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General Cricket => Latest Matches => Topic started by: Alvaro on April 28, 2015, 12:46:55 PM
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Taylor (capt), Ansari, Bairstow, Billings, Bresnan, Finn, Gregory, Hales, Roy, Vince, Willey
Hmmm - not much respect shown to Ireland there.
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Taylor (capt), Ansari, Bairstow, Billings, Bresnan, Finn, Gregory, Hales, Roy, Vince, Willey
Hmmm - not much respect shown to Ireland there.
bet Ireland are impressed facing our (near) 2nd XI. Serves them right if Ireland stuff them.
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Ireland, who performed conspicuously better than England in Australia and New Zealand, may infer more second-class treatment at the selection of such an experimental side but, after the grim showing in 50-over cricket over the winter, England's fans should find plenty to be enthusiastic about among the group.
Ansari, who opens the batting for Surrey in Championship cricket, bowls slow left-arm and could fulfil the spinner's role - although it is understood England plan to play Rashid. Billings, who scored 458 runs at an average of more than 100 and a strike rate of 154.20, will compete with Bairstow for the gloves, but either could still play as a specialist batsman.
Left-arm seamer Willey has been tipped for an England call-up since starring on T20 Finals Day in 2013, when he scored 60 from 27 balls and then took a hat-trick to help Northamptonshire to an unexpected triumph.
Finn and Bresnan - who has begun the season in good form for Yorkshire after making a change to his action - will lead an otherwise inexperienced attack. Boyd Rankin's good form for Warwickshire has been offset by the need for an injection on a back injury, while Nottinghamshire left-armer Harry Gurney is also injured.
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Or a realisation to the fact that the World Cup squad was so far from the modern way of playing they needed to do something different.
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I wouldn't be that generous. I bet they're hoping for rain and then it will back to the tried and tested....
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Ireland, who performed conspicuously better than England in Australia and New Zealand, may infer more second-class treatment at the selection of such an experimental side but, after the grim showing in 50-over cricket over the winter, England's fans should find plenty to be enthusiastic about among the group.
Ansari, who opens the batting for Surrey in Championship cricket, bowls slow left-arm and could fulfil the spinner's role - although it is understood England plan to play Rashid. Billings, who scored 458 runs at an average of more than 100 and a strike rate of 154.20, will compete with Bairstow for the gloves, but either could still play as a specialist batsman.
Left-arm seamer Willey has been tipped for an England call-up since starring on T20 Finals Day in 2013, when he scored 60 from 27 balls and then took a hat-trick to help Northamptonshire to an unexpected triumph.
Finn and Bresnan - who has begun the season in good form for Yorkshire after making a change to his action - will lead an otherwise inexperienced attack. Boyd Rankin's good form for Warwickshire has been offset by the need for an injection on a back injury, while Nottinghamshire left-armer Harry Gurney is also injured.
thanks for that I was going to have to cricinfo Ansari one day stats, but no need he's doing great in 4 day cricket. Obvious selection. Who's Gregory?
Vince, Hales, Roy, Taylor, Billings I get. The rest I'm not sure about
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Willey is a left armer with bags of talent and a distinct dislike for Jade Dernbach = plus
Gregory is the workhorse at Somerset. A bit Trego like as a bowler, without the body art. Bats fairly well.
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Stokes, Jordan, Ali and possibly Ballance to be added also.
Edit - forgot Rashid too
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Not sure which way I lean on this one.
On the one had it does look like a complete re-imagining of teh squad & a chance to try out something different, on the other it's a bit 'who' and lacking experience etc.
But as mentioned above - after the WC debacle, maybe its what we need.
Think Taylor could be good as capt - he looks good and incontrol when I've seen him at Notts and he has done it for the Lions for a few years.
Maybe this is being treated more as a audition and a rebuilding. I can understand the need to rest anderson, root et al with the 17 test summer going to be knackering.
Still, I think (hope) that there is a little extra motivation in Ireland's play given the complete change presented by Eng.
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Willey is a left armer with bags of talent and a distinct dislike for Jade Dernbach = plus
Gregory is the workhorse at Somerset. A bit Trego like as a bowler, without the body art. Bats fairly well.
