2 different Hellfire's, no. If you buy a certain model then you expect it to come in a certain profile. If it doesn't then it isn't the bat you paid for. That's ok in the UK as you can get a refund but overseas you are probably stuffed.
Can you find a manufacturers profile or shape description for this model?
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I'm sure there is somewhere, if I knew the exact model. Come on, its not really an excuse for knocking out the same model with different toes is it?
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Cricket bats and OCD do not go together.
I have seen variations in all brands, it may be old stock re-stickered, a higher model bat graded down to fill an order, an off day with the stickering. Apart from having too many models under their own label I don't think many people realise the amount of bats they turn out for varying brands, I can understand the variances in some instances.
Yes Skip
You are right but this is what gets to me.
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Can you find a manufacturers profile or shape description for this model?
Features of SS Master 1000 English Willow Cricket Bat :
The Master Series is a tribute to Kumar Sangakkara from SS Cricket.
Latest 2015 Design.
* Made from Selected English Willow.
* 5-7 Straight Grains.
* Rounded Handle made of Sarawak Combination Cane.
* Handle designed for Shock Absorption and Driving Power.
* SS Scale Bat Handle Grip for Control and Comfort.
* Edge Thickness 38-40 mm.
* Available in Senior/Men's Size SH.
* Bat Weight 1160 to 1230 Grams.
* SS Authenticity Hologram.
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Looks like a retailers vague description, high middle? low middle? etc
Profile: Beautifully balanced low to mid range profile with a big sweet spot, and traditional style spine for all over blade. Explosive ping and enhancing pick up for the ultimate batting experience. Mostly bats comes with full profile with minimum concaving
That is a description of another SS model on cricmarts website, the word Mostly would suggest models vary in consistency.
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Take a gamble I guess. I'd be annoyed if I ordered a bat blind and there could be such a variance in what I received. Especially if I hadn't asked for umpteen photos.
The company I bought one of these bats from (which I don't think I'm allowed to mention following previous threads) offers a full returns guarantee, and openly state/advertise this on their website.
So it may be a risk buying blind, but in this case there is a safety net.
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Not suggesting it's right, just that I have seen it before.
Just a note though, some people on here are very different to most customers, the majority want a good bat that feels nice in the hands and is good value, they don't care who made it or that 2 bats in the same model bat have a different shape toe. Cricket bats seem to get really over complicated on here.
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http://www.sscricket.com/products-range/master-1000.html (http://www.sscricket.com/products-range/master-1000.html)
Looks like a square flat toe to me. No spine in sight.
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Not suggesting it's right, just that I have seen it before.
Just a note though, some people on here are very different to most customers, the majority want a good bat that feels nice in the hands and is good value, they don't care who made it or that 2 bats in the same model bat have a different shape toe. Cricket bats seem to get really over complicated on here.
Yep I suffer from cricket bat OCD
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Not suggesting it's right, just that I have seen it before.
Just a note though, some people on here are very different to most customers, the majority want a good bat that feels nice in the hands and is good value, they don't care who made it or that 2 bats in the same model bat have a different shape toe. Cricket bats seem to get really over complicated on here.
I think the concern here is that you don't know what you'd be getting when you order SS Master or SS Gladiator or any other model. Ideally a model should have a defined shape/profile so that you know what you're getting.
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The toe guard (or lack of) has been pointed out, but the TON stamp on the back of the top one set my OCD off, and if I received one like that it would do my nut in! It just looks wrong with the O not being in the centre of the bat (and made obvious by the spine!)
The duckbill one isn't dead centre but I could live with that because the spine doesn't exaggerate the problem.
That really is frustrating.
Its pretty inexcusable when you have the spine to reference when applying the stamp.
I think my 9 year old could easily perform this task.
I've not examined an ss bat close up but I presume that is a permanent stamp and not a sticker, surely all the more reason to take care when applying.
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I agree, SS though don't have the amount of shapes to match the amount of models so I can see how it happens, again not saying it's right.
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I think the concern here is that you don't know what you'd be getting when you order SS Master or SS Gladiator or any other model. Ideally a model should have a defined shape/profile so that you know what you're getting.
I think with the higher grade models there is better consistency, but that is why when ordering from abroad you should always asks for photos from several angles, and dimensions so you can get a good idea of the shape etc. Of course you cant actually get it in your hands till it arrives so there is still a risk that it may not feel right, but then you can always put it on ebay :)
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I think with the higher grade models there is better consistency, but that is why when ordering from abroad you should always asks for photos from several angles, and dimensions so you can get a good idea of the shape etc. Of course you cant actually get it in your hands till it arrives so there is still a risk that it may not feel right, but then you can always put it on ebay :)
I agree. the expensive ones are very consistent in profile, finish, pickup and ping. Never had a problem.
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Recently got two SS Master 5000 and they are different in shape....One has the chunky toe and the other one has tiny but tiny ones toe is the most responsive i have ever.
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Recently got two SS Master 5000 and they are different in shape....One has the chunky toe and the other one has tiny but tiny ones toe is the most responsive i have ever.
Pics ??
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