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Title: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: Vic Nicholas on September 14, 2015, 02:54:35 AM
This is a question that seriously needs to be asked given all the chest beating on this site about the apparent superiority of Made in UK products over the allegedly inferior Made in India brands.

I believe you all witnessed the headache that Eoin Morgan received today after being badged by Mitch Starc?

No reference to the fact that his UK made Masuri utterly failed him? The very same Masuri who distastefully used the tragic death of Phil Hughes to gain free exposure to their supposedly superior UK manufactured helmet?

To refresh your memory...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXJVLVVeISg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXJVLVVeISg)

While we are on the topic of the "superior UK manufactured" Masuri...Graham Wagg had quite a headache to contend with:
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/cricket/33670235 (http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/cricket/33670235)

Doesn't look like it is performing it's primary function, does it? But the conspiracy of silence around here is odd to say the least. If this was a Shrey, there would be not enough bandwidth for the closet haters to vent their spleen.

Speaking of Shrey...when Moeen Ali got sconned on the head, he didn't even bother removing his helmet much less retiring hurt:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ampf8sQ4Dg&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ampf8sQ4Dg&feature=youtu.be)

Shikkar Dhawan also batted on...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so1vzYYAcgY&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so1vzYYAcgY&feature=youtu.be)

I can hear the gnashing of teeth around here, but we have to face up to facts; the new improved design of Shrey is superior to all other brands on the market today.

Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: skip1973 on September 14, 2015, 03:12:33 AM
It didn't fail him Vic, that is a ridiculous statement. Helmets reduce injury, they can't completely prevent it.
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: gerhard303 on September 14, 2015, 03:41:16 AM
Are the updated Shreys heavier than they used to be? I tried on one of the Masuris at GCCC and it was much heavier than any other helmet I've worn before!
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: potzy248 on September 14, 2015, 03:48:02 AM
Is this Jason from Hammer going under another name? Worst post I have seen for a couple of weeks days. I don't know which brand is better, but Eoin Morgan would be pretty happy his injury wasn't worse. It was a fair old strike not a glancing blow.
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: smilley792 on September 14, 2015, 04:47:00 AM
Rodgers was wearing a shrey when hit by Anderson (at 78mph not the 92 starc bowls). And was still so concussed he collapsed two days later.


He was also wearing a shrey when hit in nets that put him out of the entire West Indies tour.

Short memory.
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: iand123 on September 14, 2015, 05:27:39 AM
I can hear the gnashing of teeth around here, but we have to face up to facts; the new improved design of Shrey is superior to all other brands on the market today.

I was beginning to worry as i actually agreed with you in the most part but then you said this and i breathed a sigh of relief. Can i take a stab in the dark and guess that you own a Shrey?

The actual footage link on YT has been taken down, i still haven't seen the incident, it hit him on the back of the head so presumed he turned away? Was Morgan wearing the stem guard?
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: Vic Nicholas on September 14, 2015, 06:27:00 AM
Rodgers was wearing a shrey when hit by Anderson (at 78mph not the 92 starc bowls). And was still so concussed he collapsed two days later.


He was also wearing a shrey when hit in nets that put him out of the entire West Indies tour.

Short memory.

A couple of FACTS for you seeing as you have a propensity to distort the truth:

1/ Rogers was wearing an Albion when he got struck on the head and put out of the Windies tour - not a Shrey.
2/ When Rogers was struck by Anderson, he was wearing a Shrey, but he attached a MASURI stem guard. The Masuri stem guard has a metal clip - and the Anderson bouncer struck RIGHT ON the metal clip which is what caused the damage...nothing to do with the Shrey or it's design.

But don't let the truth get in the way of your anti-Shrey crusade, hey brother?
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: skip1973 on September 14, 2015, 06:31:24 AM
All Aussie players use laminate bats too don't they Vic.
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: Vic Nicholas on September 14, 2015, 06:32:23 AM
I was beginning to worry as i actually agreed with you in the most part but then you said this and i breathed a sigh of relief. Can i take a stab in the dark and guess that you own a Shrey?

The actual footage link on YT has been taken down, i still haven't seen the incident, it hit him on the back of the head so presumed he turned away? Was Morgan wearing the stem guard?

Yes, I own the best helmet on the market today - a Shrey.

Morgan was hit on the side of the helmet and the ball deflected to point. It did NOT hit on the stem guard.

