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Title: Opinions Please
Post by: london777 on August 25, 2015, 10:39:05 AM
Hi guys,

Just wanted some opinions/experiences relating to very light weight bats. This season I used a bat which weighed around 2:9 but the pick up wasn't to my liking at all- and adding an additional balanced it out but made it heavier. So for next season I'm looking for an adult bat, short handle which weighs around 2:6 with 2 grips (preferably 1 ounce each, I have the old gray nicolls coil ones which are about an ounce or just over) (looking for bat speed). My only issue is that I'm a bit worried that a 2:6 won't "ping enough" and I'll end up with a light plank.

Any opinions, experiences, advice re light bats appreciated, thanks
Title: Re: Opinions Please
Post by: london777 on August 25, 2015, 10:43:02 AM
I remember Michael Atherton saying that Azharuddin used a 2:4!!!!!!!
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Post by: Vitas Cricket on August 25, 2015, 10:44:24 AM
2'6 with 2 grips is really pushing it for an adult bat.

If you have some extremely lightweight grips already then maybe this will interest you:

http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=35334.0 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=35334.0)
Title: Re: Opinions Please
Post by: london777 on August 25, 2015, 10:46:48 AM
Thanks Jake
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Post by: Giraffe208 on August 25, 2015, 10:47:42 AM
From my experience, I had a light Newbery at 2lb6.5. Ping was brilliant and on a quick outfield didnt make much difference compared to a 2lb 10 now. The difference when hitting in the air was that a heavier bat creates more momentum and i dont have to swing as hard to achieve the same result
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Post by: RF on August 25, 2015, 11:02:57 AM
My match bat is 2lb 8oz and doesnt look big at all but it performs better than my other heavier bats because it's pressed really well (hard).

Buy one from a brand that presses their own clefts (and has a reputation for doing it well).

Otherwise try to get hold of a low density cleft so you can have a light weight but large bat (these can be expensive though).
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Post by: london777 on August 25, 2015, 11:08:47 AM
thanks guys
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Post by: Gurujames on August 25, 2015, 11:52:55 AM
I have bats from 2.6 through to 2.12 and in my view there is no correlation between the size of the bat and its performance. One of my 2.6 bats is a Salix 'The Edge' which is a long handle/short blade. It has a traditional shape and pings as well as anything else. My other. 2.6 is an old SS Turbo, it's performance is exceptional.The thing about modern bats is that there seems to be a psychological thing about looking down and seeing something big in your hands..... Ooh er missus. This does not necessarily equal performance.
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Post by: Gingerbusiness on August 25, 2015, 11:55:59 AM
I have bats from 2.6 through to 2.12 and in my view there is no correlation between the size of the bat and its performance. One of my 2.6 bats is a Salix 'The Edge' which is a long handle/short blade. It has a traditional shape and pings as well as anything else. My other. 2.6 is an old SS Turbo, it's performance is exceptional.The thing about modern bats is that there seems to be a psychological thing about looking down and seeing something big in your hands..... Ooh er missus. This does not necessarily equal performance.

Rule for life...
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Post by: Topgun on August 25, 2015, 12:09:29 PM
2.4???? Never heard of it. probably because i live in Australia :P
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Post by: ProWannabe88 on August 25, 2015, 12:49:03 PM
from personal experience it comes down to confidence when playing the lustier or more aggressive shots. I have used a lot of different weights and always seem to come back to 2.9/2.10, simply because it feels comfortable to play all varieties of shots. I am quite an aggressive batter though so a light touch players bat doesn't really suit my game.

Its all down to personal preference and what you feel most comfortable with. There's no worse feeling than being out in the middle with something you aren't confident using - for whatever reason. if you are struggling to play certain shots then maybe look at a slightly lighter bat, 2.6 is crazy light though. I like to know i'm swinging something around when the ball is coming down :)

maybe look in the middle at 2.8 and find a bat with a really nice pick up - you can always use lead tape on the top of the handle or extra grips to add weight to balance it how you want.

trial and error but the worst thing I did was mess about with lots of bats - i'm not good enough to use anything that's thrown my way, when you find a weight and shape you are confident using try to stick with it.
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Post by: Cin88 on August 25, 2015, 01:10:40 PM
Its all down to personal preference and confidence with bats. I tend to go for 2lb 8 as it tends to be the weight that gives me the most options as far as bat shape goes. Although I do now own a bat that is apparently 3lb 2 (unreliable scales may be an issue here) but picks up quite light. To me, it doesn't matter what weight your bat is because if you're going to hit the ball miles, then you're going to do it, all it takes is timing and hitting the middle.

A full sized bat at 2lb 6 is a bit of a stretch though, unless some really low density willow is used.
Title: Re: Opinions Please
Post by: brokenbat on August 25, 2015, 04:46:34 PM
Sir Gary Sobers used 2lb 2 ... and had no problems hitting 4s and 6s.
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Post by: Seniorplayer on August 25, 2015, 06:56:20 PM
Hi guys,

Just wanted some opinions/experiences relating to very light weight bats. This season I used a bat which weighed around 2:9 but the pick up wasn't to my liking at all- and adding an additional balanced it out but made it heavier. So for next season I'm looking for an adult bat, short handle which weighs around 2:6 with 2 grips (preferably 1 ounce each, I have the old gray nicolls coil ones which are about an ounce or just over) (looking for bat speed). My only issue is that I'm a bit worried that a 2:6 won't "ping enough" and I'll end up with a light plank.

