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Title: M Vijay fined for 'illegal' logo on bat
Post by: mattw on June 16, 2015, 03:54:39 PM
http://www.espncricinfo.com/bangladesh-v-india-2015/content/story/888279.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/bangladesh-v-india-2015/content/story/888279.html)

Can someone explain this properly?

So does this mean that stamps/stickers cannot be on the bottom half of the edges of the bat?



Title: Re: M Vijay fined for 'illegal' logo on bat
Post by: csnew on June 16, 2015, 04:04:06 PM
explains why GN have started stamping players bats higher
Title: Re: M Vijay fined for 'illegal' logo on bat
Post by: mattw on June 16, 2015, 04:07:21 PM
explains why GN have started stamping players bats higher

have you got any link to this?
Title: Re: M Vijay fined for 'illegal' logo on bat
Post by: csnew on June 16, 2015, 04:10:55 PM
(http://www.espncricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/215500/215503.jpg)

(http://www.espncricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/215500/215599.jpg)
Title: Re: M Vijay fined for 'illegal' logo on bat
Post by: mo_town on June 16, 2015, 04:20:50 PM
Whats the logic behind this new rule? Makes no sense to me..
Title: Re: M Vijay fined for 'illegal' logo on bat
Post by: mattw on June 16, 2015, 04:22:18 PM
Ah right,

Seems very strange to me, I don't really understand why this is an issue?
Title: Re: M Vijay fined for 'illegal' logo on bat
Post by: procricket on June 16, 2015, 04:22:59 PM
([url]http://www.espncricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/215500/215503.jpg[/url])

([url]http://www.espncricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/215500/215599.jpg[/url])


I could be wrong but i do beleive the higher up branding on GN signifies made in Australia mate and the middle of the road brand uk(i could be wrong)

Infact i'm wrong think this was how it was but has changed since as people have said
Title: Re: M Vijay fined for 'illegal' logo on bat
Post by: Neon Cricket on June 16, 2015, 04:31:12 PM
I think it's meant to be due to hotspot lighting up the stickers thus making it harder to spot edges

Either way, for the ICC to fine 25% of a match fee for something so trivial like a misplaced sticker yet ignore the fundamental issues surrounding their whole set up just shows how clueless they actually are...
Title: Re: M Vijay fined for 'illegal' logo on bat
Post by: golden duck on June 16, 2015, 05:36:17 PM
I think it's meant to be due to hotspot lighting up the stickers thus making it harder to spot edges

Either way, for the ICC to fine 25% of a match fee for something so trivial like a misplaced sticker yet ignore the fundamental issues surrounding their whole set up just shows how clueless they actually are...

Because they don't get edges higher up?   ;)

I'll admit I thought the same thing, but...
Title: Re: M Vijay fined for 'illegal' logo on bat
Post by: dilscoop on June 16, 2015, 05:37:10 PM
why does it matter where the logo is ?
Title: Re: M Vijay fined for 'illegal' logo on bat
Post by: mattw on June 16, 2015, 06:13:42 PM
I can't understand a logo similar to GN's - but I do understand it when batsmen are covering up the SS/Indian logos on their bats with different types of tape - which could have a negative effect on hotspot.
Title: Re: M Vijay fined for 'illegal' logo on bat
Post by: TBONTB on June 16, 2015, 08:51:23 PM
Yeh it will be hotspot related. Even if it has a negligible effect, why not just ban it, no harm done really and it might help an umpire out
Title: Re: M Vijay fined for 'illegal' logo on bat
Post by: addidasf55 on June 16, 2015, 10:37:46 PM
What about scuff sheets then? ???
Title: Re: M Vijay fined for 'illegal' logo on bat
Post by: mattw on June 17, 2015, 08:52:49 AM
What about scuff sheets then? ???

Good point well made, surely you can get a certain substance to rub on a scuff sheet to stop hotspot showing up.
Title: Re: M Vijay fined for 'illegal' logo on bat
Post by: liscon12 on June 17, 2015, 09:15:04 AM
Oh no we're not having this conversation again are we haha  ;)
Title: Re: M Vijay fined for 'illegal' logo on bat
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on June 17, 2015, 09:21:18 AM
Good point well made, surely you can get a certain substance to rub on a scuff sheet to stop hotspot showing up.

