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General Cricket => Your Cricket => Topic started by: L21 on June 15, 2015, 11:57:21 AM
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Yes, this subject has probably been done to death on this forum and I couldn't find a thread within the first 13 pages that I could contribute to.
So.....
The last two weeks have seen two strange occurrences of batsmen walking. Both weeks, it has been blowing an absolute hoolie in games.
Week 1, Batsmen goes big, clean nick, into the gloves and the batsmen walks. As the team joins together, it is apparent that only the W/K and 1st Slip heard the noise and no one else understood the appeal, non facing bat and umpire included.
Week 2, Batsmen tries to drive, there is a noise, into the gloves, W/K semi appeals but then no one else joins in, Batsmen has already started walking, No one really sure what has happened. At tea, batsmen said he clearly nicked it and didn't understand why there was no appeal for from Bowler, W/K or fielders.
On both these occasions, the umpire has stated he would not of given it out as he did not hear it.
Fantastic sportsmanship from both bats but it has been strange to occur twice in a week and also the fact both batsmen could have just hung around.
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Good on them. I always walk and I can't stand those who don't. Too often 'cheating' spoils a good game. those who walk give their team a good reputation. Finally, if you gain a reputation as a walker you won't be triggered when a delivery clips your pads. Hopefully,
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I have stopped walking after being given out numerous times hitting the ball into my pads and been adjudged LBW. The fielding side have commented on how much bat was involved as i'm trudging off. Sportsmanship goes both ways.
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I'm an instinctive walker. I don't even look at the umpire if I know I've hit it, my first reaction is always to just turn and walk off before I even have a chance of considering to stand my ground.
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If I know I've hit it then I walk. Usually after throwing my head back and making it obvious I've hit it :-[
If I'm not sure (e.g there was a bit of floor/pad on bat involved) I'll let the umpire decide.
I've found the best way to avoid dodgy decisions is to either get bowled or caught at cow corner, nothing to moan about and only yourself to blame that way ;)
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Was told a long time ago that it's the umpires job to give decisions
I have walked when it's been blatant to me, but wouldn't if not
Our captain called a lad back on Saturday from being given lbw, as the keeper said he'd hit it.
The guy was out soon after but, we found that the umpire who had made the decision would now not give anything
Lesson learnt
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This walking debate makes me laugh a bit. Not walking is part of cricket and should be got over. Don Bradman never ever walked, yet Aussies moan about players that don't.
Some walk, some don't, some do it on occasion. ;)
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What Aussies moan about it? Broad cops some stick but that's only because he is a massive tosspot. Most Aussies don't care because we weren't taught too growing up.
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When did you all grow up - I must have missed it :)
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I walk, and I tell the kids at the club that they should walk too.
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When did you all grow up - I must have missed it :)
Australia 1970's We were beaten for less than walking!
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I used to walk but stopped doing so as last season the oppositions Aussie wicketkeeper said to me the umpire had given me out LBW so without looking for the umpires finger I walked off at the end of the match I told the umpire i had hit the ball he replied I know i couldn't understand why you walked.
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I'm an instinctive walker. I don't even look at the umpire if I know I've hit it, my first reaction is always to just turn and walk off before I even have a chance of considering to stand my ground.
Exactly the same as me.
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We had the opposite on Sunday. Wide ball outside 5th stump, batsman swings, edges, big noise, keeper takes it. Everyone celebrates, batsman stands there. Umpire unmoved...we could all hear it and see it.
If it's an obvious nick you should walk in my opinion. If any doubt then leave it to the umpire. But considering the level of most umpires you should be honest.
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I don't walk. I even try and sway the umpire's into not giving it, i.e. tapping my bat if its hit my pad and the fielders are appealing. Don't very often edge it, but there was one occasion where I might have edged it, I didn't walk and the umpire didn't give me.
At the end of the day, it's not my decision to give myself out, however unsportsmanlike that may be.
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stand your ground.
I've never ever been called back by the oppostion yet when ive been given out and it wasnt .......... and they blatantly knew it.
You know the ones, ooh that was dodgy, very high and going down leg. Or that hit his thigh pad not his glove etc etc etc
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I was always a walker and then a few years ago I went for a big drive, got what I thought was a huge nick which flew low to first slip who dived behind the keeper to take the catch. As I didn't see the ball carry I decided to not walk much to the dismay of the fielding team. I spoke to the umpire about it after the game and he said it was a bump ball. I would have walked had I seen it carry. From then on I've always just let the umpire decide my fate
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The opportunity to walk for a nick doesn't really occur for me.
