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General Cricket => World Cricket => Australia => Topic started by: Aussie In England on November 04, 2015, 06:33:43 PM
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So little brother is in town again to give big brother something to think about. First Test starts tonight at the Gabba.
Australia XI:
Warner, Burns, Khawaja, Smith(c), Voges, M. Marsh, Nevill(w/k), Johnson, Starc, Lyon and Hazlewood
New Zealand XI:
Latham, Guptill, Williamson, Taylor, McCullum(c), Neesham, Watling(w/k), Craig, Bracewell, Southee and Boult.
I'm sickened that Siddle has been axed again after his fantastic performance at the Oval. The batting looks very thin...
As for New Zealand it's Bracewell over Henry which seems a fair call after all Bracewell took 9/60 last time he played Australia.
I'm fearing Boult could rip apart the inexperienced Australian batting lineup.
Should be a cracking series!!!
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Both got cracking bowling line ups, not quite Broad and Anderson though ;)
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This on TV over here??
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This on TV over here??
Starts on Sky Sports 1 at midnight tonight
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I'm getting two hours kip today, loving the amount of test cricket on
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Both got cracking bowling line ups, not quite Broad and Anderson though ;)
Australia's lack of test quality spinners is apparent. The selectors would give their left nut for someone like Moeen Ali
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Australia's lack of test quality spinners is apparent. The selectors would give their left nut for someone like Moeen Ali
Bit harsh on Lyon who holds his own against most teams.
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Had heard that, Lyon does a good job i thought! Seems to be a shortage of decent test level spinners everywhere. "Spinners Academies" or whatever they are called are being set up everywhere
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Bit harsh on Lyon who holds his own against most teams.
He does okay, but he's no Nathan Hauritz.
What happened to him?
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I'd swap Lyon for any of our spinners.
Doesn't have the 'mystery' that Ali and Rashied supposedly posses, but dip, bounce and most importantly, CONTROL.
I'll be tuning in, love the Southern Hemisphere watching times as a night owl
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I'd swap Lyon for any of our spinners.
Doesn't have the 'mystery' that Ali and Rashied supposedly posses, but dip, bounce and most importantly, CONTROL.
I'll be tuning in, love the Southern Hemisphere watching times as a night owl
I was just trying to get our Aussie friend to nibble but nobody else wanted to play :(
As for the mystery Ali and Rashid posses, it's a mystery to me why the seem to deal almost exclusively in half trackers, half volleys and full bungers! ???
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Whatever happened to Hamish Rutherford?
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Am I the only one who thinks NZ will destroy Aus?
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Am I the only one who thinks NZ will destroy Aus?
My William hill balance is significantly lighter thanks to that same opinion. Also first Aus wicket to fall in the first 26 runs hoping boult tears into them.
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My William hill balance is significantly lighter thanks to that same opinion. Also first Aus wicket to fall in the first 26 runs hoping boult tears into them.
if this was in NZ - there would be zero doubt of that happening. now, Aus has a 40 pct chance.
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Have to say...living in the US is pretty awesome right now. Wake up early to watch eng vs pak.. then Ram Slam / WI-SL / Ind-SA.. and then NZ Aus in the evening.
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Just switched on and seen the teams, oh wow that Aussie batting lineup is in trouble facing Boult and Southee. Standard of pace bowling around the world is actually starting to get real good in tests atm, with a lot of top class batsmen calling it a day we could be in for a few years of low totals again. Here's to the quick bowlers.
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Anybody think if burns is out than Smith will come in? Ie. Keep the right/left combo?
Southee bowling beautifully.
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Surely not?
mcCullum mindgames have started already, love it. Midwicket in, out, in, out, in
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Is it a recent thing for all the NZ players to be wearing whatever trousers they want? Brendan in Puma, Mark Craig GN, I think Southee had some Adidas ones
Have Canterbury not delivered their trousers?
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Safe to say Australia's session. Saw off a tough new ball attack and then cashed in. 0/100 at lunch sounds delicious
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Safe to say Australia's session. Saw off a tough new ball attack and then cashed in. 0/100 at lunch sounds delicious
it really is unbelievable how no country is a global superpower in cricket...everyone is a master in their own backyard, but falls apart on tour (perhaps S.A proves to be the exception)
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Just switched on and seen the teams, oh wow that Aussie batting lineup is in trouble facing Boult and Southee. Standard of pace bowling around the world is actually starting to get real good in tests atm, with a lot of top class batsmen calling it a day we could be in for a few years of low totals again. Here's to the quick bowlers.
Yeah real trouble... 1/297 haha
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Big davey Warner going for 200 in a day.
It's just not test cricket. Lol
His bat looks different, less edge, but still a massive spine, duckbill and some concaving. Looks good!
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Big davey Warner going for 200 in a day.
It's just not test cricket. Lol
His bat looks different, less edge, but still a massive spine, duckbill and some concaving. Looks good!
Does look very scalloped with regular edges. Looks like he got a Signature one off the shelf at a local store rather than his usual bat. Shame he's out now :/
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5 years in the making, throw in a serious knee injury as well, but Usman Khawaja finally belongs after making a quite sensational century at the Gabba. Quite fitting the captain of Queensland getting his first hundred on his own patch.
