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Companies => Custom companies => B3 Cricket => Topic started by: The Doctor on October 12, 2015, 03:41:35 PM
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Had this blog for a while and not done anything with it but am planning to start and wanted to get your thoughts on what you would like to see.
I want to make it clear that this is not a sales tool like other blogs but more of a hobby / general interest.
Please have a look and make any comments either on here or directly on the blog - cricketbatblog.com
Views are very much my own and will add stuff when I can, if you have seen anything that you have thought "I wonder if that works" , "what does that mean" or "but does that actually work" let me know and I will try and reason it with a bit of science background rather that the marketing spin - hence the tag line - the science behind the SPIN......
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Had this blog for a while and not done anything with it but am planning to start and wanted to get your thoughts on what you would like to see.
I want to make it clear that this is not a sales tool like other blogs but more of a hobby / general interest.
Please have a look and make any comments either on here or directly on the blog - cricketbatblog.com
Views are very much my own and will add stuff when I can, if you have seen anything that you have thought "I wonder if that works" , "what does that mean" or "but does that actually work" let me know and I will try and reason it with a bit of science background rather that the marketing spin - hence the tag line - the science behind the SPIN......
Streaky
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Had this blog for a while and not done anything with it but am planning to start and wanted to get your thoughts on what you would like to see.
I want to make it clear that this is not a sales tool like other blogs but more of a hobby / general interest.
Please have a look and make any comments either on here or directly on the blog - cricketbatblog.com
Views are very much my own and will add stuff when I can, if you have seen anything that you have thought "I wonder if that works" , "what does that mean" or "but does that actually work" let me know and I will try and reason it with a bit of science background rather that the marketing spin - hence the tag line - the science behind the SPIN......
Streaky
are the entries all blank so far?
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@brokenbat Yes - just popped some ideas down when they came in my head (i have a very short attention span....) will add when I get a spare 5 mins.
Also interested on peoples ideas for topics, soplease let me know if you have any.
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Had this blog for a while and not done anything with it but am planning to start and wanted to get your thoughts on what you would like to see.
I want to make it clear that this is not a sales tool like other blogs but more of a hobby / general interest.
Please have a look and make any comments either on here or directly on the blog - cricketbatblog.com
Views are very much my own and will add stuff when I can, if you have seen anything that you have thought "I wonder if that works" , "what does that mean" or "but does that actually work" let me know and I will try and reason it with a bit of science background rather that the marketing spin - hence the tag line - the science behind the SPIN......
Streaky
Interested to know why this has been moved from the Bat topic - anybody got any idea?
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Streaky you have explained lot of stuff, your views on performance and science behind it etc.. I think you can copy lot of stuff from CBF to your blog. Viewers reading the blog outside CBF can bring in fresh perspectives and queries.
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Streaky you have explained lot of stuff, your views on performance and science behind it etc.. I think you can copy lot of stuff from CBF to your blog. Viewers reading the blog outside CBF can bring in fresh perspectives and queries.
@amritpremi Good idea! - 10% discount off your next B3 purchase ;-)
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@amritpremi Good idea! - 10% discount off your next B3 purchase ;-)
Thanks a lot @The Doctor that will be great (will almost cover the shipping charges). I am trying build up funds for the Pepsi bat atm, can't wait till New year for 1 stripe clefts.
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hey doc; how about blogging about the science behind butterfly's & the difference between handles types...
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First article on my Blog, an article that I helped write for The Cricketer magazine on BIG BATS
http://wp.me/p69Qw2-M (http://wp.me/p69Qw2-M)
Have a read and let me know your thoughts.
Streaky
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I'd like to know about trends in bat profiles.
Not so long ago offset edges were the rage, recently duckbill seem to be back in fashion.
What will be the next 'fad' shape and what stays consistently popular and why?
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Even the great Gray Nicholls, one of the most revered bat makers in the history of the sport, make 75% of their bats in India, with Australia & UK (25%) and (5%) being their production centres
Presume the 75% should be 70%? (yes i am bored on my lunch break)
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Presume the 75% should be 70%? (yes i am bored on my lunch break)
I'd stick with the 75% and get rid of the lst 5%..... (thanks for the edit ;-)
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I read that article in the magazine, very interesting read. It makes perfect sense that a) bats of the same weight can disperse the ball the same distance, b) more weight = the ball being hit further and c) designs have become far more efficient (basic evolution).
I look forward to reading more posts in the near future - the type of bats pros use (selecting the clefts, what that's based on, anecdotal examples of requests, etc.) and opinions on what grains are best would be good reads...
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I read that article in the magazine, very interesting read. It makes perfect sense that a) bats of the same weight can disperse the ball the same distance, b) more weight = the ball being hit further and c) designs have become far more efficient (basic evolution).
I look forward to reading more posts in the near future - the type of bats pros use (selecting the clefts, what that's based on, anecdotal examples of requests, etc.) and opinions on what grains are best would be good reads...
What I love about point A is that it is pure physics. And always has been. Which is why the arguments about whether certain bats hit the ball further are generally moot!
