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General Cricket => Cricket Training, Fitness and Injuries => Topic started by: uknsaunders on September 17, 2015, 12:18:20 PM
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Interesting article:-
http://www.thecricketmonthly.com/story/908287/databall (http://www.thecricketmonthly.com/story/908287/databall)
Does anybody think some element of data gathering will reach club cricket, perhaps the top levels?
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I'm not sure that the cricket statistics generated by clubs have the required volume, velocity or variety to truly be considered 'big data'.
That aside there are analytics packages on the market today that would allow you to plug in to your leagues play cricket data and run some analysis, and whilst more clubs/leagues move to electronic scoring apps the data quality on PC is bound to improve.
Whether there are enough/any amateurs with the skills and spare time to do the analysis is another question.
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This is right up my street... Sports Analyst with experience in County Cricket.
Considering No (extremely minimal) match analysis occurs at either academy or 2nd XI county cricket in the UK, why would top club side see it as important to do any analysis?
For me though I see it as an easy step to improve performance at all levels of cricket. Looking back and using cold hard evidence of where things went right or wrong.
Im not saying it can be done to the same degree as the professionals do it (they still can improve the use of analysis at most counties). But simply going over the ball by ball scorecard may show up some patterns of things going wrong/ right for a team. This may allow a captain to utilise a batsman or a bowler to greater effect.
Analysis in sport is not going to ever answer every question but smart use of it can only improve performance.
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Interesting read. Thanks for posting.
Things filter down its just a matter of how long or how much it costs as to if we see it at a local level. The way I see it filtering through;
International cricket - definitely
State cricket - definitely
Grade cricket - sooner rather than later in 1st XI.
Club cricket - probably not or
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I think more than likely some clever scorecard software will come along and either translate a digital scorecard into stats or make the collection of additional data very easy. ie - batsman scores 2 runs and popup comes up to say shot/area/in control yes/no etc etc . The best scorers use to do shot maps between balls on a card, so I don't think it's impossible to collect this data. Might make for some very well paid scorers!
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Do you really need in depth stats for this though?
Fat bloke - protect cow corner
Skinny bloke with twiggy arms - cover third man
Kid there to make up numbers - bowl at the stumps
Bloke who looks like he knows what he's doing - put a political attack dog under the lid to chirp them
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Do you really need in depth stats for this though?
Fat bloke - protect cow corner
Skinny bloke with twiggy arms - cover third man
Kid there to make up numbers - bowl at the stumps
Bloke who looks like he knows what he's doing - put a political attack dog under the lid to chirp them
Got that wrong for a start. I'm a porker and third man and down the ground are my areas. I think you need some stats software!
I don't think club cricket will have analysts but the top clubs might want this kind of stuff for t20 games. The software might be available to get limited useful stats as part of scorecard collection.
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Got that wrong for a start. I'm a porker and third man and down the ground are my areas. I think you need some stats software!
I don't think club cricket will have analysts but the top clubs might want this kind of stuff for t20 games. The software might be available to get limited useful stats as part of scorecard collection.
I'm a right fat knut and I'd love to be able to hit the ball, let alone to cow corner!
My post was more in jest than anything, but our scorer struggles to get the book right, so stats software would be a disaster :D
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I'm a right fat knut and I'd love to be able to hit the ball, let alone to cow corner!
My post was more in jest than anything, but our scorer struggles to get the book right, so stats software would be a disaster :D
Can we not get auto correct working on a scorebook? That would be worth having lol
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Can we not get auto correct working on a scorebook? That would be worth having lol
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Our scorer has a built in version of Autocorrect I think. He makes up first names, and even with a teamsheet given to him will spell the rest wrong. How he manages it I will never know! ???
After a few post mach beers, we tried to use the iPad voice recognition to do a match report on the ferry back from the Isle of Wight once, that was a work of literary genius! It wasn't anything like what had actually been said but the version produced made a very interesting read :D
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I think more than likely some clever scorecard software will come along and either translate a digital scorecard into stats or make the collection of additional data very easy. ie - batsman scores 2 runs and popup comes up to say shot/area/in control yes/no etc etc . The best scorers use to do shot maps between balls on a card, so I don't think it's impossible to collect this data. Might make for some very well paid scorers!
We have Mycricket scorer app here in Aus which allows shot plotting
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We have Mycricket scorer app here in Aus which allows shot plotting
CricHQ and NXCricket both allow for shot placement to create a cartwheel.
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Tcs can do most of this anyway, pitch maps for bowlers, wagon wheels.. Batsmen and bowlers give if they are leftie or rightie.. Speed, spin etc.. So you cans break it down as you wish.
Will it catch on at the amateur level ?? Not in my opinion because no one has time and it's not really worth doing.after all, he only reason for pros its woth employing someone is because it can be the difference between 100'sk and nothing so is a no brainier really.
Not sure what amateurs will get out of it, given its supposed to be fun and there isn't much money in it. Our scorer keeps accurate stats and can produce you almost any stat you want, doesn't make the club better though, just interesting to actually see your stats over time. Utterly meaningless at amateur level because everything is so random due to availability etc
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A batsmen in our team used to badger our scorer for a wagon wheel and our scorer would rightly laugh it of. The last time he asked he got a golden duck and on walking past the score box our scorer held up an A4 paper with a large circle and a dot in the middle, followed by 'there's your wagon wheel!'. Comedy moment, he never asked again.