The helmet failed completely in it's primary task.

The question that needs to be asked is, "have the helmet companies in an effort to strengthen the grill area to protect the face compromised on the thickness elsewhere?"

The reason I ask is that I have never seen so many concussions from guys being hit on the helmet in my life.

Guys have been getting smacked on the helmet for three decades and were mostly fine. Now they are going down like nine pins. Why?

The Shrey has stood up the best of all the designs so far - that cannot be refuted.
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: Vic Nicholas on September 14, 2015, 06:35:14 AM
All Aussie players use laminate bats too don't they Vic.

None do (that I know of).

Some other players most certainly experimented with them though - hence the ICC specifically banning them. They wouldn't ban something that doesn't exist, would they?
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: swat on September 14, 2015, 07:00:44 AM
Apparently, Shrey is much lighter than Masuri. And I completely agree, the quality of Shrey Masterclass is amazing. Can't pass the judgement on new Masuri as I haven't used one.
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: potzy248 on September 14, 2015, 07:06:50 AM
Ok, so you have shares in Shrey.

Why do you say the Masuri failed? They don't claim to stop all injuries, there is always a risk. We don't know the full story about Morgan, maybe he was hit in the temple?
Shrey obviously make a good helmet but they will have injuries as well, if you think otherwise then you are a fool. They only reduce the risk not stop it.

I'm pretty sure the amount of head injuries are down to players not being as good at playing those deliveries, not because the helmets are worse.

Until you give us all the facts about both helmets then don't let your story get in the way of the facts.

Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: smilley792 on September 14, 2015, 07:13:24 AM
I'm really not anti shrey, I was told duff info on windows. And didn't research sue me.

I'm not pro masuri either I wear an ayrtek.


Still they got to be better than previous masuris. This is my mates face this morning after an u15 hit him with a bouncer(a quick u15 mind probably bowling 75)

 (http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h76/smilley792/67C3DD78-977B-46AE-87F7-8158F7DC8A9C_zpspxucgi89.jpg) (http://s61.photobucket.com/user/smilley792/media/67C3DD78-977B-46AE-87F7-8158F7DC8A9C_zpspxucgi89.jpg.html)

He's gutted as its his uni pic day today.


These two didn't get concussion but they were hit straight on.

http://youtu.be/_MDIGBr11o4 (http://youtu.be/_MDIGBr11o4)

http://youtu.be/-Jaw0ovmRow (http://youtu.be/-Jaw0ovmRow)




Maybe it's the angle?

Either way I've never rated the stem guard(said it before) it breaks to easy which as a paying punter. Amatuers aren't gonna Cary several in there bag. Especially at the price masuri charge.
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: windyroad on September 14, 2015, 07:15:13 AM
Too many variables to compare the efficacy of one design over another from two very separate and different incidents.
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: Vic Nicholas on September 14, 2015, 07:16:39 AM
Ok, so you have shares in Shrey.

Why do you say the Masuri failed? They don't claim to stop all injuries, there is always a risk. We don't know the full story about Morgan, maybe he was hit in the temple?
Shrey obviously make a good helmet but they will have injuries as well, if you think otherwise then you are a fool. They only reduce the risk not stop it.

I'm pretty sure the amount of head injuries are down to players not being as good at playing those deliveries, not because the helmets are worse.

Until you give us all the facts about both helmets then don't let your story get in the way of the facts.

If owning a Shrey means I am a share holder in Shrey - woweee, I'll take that. Sadly, they will make their millions without me making a cracker. So it is just a personal preference on my behalf.

I am just enjoying you Poms squirm. Twelve to eighteen months ago there was unanimous (amongst the Englishmen) around here that Shrey would never even pass the British Standard much less be available for sale in UK stores.

Looks like that Pommy boast didn't hold up - did it?

The British Empire crumbled a long time ago - so you have to come to grips with the reality that manufacturers from the former colonies have surpassed the former "Mother Country" in technological expertise in the production of cricket equipment.

Indians make better bats that the English companies and it appears also in protective head gear as well.