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A more up to date topic, may be how far the ball goes off a modern big edge profile bat?
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Mostly when we see players with massive bats it is the psychology that comes with seeing massive edges - it gives the batsman confidence thinking he/she is more likely to hot the ball out of the park, and the opposition are gonna potentially be a bit scared by this.
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Mostly when we see players with massive bats it is the psychology that comes with seeing massive edges - it gives the batsman confidence thinking he/she is more likely to hot the ball out of the park, and the opposition are gonna potentially be a bit scared by this.
The reason that the opposition are scared of a large bat is because the initial instinct is to think it is heavy and will therefore allow the ball to be hit a long way...
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What I love about point A is that it is pure physics. And always has been. Which is why the arguments about whether certain bats hit the ball further are generally moot!
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Absolutely agree - but those involved in the press and media seem to prefer the bandwagon...
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The reason that the opposition are scared of a large bat is because the initial instinct is to think it is heavy and will therefore allow the ball to be hit a long way...
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It's the hitting a long way from mis timed shots that's the issue these days
The theory that you can swing hard at the ball with the confidence an off middle shot will still clear the in fielders and possibly the boundary is the worry for bowlers.
I'm talking bats like the kippax colossus as opposed to the Warner replica profile.
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It's the hitting a long way from mis timed shots that's the issue these days
The theory that you can swing hard at the ball with the confidence an off middle shot will still clear the in fielders and possibly the boundary is the worry for bowlers.
Dont think this is a bat issue, more of a change in technique/mentallity to the t20 format of the game. As we wrote in th article, if the bat vs ball contest needs re- balancing, there are alot of other different (easier to enforce) areas to be worked on.
Balls
Fielding restrictions
wicket conditions
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Dont think this is a bat issue, more of a change in technique/mentallity to the t20 format of the game. As we wrote in th article, if the bat vs ball contest needs re- balancing, there are alot of other different (easier to enforce) areas to be worked on.
Balls
Fielding restrictions
wicket conditions
Fully agree with you Doc, I think the first preference should be given to change the fielding restrictions which would definitely help bowlers and the 2'nd one should be size of the boundaries.
Wickets are usually made to suit the home (bowling) side in tests and in ODIs it favours batsman to make it an even contest between the sides.
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Would love to read more about the technology used in machine made bats, some videos maybe?
Also any history on research done on wood, moisture etc. How did the 10-15% percent number become the norm?
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Just on the big bat debate - here are two bats - one is 20 years old, the other brand new.
remember the new bat is almost 2 oz heavier than the old bat. As any pod shaver will tell you 2oz is a massive amount of wood:
(http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac151/buzzrockport/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0081_zpsv7ek0hn9.jpg) (http://s895.photobucket.com/user/buzzrockport/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0081_zpsv7ek0hn9.jpg.html)
(http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac151/buzzrockport/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0080_zps4bri6hqu.jpg) (http://s895.photobucket.com/user/buzzrockport/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0080_zps4bri6hqu.jpg.html)
hardly that much bigger - just a different shape...
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Just on the big bat debate - here are two bats - one is 20 years old, the other brand new.
remember the new bat is almost 2 oz heavier than the old bat. As any pod shaver will tell you 2oz is a massive amount of wood:
([url]http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac151/buzzrockport/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0081_zpsv7ek0hn9.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s895.photobucket.com/user/buzzrockport/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0081_zpsv7ek0hn9.jpg.html[/url])
([url]http://i895.photobucket.com/albums/ac151/buzzrockport/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0080_zps4bri6hqu.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s895.photobucket.com/user/buzzrockport/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG0080_zps4bri6hqu.jpg.html[/url])
hardly that much bigger - just a different shape...
Exactly, I have done a few retro designs for this purpose, and in terms of "volume" the bats of yester year are similar to todays bats
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Exactly, I have done a few retro designs for this purpose, and in terms of "volume" the bats of yester year are similar to todays bats
I find it rather interesting - I have a lot of older bats. If I put them next to my current bats, I find that I've generally got either a lot of low density willow, or I've got very different pressing. One thing I notice is that there seems, anecdotally, to be more use of denser willow in adult cricket bats from years ago, which may now be given over to the children's bats.
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I find it rather interesting - I have a lot of older bats. If I put them next to my current bats, I find that I've generally got either a lot of low density willow, or I've got very different pressing. One thing I notice is that there seems, anecdotally, to be more use of denser willow in adult cricket bats from years ago, which may now be given over to the children's bats.
I think a lot of this can be associated to the improving of drying techniques discussed in the blog.
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What's the best way to dry a cleft for optimum performance?
I'm not talking about drying the thing out to give an illusion of size
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Just started my next topic - Pressing and the Bow of a cricket bat.
Also I wanted to ask, I really would like to start analysing competitors technology (or what they state in their catalogues) seen a few interesting claims of late. I hopefully will have enough dignity to admit if I think it is a good idea but vice versa will state if I believe it is a marketing ploy, with hopefully a little bit of science behind my opinion. My question is (are)
1. Would you like to read my thoughts on competitors ideas / technology
2. How do you think this would effect the way B3 is percieved by the reader
Look forward to your thoughts.