Any opinions, experiences, advice re light bats appreciated, thanks

Reading your post i think that your on the right lines to go for a 2 6 bat as  2 - 9 was to heavy for you 2 -6 will certainly allow you to increase your bat speed which will compensate for losing 3 ounces of willow  i did exactly the same and have better timing along with better control of shots the main  advantage of useing an heavy bat is if you can swing it at the same speed as a lighter one also have you consider getting a bat made to the weight you want as you don't see S/H bats at 2-6 that often I did see 1 on its just cricket website a while ago.
Title: Re: Opinions Please
Post by: edge on August 25, 2015, 08:09:37 PM
Sir Gary Sobers used 2lb 2 ... and had no problems hitting 4s and 6s.
Much as I'd love to be as good at cricket as Sobers... I'll stick to my 2lb10s!
Title: Re: Opinions Please
Post by: Seniorplayer on August 25, 2015, 08:31:25 PM
Sir Gary Sobers used 2lb 2 ... and had no problems hitting 4s and 6s.

Inc six sixes in one over
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Post by: ppccopener on August 25, 2015, 08:53:50 PM
Indeed...you do wonder what they would do with modern trampoline bats.
I saw richards bat in the barbados museum and it almost looked like a jnr bat by modern standards.
We will never know thou :)
Title: Re: Opinions Please
Post by: alee on August 25, 2015, 09:12:09 PM
Justin Langer, Sehwag used 2'6. So does Hashim Amla
Title: Re: Opinions Please
Post by: alee on August 25, 2015, 09:55:45 PM
Gray Nicolls Vortex

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-GRAY-NICOLLS-EW-CRICKET-BAT-VORTEX-FIVE-STAR-SH-2lb-6-/262018104181?hash=item3d017efb75 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/NEW-GRAY-NICOLLS-EW-CRICKET-BAT-VORTEX-FIVE-STAR-SH-2lb-6-/262018104181?hash=item3d017efb75)

Title: Re: Opinions Please
Post by: beaver5 on August 25, 2015, 10:29:07 PM
It's all down to bat speed. So the faster you can swing the further it will go.
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Post by: joeljonno on August 26, 2015, 08:19:05 AM

It's all down to bat speed. So the faster you can swing the further it will go.

The faster you swing a bat, the harder it is to "time" the ball.


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Title: Re: Opinions Please
Post by: Seniorplayer on August 26, 2015, 08:48:43 AM
The faster you swing a bat, the harder it is to "time" the ball.


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Well there you go I find it easier to bring the bat down straight in defence against the quick bowlers and time shots with a 2lb 6 ounce bat than using a 2- 8 upwards bat  the problem being with the  Heavier bat i was often late playing shots getting out in the point region  that said I do get out playing attacking shots to early but I find I have more control and balance  using a 2- 6 bat
Title: Re: Opinions Please
Post by: Topgun on August 26, 2015, 12:50:40 PM
Dont know about you guys but i like to have some weight pushing the ball when driving... But back foot shots well be awesome to play
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Post by: Cin88 on August 26, 2015, 01:27:23 PM
The one disadvantage to me dropping down to a light bat is that i've completely lost my timing for the cover drive (favourite shot). I can cut and pull the hell out of a short ball though. I play on mixed bounce pitches that can have good length balls going over your head (last saturday) so the ability to go after short bowling is a good trade off for me.
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Post by: brokenbat on August 26, 2015, 01:39:15 PM
The one disadvantage to me dropping down to a light bat is that i've completely lost my timing for the cover drive (favourite shot). I can cut and pull the hell out of a short ball though. I play on mixed bounce pitches that can have good length balls going over your head (last saturday) so the ability to go after short bowling is a good trade off for me.

This means that your body weight is not going into the drive. I make the same mistake. When you just push at the ball, without your head going towards the ball, and without your weight actually transferring into the ball, you lose power. I think thats why the old pros could send the ball miles using "feathers", but we still struggle with "better" bats.
Title: Re: Opinions Please
Post by: Cin88 on August 26, 2015, 02:00:23 PM
This means that your body weight is not going into the drive. I make the same mistake. When you just push at the ball, without your head going towards the ball, and without your weight actually transferring into the ball, you lose power. I think thats why the old pros could send the ball miles using "feathers", but we still struggle with "better" bats.

Its partly what you say and partly because I made the mistake of listening to someone else's advice and changed the way I play the shot. I used to play the shot with a massive stride forward that often left me on one knee, it looked daft but it worked more often than not and kept the ball on the floor. Now I play the shot off a shorter stride and more upright but I almost never hit it, i'm probably just going to go back to my old long stride version once i've had a few nets to get used to playing it again.