I won't even go into gloves and pads etc, because the English have completely given up as they cannot even begin to compete with the Indian manufacturers.
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: northernboy1987 on September 14, 2015, 07:17:15 AM
It is ever so slightly ironic that Morgan has used Shrey helmets a lot in the past but surely if there was some kind of inherent flaw with the Masuri design then the amount of top level pros using them would be considerably less?
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on September 14, 2015, 07:41:43 AM
It is ever so slightly ironic that Morgan has used Shrey helmets a lot in the past but surely if there was some kind of inherent flaw with the Masuri design then the amount of top level pros using them would be considerably less?

Own and use shrey, can't say it's any more or less protective than the new masuri. Only main difference is the new masuri is frigging heavy so I sacked or off. As for what pros use, they use what they are paid/given for free!
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: northernboy1987 on September 14, 2015, 07:55:17 AM
As for what pros use, they use what they are paid/given for free!

I understand that they'll use whoever gives them the best sponsorship deal but what I was meaning was that if the Masuri's were death traps like is being made out by some people then surely no amount of sponsorship money would convince pros to wear them over the Shrey/any other brand. If anything some pros (Joe Root for example) actually forgo their own main sponsors helmets in favour of Masuri, now again I suppose money will come into it as well but surely if you're facing 90mph thunderbolts around your head you would need to be confident in the protection level of your equipment?
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: joymarvin on September 14, 2015, 07:58:20 AM
I have been using the Shrey MASTER CLASS with Titanium Visor and they are definitely lighter than the top of the range Masuri.
No comments on the Masuri, but will give my vote to Shrey.
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: FattusCattus on September 14, 2015, 08:07:40 AM
This is a question that seriously needs to be asked given all the chest beating on this site about the apparent superiority of Made in UK products over the allegedly inferior Made in India brands.

An opinion perpetuated only by you Vic, to allow you to enjoy your anti-pom, separatist, right-wing anti-colonial, facile, childish, provocative, go-aussie-go, deluded, fantastical, faux-superior and frankly buttock-clenchingly tedious clap-trap.

It's a good job none of us rise to it!  :D
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: uknsaunders on September 14, 2015, 08:12:13 AM
Back with Ayrtek  :), so it's irrelevant for me as neither are as good. Only people who can wear Shrey/Masuri are people with little heads. I've never got either on yet from what I remember. Redders has a little head and he buys loads of Masuri helmets, about a dozen a season I think. I think Vic should start a keyboard fight with redders.
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: RoCo Da Pixie on September 14, 2015, 08:23:51 AM
I have never used either a Shrey or a Masui. Started with an Albion now I use Ayrtek. Never been hit in the head so I can't tell you how good one or the other is.

We all have our brand allegiances. There is no need to rubbish one or the other. Everyone has an opinion on what they prefer.
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: tim2000s on September 14, 2015, 08:40:42 AM
Always good to see an old fashioned trollist, opinion based, rant flying in the face of any useful facts!
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: iand123 on September 14, 2015, 08:56:23 AM
Yes, I own the best helmet on the market today - a Shrey.

Morgan was hit on the side of the helmet and the ball deflected to point. It did NOT hit on the stem guard.

The helmet failed completely in it's primary task.

The question that needs to be asked is, "have the helmet companies in an effort to strengthen the grill area to protect the face compromised on the thickness elsewhere?"

The reason I ask is that I have never seen so many concussions from guys being hit on the helmet in my life.

Guys have been getting smacked on the helmet for three decades and were mostly fine. Now they are going down like nine pins. Why?

The Shrey has stood up the best of all the designs so far - that cannot be refuted.

It is odd why so many, to ask a point someone has already made what about Rogers getting hit wasnt he wearing a shrey? I have an ayrtek and bought a new masuri start of this year and didnt like it and quickly reverted. Havent tried a shrey mainly because the old style masuri style lid didnt fit my massive meatball head
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: Vitas Cricket on September 14, 2015, 09:21:15 AM


I am just enjoying you Poms squirm. Twelve to eighteen months ago there was unanimous (amongst the Englishmen) around here that Shrey would never even pass the British Standard much less be available for sale in UK stores.

Looks like that Pommy boast didn't hold up - did it?


Shrey didn't pass the test, they changed their design quite drastically in order to do so.

Moreover, Shrey lids are still only available from a handful of retailers in the UK. Their distribution and corporate setup in this country is amateur by comparison to Masuri and Adidas/Ayrtek, hence lack of retailers. They weren't at the Lords trade show last year, the main avenue to get retailers to see a new product as all retailers are there, under one roof.
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: kdale6 on September 14, 2015, 09:57:48 AM
If owning a Shrey means I am a share holder in Shrey - woweee, I'll take that. Sadly, they will make their millions without me making a cracker. So it is just a personal preference on my behalf.