Streaky
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I think that's a good idea. As we all know most of the technology "presented" may not be actually true, bat (legally allowed) being made from natural materials can have only a little amount of technological innovation added into it. I'll love to see a "Myth Busters" section.
I also wanted to know how we can identify deficiencies/issues in a bat while choosing. One of my questions is how can I identify a bat is storm damaged one (some pics will help).
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If you are going to analyse the tech/claim from the competition then I suggest not comparing it to B3 in that particular post. Tastefully written insults are called constructive criticism, all about how it is written really. And yes would love to read your thoughts and analysis of all these techs out there...
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If you are going to analyse the tech/claim from the competition then I suggest not comparing it to B3 in that particular post. Tastefully written insults are called constructive criticism, all about how it is written really. And yes would love to read your thoughts and analysis of all these techs out there...
My thoughts exactly. I would like to point out that this is not a B3 Blog and will not be used to promote B3 products (like many other Blogs out there) but more a personal desire to do it.
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Excellent article. Personally would love to hear a bat maker talk about the different theories both good and bad. I believe it'll help B3 because people will realise that you are genuine, as long as you don't blow everyone else's marketing apart and then simply use your own :)
Totally agree that bats shouldn't be the target of anger from people, it's the silly small boundaries and fielding restrictions. Make boundaries as big as you can and as many men out as you want and the slogs will slow down because batsmen can't then risk just throwing the bat. Bowlers don't worry about batsmen batting properly and hitting big, it's the guys who throw that bat St everything and get away with it that I see people getting annoyed at.
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Enjoyed the press article, good to hear someone from the industry debunking the rubbish that's talked about soft pressing!
Would like to hear as much analytical thoughts and info on bat performance and design as possible personally, or as much as you're prepared to air in public anyway!
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Enjoyed the press article, good to hear someone from the industry debunking the rubbish that's talked about soft pressing!
Would like to hear as much analytical thoughts and info on bat performance and design as possible personally, or as much as you're prepared to air in public anyway!
The 'In public' bit always confuses me a little. I know people say about trade secrets but.. But, if a podshaver cares as much about the future of his trade as much as they all seem to say,Matheus literally share all the knowledge in the hope that people think 'I'll give that a go in the shed' and learn the trade. If you only tell people the easy bits and not the parts that really make a bat good, then the trade will die as people have no idea so don't bother
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I started knocking in bats after getting hooked on this forum and share on all the articles I can. I the past 2 years I purchased a dozen of my own bats and sold them on. I then decided to turn my knocking skills into a hobby pay for cost. I am a B3 convert atm and love their bats, but my hobby gives me the opportunity to try other bats. So far id say the best bats i have had it to knock are the Aussie made GNs (Ulimate, Elites, X181) B&S, BAS, GM, Newbery.
That said two Sareen bats i had were awesome after Knockin. Here was the Slasher I sold on. Here was my TON Slasher http://youtu.be/uNW-RDysiwE.
Its only a hobby, but I comment on most bats I get as i do a photo album.
Soft toes on bowed bats is a problem and I suspect some manufacturers underpress to make the edge size bigger. So you get a bat that is huge and full, but after 8 hours knocking with a 300gram mallet it's toe cracks the first time you net it.
Welcome to have a look. I repost most of the articles on the forum.
https://www.facebook.com/mkwbatservices
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@The Doctor
Enjoyed reading your articles on bat size and pressing.
Would be great to get your thoughts on swell size, shape and position for different playing styles and pitch types, and whether it is relevant, or if the balance of a bat and how it makes the batsman feel is more important? ie is a bat selector questionnaire a gimmick or is there some science that backs it up?
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Legal Handle construction. No of pieces, cork vs rubber. Inserts. Hollowing or hex. What has the greatest impact on performance and what is negligible.
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@ The Doctor
Doc , what's your take on heartwood in terms of performance & durability considering it's the dead portion of the bark unlike sapwood. Also, does it have any bearing on grading if say half the face is heartwood (seems to be the choice of a lot of pros of late)
Thanks.
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Yeah would be interested in your thoughts on this too as the best bat I've been lucky to use had half heartwood.
And I've noticed a lot of pro bats over the years,(Steve Waugh had one) featured half heartwood.
What's the lifespan like on these?
Do they tend to be drier/ more brittle for instance?
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New blog coming soon, just been doing a little CAD to support my arguement....
(http://i63.tinypic.com/301g0fb.jpg)
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Lovely bit of rendering!
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Doc, I'd be interested to understand the science behind any benefits a low density (ie greater volume for the same weight) cleft offers, compared to a regular density cleft. Is it just a placebo effect?
Thanks,
David
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New blog coming soon, just been doing a little CAD to support my arguement....
([url]http://i63.tinypic.com/301g0fb.jpg[/url])
That's that cork i'll pull before I pour a glass of fine Barossa Shiraz and read the article.
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CAD model done.....
(http://i65.tinypic.com/xcmbkj.jpg)
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Interesting! Looking forward to the blog entry
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Spot the box related to a recent blog article!