Wasn't there a big hoo-ha about Vaseline down the edge of players bats a few years ago?
Title: Re: M Vijay fined for 'illegal' logo on bat
Post by: ppccopener on June 17, 2015, 09:29:46 AM
India v England series, some reports never proved some of the Indian players used Vaseline to stop hotspot showing up on tiny nicks behind.

Never proved and probably a load of rubbish started by Michael Vaughan!!! :)
Title: Re: M Vijay fined for 'illegal' logo on bat
Post by: eddiec on June 17, 2015, 09:58:09 AM
I couldn't help notice that the old rule was the stickers could cover no more than 50% of the edges. Maybe the reason why all the manufacturers went for massive edges in recent years was to maximise advertising space?
Title: Re: M Vijay fined for 'illegal' logo on bat
Post by: addidasf55 on June 17, 2015, 02:51:33 PM
Good point well made, surely you can get a certain substance to rub on a scuff sheet to stop hotspot showing up.
A bit of infrared reflective tape on the edges and you're sorted?
 :-[
Title: Re: M Vijay fined for 'illegal' logo on bat
Post by: liscon12 on June 17, 2015, 03:09:04 PM
I suppose this only effects top level players, the bats us guys get will still have the branding on the edges as there's no need to changing to satisfy a hand full of players?
Title: Re: M Vijay fined for 'illegal' logo on bat
Post by: peristocle on June 18, 2015, 09:11:14 AM


So no more SS TON branding?
Title: Re: M Vijay fined for 'illegal' logo on bat
Post by: liscon12 on June 18, 2015, 09:17:37 AM

So no more SS TON branding?

Only on the Pro's bat I would imagine. Can't see SS moving their logo as it would mean changing the machine they use to burn in the branding as the edges are thinner further up the bat, also they would be loosing valuable advertising if they were to use a smaller TON logo.
Title: Re: M Vijay fined for 'illegal' logo on bat
Post by: Buzz on June 18, 2015, 09:19:46 AM
Well at least we will have a better way of knowing a bat is a genuine international's bat than sharpie writing on the toe...
Title: Re: M Vijay fined for 'illegal' logo on bat
Post by: i12breakfree on June 18, 2015, 12:48:41 PM
Well at least we will have a better way of knowing a bat is a genuine international's bat than sharpie writing on the toe...

or they can use the Sharpie for the edge branding ;)
Title: Re: M Vijay fined for 'illegal' logo on bat
Post by: Vitas Cricket on June 18, 2015, 01:01:01 PM
The new ICC regs will explain why Root moved the GM DXM sticker up his bat then:

([url]http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb450/CPye061194/6F346A38-A1CB-4686-81DD-94F226940A4D_zps38hfix3j.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/CPye061194/media/6F346A38-A1CB-4686-81DD-94F226940A4D_zps38hfix3j.jpg.html[/url])

 ([url]http://i87.photobucket.com/albums/k126/Liam_Mulholland/joe_root_enland_photo_story_june_9_2015%201.png_zps70gpf8lu.jpeg[/url]) ([url]http://s87.photobucket.com/user/Liam_Mulholland/media/joe_root_enland_photo_story_june_9_2015%201.png_zps70gpf8lu.jpeg.html[/url])


More importantly, why he taped over the area leading everyone to speculate he was covering TON stamps.
Title: Re: M Vijay fined for 'illegal' logo on bat
Post by: ajmw89 on June 18, 2015, 02:24:40 PM
Probably pulled the sticker up and made a hash of it...
Title: Re: M Vijay fined for 'illegal' logo on bat
Post by: Perkins17 on June 18, 2015, 06:26:55 PM
More importantly, why he taped over the area leading everyone to speculate he was covering TON stamps.

With the clamp down on clause 19.43 of the ICC's Clothing and Equipment Rules and Regulationon All of the County and International GM bats going forward will leave the factory like Joe's bat
(http://cache2.asset-cache.net/gc/477491122-joe-root-of-england-celebrates-reaching-his-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QZEtvb8WuDPI2%2fXNtA0W6FBP0bshrQN%2fOecUGm4ZxGapzjoc4YECzU4OkyENacyQMw%3d%3d)
I think he just needs to tape the middle up with all those runs he's scoring  ;)