I thought Willey had faded a bit from England recognition, but if he's not a fan of Jade then it's a start. Gregory sounds like its a squad pick (hopefully). Glad to see we might be saved by Stokes, Jordan in the bowling department (not). At least both of them hit a long ball.
Ballance after a stellar world cup could be back (though he was mucked around).
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Taylor (capt)- Not a bad call, hopefully a long term replacement for Eoin.
Ansari - ???
Bairstow - Has experience and may force his way back into the full side.
Billings - the future, blood him early!
Bresnan, - get him back in the Test side ahead of Jordan too!
Finn - Sort of get it, needs to get beck to his best.
Gregory - ???
Hales - Should get a run in the ODI side (and the Test side in my opinion!) A potential superstar.
Roy - Has scored heavily in domestic cricket, deserves a go.
Vince - about time! (yes, I'm a Hampshire fan).
Willey - been call for his call up since T20 finals day 2013. It probably would've happened sooner if it weren't for injuries.
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Gregory is a decent quick - look up his stats - he will do well.
Ansari - gun fielder, decent bat and decent bowler - being picked as he is viewed as a FEC. (both descriptions)
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Gregory is a decent quick - look up his stats - he will do well.
Ansari - gun fielder, decent bat and decent bowler - being picked as he is viewed as a FEC. (both descriptions)
Are you Peter Moores in discugise?!?!
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Well that's a good way to kill a thread...
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I like it. What I don't like is that even if these guys do well I can guarantee the lot of them will be dropped for the next ODI.
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I like it. What I don't like is that even if these guys do well I can guarantee the lot of them will be dropped for the next ODI.
Sad but true.
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I'm surprised how many people don't know who Ansari is, I've known of him for at least 3 years now but I would have never considered him as England material but hopefully he'll prove us all wrong.
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Got Pieterson out playing for Cambridge and then got into the 1st team for Surrey on the back of that. Hasn't really set the world alight since but his tweakers are decent. Also opened in every form for Surrey I believe so could be one of a few spinning all rounders we need to invest in heavily, Borthwick would've been a better pick in my opinion.
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Jeeeez Australia have some good quicks on their books.Cummins looks the real deal,I know he's been injured but surely he'd walk into England's side?
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None of the England side for the last test will play - the logistics are a nightmare. I suspect the final line up will be something like:
Roy
Hales
Taylor
Vince
Bairstow
Billings
Rashid
Bresnan
?
Finn
Willey
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Wood will be your question mark.
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None of the England side for the last test will play - the logistics are a nightmare. I suspect the final line up will be something like:
Roy
Hales
Taylor
Vince
Bairstow
Billings
Rashid
Bresnan
?
Finn
Willey
Looks an okay side bit of a backward step with Bresnan and Bairstow.
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None of the England side for the last test will play - the logistics are a nightmare. I suspect the final line up will be something like:
Roy
Hales
Taylor
Vince
Bairstow
Billings
Rashid
Bresnan
?
Finn
Willey
I'd imagine Willey will be up the order too, at least above ?
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Willey above Bresnan I'd expect, quite possibly Rashid as well. Vince and Taylor may also perhaps switch given it would put them both closer to their county roles, however if there's the view of Taylor at number 3 for England perhaps not.
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im surprised by lewis gregory's selection. i do like the guy and have watched him a few times as a somerset supporter. he always seems to get wickets can be a bit expensive. also gives the ball a good whack and should score some handy lower order runs.
dont expect him to play though
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Wood may well be "the pick" though I heard a rumour he might be playing the test in Barbados. If so, I'd quite like to see them play Ansari - he isn't "ready" now but he's a tidy one day spinner, good bat (especially as a late overs scamperer) and decent fielder. It gives him incentive to work at it...
Bresnan I'll defend - fit for the first time in nearly four years he's bowling really well for Yorkshire and is always a good batting option down t'order. Also, unlike Finn and Willey, he controls the white ball without resorting to side seam.
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Looks decent, what's happened to Overton these days though?