I am just enjoying you Poms squirm. Twelve to eighteen months ago there was unanimous (amongst the Englishmen) around here that Shrey would never even pass the British Standard much less be available for sale in UK stores.

Looks like that Pommy boast didn't hold up - did it?

The British Empire crumbled a long time ago - so you have to come to grips with the reality that manufacturers from the former colonies have surpassed the former "Mother Country" in technological expertise in the production of cricket equipment.

Indians make better bats that the English companies and it appears also in protective head gear as well.

I won't even go into gloves and pads etc, because the English have completely given up as they cannot even begin to compete with the Indian manufacturers.

back in your xenophobic little box now pet, you've had to much sugar havent you!
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: smilley792 on September 14, 2015, 10:05:34 AM
jack brooks just shattered jimmy adams stemguard.


he is still batting and not concussed.
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on September 14, 2015, 10:11:53 AM
jack brooks just shattered jimmy adams stemguard.


he is still batting and not concussed.

Shattered?
I thought they were rubbery stuff that would survive an impact.

Regardless what they're made from, it's clearly done it's job in this case!
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: Number4 on September 14, 2015, 11:48:19 AM
I've never used a helmet... So sorry guys I'm no use to anyone ;)
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: Number4 on September 14, 2015, 11:51:33 AM
Sorry I tell a lie... I once used an Albion many years ago with the old style clear "plastic" face shield... Terrible things!!!
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: petehosk on September 14, 2015, 12:01:50 PM
I love the quote that Asia make the best bats!
You will have to excuse my ignorance if I would prefer Kranzbuhler, Laver, Keeley (both Tim and Fred), Kember, Pack, Millichamp,  etc to name but a few, to make a bat for me!
I realise that the Asian market does have a few excellent Master bat makers, so please don't for one minute think that I am saying they don't make some excellent bats! Plus I do own a number of excellent Asian bats, some of which are quality!
And I realise Vic, that you are unlikely to slag off Kranzbuhler, as he is a fellow Aussie. Not sure where you stand with Laver (being a pom residing on NZ!)
But saying a sweeping statement like that with all the absolute amazing batmakers that I have mentioned above shows that you have possibly been hit on the head a few times too many yourself with some lasting damage? Obviously, if this is the case, it would have been before you purchased your Shrey!! As your Shrey would never have left that lasting damage!
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: edge on September 14, 2015, 12:23:46 PM
Wooo anti-english abuse is back. Vic, are you actually a crazy racist with a hard on for Shrey helmets, or just fancied a troll again? The Shrey helmet isn't even the same design as last time!

I'll just add that I got concussed this season after being hit on the temple while wearing... an Indian manufactured Masuri. I wasn't facing Mitch Starc pace either! Conventional helmets can't actually really do anything about concussion (look it up).
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: mdg20 on September 14, 2015, 12:44:08 PM
Without sounding crass the lid did its job because Morgan got hit flush on the temple and isnt dead.

Helmets arent there to prevent all injuries but to seriously reduce the effect of a blow to the head. In this case it think its safe to say it did that.
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: gerhard303 on September 14, 2015, 01:25:15 PM
Has anyone done a review of the latest Shreys? They are priced lower than Masuri in Australia (models below Masterclass) hence my interest.
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: Vic Nicholas on September 14, 2015, 02:07:31 PM
I love the quote that Asia make the best bats!
You will have to excuse my ignorance if I would prefer Kranzbuhler, Laver, Keeley (both Tim and Fred), Kember, Pack, Millichamp,  etc to name but a few, to make a bat for me!
I realise that the Asian market does have a few excellent Master bat makers, so please don't for one minute think that I am saying they don't make some excellent bats! Plus I do own a number of excellent Asian bats, some of which are quality!
And I realise Vic, that you are unlikely to slag off Kranzbuhler, as he is a fellow Aussie. Not sure where you stand with Laver (being a pom residing on NZ!)
But saying a sweeping statement like that with all the absolute amazing batmakers that I have mentioned above shows that you have possibly been hit on the head a few times too many yourself with some lasting damage? Obviously, if this is the case, it would have been before you purchased your Shrey!! As your Shrey would never have left that lasting damage!

