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General Cricket => Your Cricket => Umpires => Topic started by: KarlPennington on August 10, 2015, 03:33:09 PM
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This weekend I got out 'hit wicket' for the first time. The bowler bowled short and down the leg side, I tried to open up my body to cash in on the poor delivery unfortunately my heel caught the base of leg stump. I set off running for the single as the keeper had missed the ball and as I was doing so it dawned on me what had happened... I carried on running to the pavillion :D
So a few questions in this scenario - Firstly, If the ball had been signaled a wide can you still be out 'hit wicket?' Or does the fact you have hit your wicket mean the ball cannot be a wide similar to if you have hit the ball? The rules state you cannot be out 'hit wicket' from a no ball but no mention of a wide ball.
Secondly at lunch a team mate informed me because there was no appeal from the opposition I could have picked the bails up re-set the wicket and carried on batting, surely this isn't true right? If it is true IE there has to be an appeal before the umpire can make a decision would it then be against the spirit of cricket not to 'walk'
We had a good result yesterday and I did OK so I'm not feeling hard done too, I'm just curious that's all..
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You can be out off a wide, you can be stumped off a wide, you only can't get caught, bowled or LBW off a wide because those things happening mean it wasn't wide.
Yeah they need to appeal, yeah it wouldn't be too honest to hang around. If they don't think it was you who hit it though, you'd get away with it.
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8. Out from a Wide
When Wide ball has been called, neither batsman shall be out under any of the Laws except 35 (Hit wicket), 37 (Obstructing the field), 38 (Run out) or 39 (Stumped).
https://www.lords.org/mcc/laws-of-cricket/laws/law-25-wide-ball/ (https://www.lords.org/mcc/laws-of-cricket/laws/law-25-wide-ball/)
also
http://www.lords.org/news/our-blogs/the-laws-blogs/the-laws-blog/when-do-you-need-to-appeal/ (http://www.lords.org/news/our-blogs/the-laws-blogs/the-laws-blog/when-do-you-need-to-appeal/)
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Secondly at lunch a team mate informed me because there was no appeal from the opposition I could have picked the bails up re-set the wicket and carried on batting, surely this isn't true right? If it is true IE there has to be an appeal before the umpire can make a decision would it then be against the spirit of cricket not to 'walk'
Yeah they need to appeal, yeah it wouldn't be too honest to hang around. If they don't think it was you who hit it though, you'd get away with it.
Is this the same if I get bowled? If nobody appeals next time I'm standing there :D
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This weekend I got out 'hit wicket' for the first time. The bowler bowled short and down the leg side, I tried to open up my body to cash in on the poor delivery unfortunately my heel caught the base of leg stump. I set off running for the single as the keeper had missed the ball and as I was doing so it dawned on me what had happened... I carried on running to the pavillion :D
So a few questions in this scenario - Firstly, If the ball had been signaled a wide can you still be out 'hit wicket?' Or does the fact you have hit your wicket mean the ball cannot be a wide similar to if you have hit the ball? The rules state you cannot be out 'hit wicket' from a no ball but no mention of a wide ball.
Secondly at lunch a team mate informed me because there was no appeal from the opposition I could have picked the bails up re-set the wicket and carried on batting, surely this isn't true right? If it is true IE there has to be an appeal before the umpire can make a decision would it then be against the spirit of cricket not to 'walk'
We had a good result yesterday and I did OK so I'm not feeling hard done too, I'm just curious that's all..
Yes you can continue with your innings if there's no appeal pretty certian Dominic Cork did in a test match and he replaced the bails.
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Is this the same if I get bowled? If nobody appeals next time I'm standing there :D
I think that's when you get the special middle-finger "out" signal from the umpire.
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Is this the same if I get bowled? If nobody appeals next time I'm standing there :D
Yes
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Yes you can continue with your innings if there's no appeal pretty certian Dominic Cork did in a test match and he replaced the bails.
Good knowledge, I'm going to find this on t'internet.
In theory does there need to be an appeal if you are bowled?? As per the laws of the game?
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From the Independent about the Cork incident:-
Not that it seems too much of a strain. Without wishing to fan flames hardly yet lit, he might just share one key element of a cricketer's make- up with that Question of Sport chap - luck. Before he had added to his overnight three yesterday, Cork dispatched the fifth ball of the first over from Courtney Walsh towards the extra-cover boundary. He then bounded off, but, in doing so, it was soon to emerge, dislodged his leg stump bail. He and Mike Watkinson ran four while the West Indies concentrated on retrieving the ball. The bail was on the floor by the stumps, significant but unnoticed. If Cork spotted it he wasn't saying and it was only as Walsh prepared to bowl again that the umpire Dickie Bird at the bowler's end spotted the errant bail. As it was being replaced, the West Indian captain Richie Richardson appealed, though nobody noticed that either. The umpire Cyril Mitchley turned it down without recourse to the third umpire. "I didn't realise what had gone on," Cork said later. "After we'd run four, I saw the bail on the ground and thought Junior Murray knocked it off."