For all you Footitt fans - saw him bowling at Glos for a few overs in the evening session today, looked rrrrrrrapid from behind the keeper, plus moved it. Certainly a cut above most of the rest of div 2!
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People need to look at when this game is being played and then think why some of the current test squad aren't in it....
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Morgan?
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Morgan?
Off slogging in India ;)
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Morgan?
Ipl?
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Off slogging in India ;)
Ah yes, that's still going on. Has he done any good?
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Ah yes, that's still going on. Has he done any good?
Bopara keeping him out the side.
Steyn and Williamson can't get a gig. So can't see morgan playing.
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Bopara keeping him out the side.
Steyn and Williamson can't get a gig. So can't see morgan playing.
You couldn't make it up -that's awkward for the selectors - "Eoin go get some IPL experience, we need to know what this biffing's all about..." "Er, can't get a game, sorry, the guy you left out in the WC is keeping me out..." Still, you join the circus, you can expect the unexpected.
Second string XI or not, at least we're giving some new guys a go. I genuinely do think with the ODI team we will see big sustained change
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Would have thought Morgan might have said since I'm warming the bench here at the ipl, let me go captain my side for one game and come back :-[
The game's probably going to be washed out anyway
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Do you think Morgan gives two hoots?
Many journos said he had probably played his last ODI at the World Cup.
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Do you think Morgan gives two hoots?
Many journos said he had probably played his last ODI at the World Cup.
At 28?. Most batsman get better with age and he's potentially got another 7 years+ of top level cricket.
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You couldn't make it up -that's awkward for the selectors - "Eoin go get some IPL experience, we need to know what this biffing's all about..." "Er, can't get a game, sorry, the guy you left out in the WC is keeping me out..." Still, you join the circus, you can expect the unexpected.
Second string XI or not, at least we're giving some new guys a go. I genuinely do think with the ODI team we will see big sustained change
indeed it's tricky, not many players from England actually get picked for the IPL, KP was one of them, Bopara sometimes....Morgan has been picked for a while but not played so much. To be fair to Morgan, he wants to earn as much as he can from the IPL, any sport can be a short career....
For what it's worth i'm delighted England are moving forward, I reckon the ECB will back Morgan long term to have the new guys in and build for the next World Cup. He(morgan) has been in a shocking run of form but on his day he can be devastating and def plays the 'modern' game
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At 28?. Most batsman get better with age and he's potentially got another 7 years+ of top level cricket.
His form has been wretched. Stranger things have happened.
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Gregory is very good. Will probably play for eng long term but needs aanother full season at Somerset.
Bowls deceptively quick, very full, and very straight. Not something England do too much. Hits his Yorker well too At the death.
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Gregory is very good. Will probably play for eng long term but needs aanother full season at Somerset.
Bowls deceptively quick, very full, and very straight. Not something England do too much. Hits his Yorker well too At the death.
What's the betting that in 18 months he will be bowling back of a length, wide of off stump?
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sadly, I don't even think you're joking...
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As long as he's not earmaked for THE ENFORCER role..
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Don't know much about the others but seen a bit of Billings and Ansari when watching kent & surrey. Sent think Ansari would get a go but a decent bat and not a bad bowler plus being gun in the field so he does cover all bases and has been a regular for Surrey since a very early age I believe.
Billings can be a game changer and his keeping has come on as well, could be a threat to butler in all forms moving forward and I personally have championed him for a while, probably on part to being a kent fan lol.
But in any case no 11 could do worse than the tried and tested from the WC, would love to see 5-6 of these play regularly moving forward with the addition of the quality and experienced players who can play the modern way sun h as butler, Bopara who I have always liked as a player, Morgan, Root etc hopefully some positives from Engkand in the short format over the next 18 months or so
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The thing to remember is, if we are going to experiment with youngsters like these (and others such as Overton, Wood, Bell-Drummond etc) you have to accept that there will be bumps in the road.
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The thing to remember is, if we are going to experiment with youngsters like these (and others such as Overton, Wood, Bell-Drummond etc) you have to accept that there will be bumps in the road.
I think most England fans would accept the bumps in the road from a young potential filled squad than see the same people making the same mistakes.