Give me an SS over any of the above.

All very capable batmakers, but, I feel they have been surpassed.

A.B. De Villiers
Hashim Amla
Virat Kohli
Steve Smith
...all use Asian made bats.

That is good enough for me.

There just seems to be a general lack of acceptance on this forum that anything not made in the UK is somehow inferior - and it isn't.

That is essentially my point.

Morgan staggered off KOed. Moeen and Shikhar Dhawan from similar blows on their Shrey's batted on in no discomfort.

It is not a question of whether Shrey are better than British made helmets. It is more that the British helmets are not as great as some on here have made them out to be.
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: Vic Nicholas on September 14, 2015, 02:11:38 PM
Wooo anti-english abuse is back. Vic, are you actually a crazy racist with a hard on for Shrey helmets, or just fancied a troll again? The Shrey helmet isn't even the same design as last time!

I'll just add that I got concussed this season after being hit on the temple while wearing... an Indian manufactured Masuri. I wasn't facing Mitch Starc pace either! Conventional helmets can't actually really do anything about concussion (look it up).

Racist???

How can what I say be construed as racist?

Aren't the English related to most Aussies?

Or have the English in the last 200 years morphed into something else?

None of this would even have been an issue except that many on here 18 months ago went to great lengths to insist that Shrey would "die", "never get approved by British Standards" and other tosh.

If they (they know who they are) were more civil and accepting, then there would be no reason to even have this discussion.
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: Vic Nicholas on September 14, 2015, 02:12:55 PM
Always good to see an old fashioned trollist, opinion based, rant flying in the face of any useful facts!

I agree with you Tim.

So many on here should be ashamed of themselves peddling their lies.
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: ajmw89 on September 14, 2015, 02:17:59 PM
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Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: Vic Nicholas on September 14, 2015, 02:21:58 PM
An opinion perpetuated only by you Vic, to allow you to enjoy your anti-pom, separatist, right-wing anti-colonial, facile, childish, provocative, go-aussie-go, deluded, fantastical, faux-superior and frankly buttock-clenchingly tedious clap-trap.

It's a good job none of us rise to it!  :D

Right wing?

You do realise that right wingers in Oz support the British monarchy don't you?

I support an Australian Republic. The sooner we divest ourselves of the anachronistic British monarch presiding over Australia - the better.

Anti-Pom?

Not at all. I love the English. They have given us some of the finest bands in rock history (think Beatles, Stones, The Who, Kinks, Led Zep, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Queen, Sweet, The Darkness etc), Shakespear, Elgar etc...

The ONLY thing I dislike about this forum is the conservative "Made in the UK is superior" mentality that pervades through here.

Does that make me a raving right winger? Or as one other poster just now - a racist?

It seems that you all have no dramas with calumniating a persons character when you cannot win an argument.

It is called "argumentum ad hominem" and unfortunately, many of you engage in it.

That is your prerogative.

I just like being a contrarian.
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: Vic Nicholas on September 14, 2015, 02:23:47 PM
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Must be a pic of yourself. I don't look anything like that...and unlike many on here, I am not morbidly obese either.
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: Nugget97 on September 14, 2015, 02:32:25 PM
At the end of the day a helmet is a helmet no matter the brand as long as it does its job taking the blow instead of your head does it really matter who's logo is stuck on it, you can never guarantee your not going to get concussed from a blow
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: petehosk on September 14, 2015, 02:38:50 PM
Give me an SS over any of the above.
All very capable batmakers, but, I feel they have been surpassed.

A.B. De Villiers
Hashim Amla
Virat Kohli
Steve Smith
...all use Asian made bats.

That is good enough for me.

There just seems to be a general lack of acceptance on this forum that anything not made in the UK is somehow inferior - and it isn't.

That is essentially my point.

From a kit point of view, the UK cannot compete with the labour costs in Asia so the kit is made over there...normally from templates and processes created in UK/Aus, etc!
Therefore pointless talking about who makes the best kit as the move is due to manufacturers making profits!

From helmet point of view, there was talk about Shrey not being up to scratch - and at the time there was genuine doubt! Shrey have adapted well and seem to have ensured a decent level of quality. But no reason to disrespect other brands! Just like cars, everyone has their brand that they prefer!! I use Ayrtek but most people (myself included) do not play against 90mph bowling so it is not such an issue!