A) I've smashed the edge with it and it's gone to gully / top-edged to point
B) It's actually missed both edges, and the middle, and re-arranged my furniture
plus - I'm usually swinging from too close to square leg to ever be given out LBW
I'd like the chance of a dignified walk off after getting the faintest of nicks.
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I don't walk unless I have middled it to slip or something obvious. You get plenty of rough decisions in your cricketing career so why make things worse? If you can get away if the odd fine edge or brushed glove then so be it. The umpire can still give you out so I'm happy to let him decide. As others have said, the oppo rarely call you back from an LBW where you have smashed it off the middle of the bat!
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I never walk, the umpires are there to decide if i'm out or not and most of the time i'm perfectly happy to leave it to them.
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I probably wouldn't walk if we had dedicated umpires but sadly in my league your team mates have to umpire.. Does not help with LBW decisions either :(
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I'll walk if it's gone to anyone not the keeper :')
Seeming though this season I've been out LBW when I hit it, and out LBW when the ball missed me (and the leg stump)I guess it's no fate but what we make B)
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I used to wander off, especially when it was our own umpires, but now theres no way I'd walk off and I don't feel the slightest bit guilty about it, thats what we pay the umpires for! I've had my fair share of bad ones, so if I can get away with it I will!
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Always walk, every single time regardless of the game or situation. I have rough decisions go against me down to poor sportsmanship by the opps and poor umpiring. They choose to play in that way then so be it, at least I know I play honest and fairly. At the end of the day it's amateur cricket., means nothing whether you are in the top leave or the bottom.. You aren't a pro and necer will be so stop pretending and just play honestly and fairly
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I've been given some doozies in the past, so I don't walk. I probably look guilty as if I hit it, but I just walk to the side as if I'm waiting for the next ball (handy if lbw shout as the umpire won't get to have a good look where I was). We get umpires every week in Grade cricket in Brisbane and they are paid to do it, so I let them do their job. Ends up equalling out as you'll get some good ones and some bad ones.
Best one I can remember is a few years back when I was on 20 or 30 odd I clearly knicked it straight to the keeper who was standing up to the spinner. No one except the keeper appealed, but even then, he wasn't convinced himself and was only half hearted. Don't know how he could of thought I missed it when he was so close. Ended up getting 98 after around 5 hours of batting that day, so it ended up catching up with me haha.
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Neutral umpires - stand your ground
Teammates umpiring - walk if you know you were out.
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I always walk always have. Have walked for the finest of nicks. Once the stumper stumped me as I was walking to the pavilion, and even argued after the game that it should be a stumping in the book, it was that fine a nic!
But I still get bad decisions, had one of the thigh and ump was straight up, and ump Whl knows I walk too, through lots of games previously.
He knew a looked pissed and asked after, I said i didn't and he apologised.
3 weeks later I could have sworn I was plumb lbw, but he said no to the fielding teams dismay.... Got to the other end later that over and he smiled at me and said "we even now"
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Everyone in my team walks (or claims to at least) apart from our captain. We really don't like it but he doesn't care. This last weekend we didn't have neutral umpires so we did it ourselves. Our captain was given out caught behind and judging by his ridiculous protests on his way back he probably didn't hit it. I don't think our umpire would have given anyone else out who stood their ground as he knows we all walk.
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Everyone in my team walks (or claims to at least) apart from our captain. We really don't like it but he doesn't care. This last weekend we didn't have neutral umpires so we did it ourselves. Our captain was given out caught behind and judging by his ridiculous protests on his way back he probably didn't hit it. I don't think our umpire would have given anyone else out who stood their ground as he knows we all walk.
Reactions are meaningless! I gave an Oscar winning rendition of "I got nowhere near that, he's triggered me big time" when I got caught on the deep backward square boundary! ;)
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I walked on Saturday the wicket had turn and bounce and the opposition knew it and opened the bowling with spin got faint outside edge to the keeper playing a foreward defensive using a full size bat andi am still wondering if I had used my Harrow weather I would have nicked it. It's back to my harrow this Saturday...
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Out of principle I don't walk. I work on the basis that if,100% of the time I leave it to the umpire, he will be wrong in my favour about 10% of the time and wrong in the oppos favour about the same amount. The remainder. Will be valid decisions. It's what the umpire is there for.
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Out of principle I don't walk. I work on the basis that if,100% of the time I leave it to the umpire, he will be wrong in my favour about 10% of the time and wrong in the oppos favour about the same amount. The remainder. Will be valid decisions. It's what the umpire is there for.
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I hope you don't snick one and not walk in our LMS meeting, I'll be the one behind the stumps with steam coming out of my ears at you.