And with Bats - I was guilty myself of not rating Asian brands but that was a few years ago. I now have SS, Ton, BAS, Malik, etc, etc, etc!
Since then I have had several absolute insane Asian sticks....the best being a Ton from a Pro, which went like a rocket. And a BAS (which I don't think was from a Pro) and was totally insane (in a good way)
But I would still put my Salix and Keeley bats above all else! Performance wise, there is not that much between them and the Asian bats! But the way they feel...the pick up, the balance, the quality of finish, and several other factors just lift them above the best of the Asian bats I have used!
There is no doubt that Asian bat makers have learnt quickly and well, and make some ridiculously good bats. And I can fully understand your opinion if you really do prefer them (and are not just saying this because you have an issue with us Poms and most things British!) but you need to appreciate and respect others opinions if based on experience.   
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: Vic Nicholas on September 14, 2015, 02:43:48 PM
From a kit point of view, the UK cannot compete with the labour costs in Asia so the kit is made over there...normally from templates and processes created in UK/Aus, etc!
Therefore pointless talking about who makes the best kit as the move is due to manufacturers making profits!

From helmet point of view, there was talk about Shrey not being up to scratch - and at the time there was genuine doubt! Shrey have adapted well and seem to have ensured a decent level of quality. But no reason to disrespect other brands! Just like cars, everyone has their brand that they prefer!! I use Ayrtek but most people (myself included) do not play against 90mph bowling so it is not such an issue!

And with Bats - I was guilty myself of not rating Asian brands but that was a few years ago. I now have SS, Ton, BAS, Malik, etc, etc, etc!
Since then I have had several absolute insane Asian sticks....the best being a Ton from a Pro, which went like a rocket. And a BAS (which I don't think was from a Pro) and was totally insane (in a good way)
But I would still put my Salix and Keeley bats above all else! Performance wise, there is not that much between them and the Asian bats! But the way they feel...the pick up, the balance, the quality of finish, and several other factors just lift them above the best of the Asian bats I have used!
There is no doubt that Asian bat makers have learnt quickly and well, and make some ridiculously good bats. And I can fully understand your opinion if you really do prefer them (and are not just saying this because you have an issue with us Poms and most things British!) but you need to appreciate and respect others opinions if based on experience.

I don't care for Kranzbeuhler's and Bradbury's bats either.

So enough of this "he doesn't rate our stuff because it is English".

If you make me the best bat ever, and it is made in England - I will love you forever. But, the Asian bats I have are simply better performance wise.
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: Vic Nicholas on September 14, 2015, 02:48:59 PM
That's me...
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v357/cooldewd/Luxembourgnoop371.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/cooldewd/media/Luxembourgnoop371.jpg.html)
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on September 14, 2015, 03:04:31 PM
A picture of yourself eating, you morbidly obese mess Vic!  ;) :D
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: Vic Nicholas on September 14, 2015, 03:09:51 PM
A picture of yourself eating, you morbidly obese mess Vic!  ;) :D

A chocolate sundae from McDonald's too!
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: Rob580 on September 14, 2015, 03:10:17 PM
Wow. One person likes a brand of cricket helmet more than another one and now it's made it to 4 pages of arguing / debate.

Some people have got far too much time / anger on their hands....
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: joymarvin on September 14, 2015, 03:12:28 PM
A chocolate sundae from McDonald's too!

Haha Vic  :D
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: ScottParko on September 14, 2015, 04:01:10 PM
Right wing?

You do realise that right wingers in Oz support the British monarchy don't you?

I support an Australian Republic. The sooner we divest ourselves of the anachronistic British monarch presiding over Australia - the better.

Anti-Pom?

Not at all. I love the English. They have given us some of the finest bands in rock history (think Beatles, Stones, The Who, Kinks, Led Zep, Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Queen, Sweet, The Darkness etc), Shakespear, Elgar etc...

The ONLY thing I dislike about this forum is the conservative "Made in the UK is superior" mentality that pervades through here.

Does that make me a raving right winger? Or as one other poster just now - a racist?

It seems that you all have no dramas with calumniating a persons character when you cannot win an argument.

It is called "argumentum ad hominem" and unfortunately, many of you engage in it.

That is your prerogative.

I just like being a contrarian.

I was happy to give you the benefit of the doubt until you listed Darkness as a fine rock band.

Bit offended by the morbidly obese remark like but hey ho.
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: shoab68 on September 14, 2015, 05:53:34 PM
Not much into helmets, so no comments on helmets.
Coming to bats, I have all top brands top end bats from UK, Aussie, NZ, India and Pakistan.  No offence but I rate my SS made bats the best. Yes, I  care more for my Laver signature and Screaming cat bats  because I have spent three or four times more than my SS bats.
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: edge on September 14, 2015, 07:44:57 PM
I just like being a contrarian.
Bingo. I've literally never read one single post on this forum declaring that 'Made in the UK is superior'. Feel free to share some and discuss rather than just the occasional 'I heart Shrey, down with the British Empire' thread.
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: brokenbat on September 14, 2015, 08:33:02 PM
I don't get the argument at all - being struck on the temple / back of the head is very different from being struck on the forehead or top of the head (you could probably survive the latter without wearing a helmet at all). Why does the brand of the helmet matter here? It would only matter if you can find an example of a Shrey helmet wearer getting hit at the same spot as Morgan - at 90+ mph.
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: potzy248 on September 14, 2015, 08:33:41 PM
Its funny, the UK guys all rate UK made bats first and the Asian guys all rate Asian bats first. Crazy stuff.

If that V800 is anything to go by then Asian bats are getting pretty damn good.

Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: Vitas Cricket on October 01, 2015, 10:57:28 AM
A couple of FACTS for you seeing as you have a propensity to distort the truth:

1/ Rogers was wearing an Albion when he got struck on the head and put out of the Windies tour - not a Shrey.
2/ When Rogers was struck by Anderson, he was wearing a Shrey, but he attached a MASURI stem guard. The Masuri stem guard has a metal clip - and the Anderson bouncer struck RIGHT ON the metal clip which is what caused the damage...nothing to do with the Shrey or it's design.

But don't let the truth get in the way of your anti-Shrey crusade, hey brother?

I really wanted to address this at the time, but having not seen the product first hand until yesterday at the trade show, I decided to hold off, apologies again to the many out there who get tired of the Shrey/Masuri back and forth that occurs in various forum topics.

The stemguard has absolutely no metal in it whatsoever. It is made from a very sturdy but flexible rubber, with foam inserts, which for want of a better way to describe, feel like carbon filters from a fancy Brita water filter or similar.

It isn't my place to say whether they offer any additional protection, or how much they offer etc, but what I am 100% sure of is that wearing one will absolutely not increase your risk of injury as suggested in the quote.
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: Topgun on October 01, 2015, 11:32:40 AM
A helmet no matter what its quality/features can only do so much to protect you
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: Aussie on October 02, 2015, 01:24:14 PM
This whole thread has made me laugh!
Aussies aren't anti-English. This pineapple might be, but not the rest of us. The statistics show support for a republic are diminishing and support for the monarchy and royals growing. For most of us we love playing and staying in the UK. People will wear what they want at amateur level. At professional level there'll be an element of wearing what they're told to wear. Different helmets suits people differently. Some fit, some don't. People ultimately will make a personal decision to wear what suits them. Same with bats, pads, gloves, shoes etc.
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: OwzatOllie on October 02, 2015, 08:29:29 PM
As far as I'm concerned, you wear a helmet that feels comfortable on your head.  They aren't going to make you immune to head injuries.
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: tim2000s on October 05, 2015, 10:51:32 AM
I wouldn't have wanted to be wearing this helmet....

(http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/15/10/05/7f69f797ed3c9613e875f56ad855fa62.jpg)
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: brokenbat on October 05, 2015, 05:22:20 PM
hahaha..beat me to the punch..

here is the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cctGeYDIb7w (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cctGeYDIb7w)

Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: Aussie on October 05, 2015, 05:43:23 PM
That's awful. I've never seen the strap simply break like that. It's so shocking that I can see an entire product recall as it looks like a design flaw. I'm really glad I don't wear this certain brand of helmet.
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: ballinger on October 05, 2015, 05:49:16 PM
Most of the England players were wearing shrey helmets today for some reason
Title: Re: The New Masuri - is it all that it was made out to be?
Post by: brokenbat on October 05, 2015, 07:06:57 PM
This is clearly a conspiracy by the Queen to undermine non-British manufacturers. I think Bond himself infiltrated Shrey HQ and planted a faulty design in their factories.

Clearly that is the only logical explanation.