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Just switched on and seen the teams, oh wow that Aussie batting lineup is in trouble facing Boult and Southee. Standard of pace bowling around the world is actually starting to get real good in tests atm, with a lot of top class batsmen calling it a day we could be in for a few years of low totals again. Here's to the quick bowlers.
Problem is they're not quick, quite pop gun when it's not swinging and seaming. Test will be how well we bowl on a very good wicket and with 2 left armers that never seem to bowl well together.
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Problem is they're not quick, quite pop gun when it's not swinging and seaming. Test will be how well we bowl on a very good wicket and with 2 left armers that never seem to bowl well together.
Only watched the first session but didn't think they bowled very well after Southees initial burst. That said, I've thought for anfew years now that the Kookaburra ball should be done away with completely, test cricket should involve a ball that swings. Kookaburras load it too much in favour of the batsmen.
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Haha yeah that's it.. It's the balls fault ???
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Haha yeah that's it.. It's the balls fault ???
Nothing to do with today really, but the game is poorer using it. Don't take my word for it, ask the West Indies, who've binned it in favour of the Dukes. Or Ricky Pointing, who think Australia should do the same. Or Botham, etc etc.
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NZ looking second rate when the bowl doesn't swing, I expect Smith to cash in tomorrow and crack another hundred.
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Maybe they do need to change the ball but they have used it in Australia for years.. How does it make it poorer all of a sudden
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Not all of a sudden, it just does. The ball moving, whether swing seam or spin should be a part of the game, the kook ball takes too much of that away, so on a flat pitch the game is loaded far too much towards whoever wins the toss.
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Also this spinner that New Zealand picked belongs in park cricket
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Stayed up to watch the first session last night. It was like a game of cat and mouse with McCullum and his field settings and changes. When he packed the offside for a couple of deliveries to Warner, then last ball of over swapped it all completely to leg-side. Think the comms summed it up well though after the first 20 overs, he'd tried allsorts, including bowling changes and nothing was bringing any success or even looking like it. Burns and Warner batted very well up to Lunch, missed the rest but will be sure to catch up on it tonight. How nice is it to see the game played on a huge pitch with what looks like a lovely wicket
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Hopefully that ton signals the beginning of big things for Khawaja been a big fan of his since he started playing for NSW, looked for a while with injuries ect he might not get back to test level. I'd like to see one type of ball used for all test cricket, preferably the dukes more enjoyable to watch when it's doing a bit.
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How big is the gabba??
Warner just ran his 3rd all run 4(yes I'm watching the replay)
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New Zealand's bowling was dreadful. Aside from Southee, the rest where all over the shop. Mark Craig in particular was awful, bowling far too short.
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We are in a lot of trouble here. 700+ declared. I would expect the Aussie quicks to bounce the (No swearing) out of our batsman. Had high hopes for our boys so I hope they turn it around today.
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We are in a lot of trouble here. 700+ declared. I would expect the Aussie quicks to bounce the (No swearing) out of our batsman. Had high hopes for our boys so I hope they turn it around today.
700?
Kiwis are one pole away from the Aussie tail...
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Massive crowd then...
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Massive crowd then...
16000 on a working day isn't bad. It looks empty as the stadium is huge.
Kiwis bowling much better today, it's swinging, bouncing and seaming this morning.
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Heck of a ball from Boult
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Any chance the kiwis might double declare here and have a couple of extra days off?
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Left arm pace causing issues here.
I'd rather watch this, lots of quicks on a hard bounced pitch, than 3 spinners on a rough dust bowl.
Just makes better test cricket to me.
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Not all of a sudden, it just does. The ball moving, whether swing seam or spin should be a part of the game, the kook ball takes too much of that away, so on a flat pitch the game is loaded far too much towards whoever wins the toss.
No matter what pitch, what ball and what country whoever wins the toss has the advantage. Any team batting second if they are good enough they can win. Don't blame the ball for the game being poorer in Australia... There has been great cricket been played for a very long time... I certainly wouldn't call it poor.
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No matter what pitch, what ball and what country whoever wins the toss has the advantage. Any team batting second if they are good enough they can win. Don't blame the ball for the game being poorer in Australia... There has been great cricket been played for a very long time... I certainly wouldn't call it poor.
Australia isn't the only country using the Kookaburra bud! Captains should have a choice to make at the toss, batting first is a foregone conclusion far too much.
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it pains me to say this but I like Punters idea of giving the away captain the toss as I think we would see vastly different pitches prepared and maybe different choice in balls
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How differently do you think they would prepare the Gabba wicket?
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Not sure as not been watching it to comment
I just doubt pitches like in the sub continent or in England would be as tilted in favour of the home side if this was the case
Home countries would push groundsmen to produce even wickets that would give a bit for bat and ball
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I can't imagine a fairer wicket than the Gabba to be honest. As for home countries I don't have an issue with home countries playing to their strengths, it probably hurts them more than helps in the long run. Look at India for example, they are pitiful anywhere but on rolled dirt and can't produce a quick for love nor money.
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just makes poor viewing for me as its a big factor I think In India not producing decent quicks and England not producing a decent spinner
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it pains me to say this but I like Punters idea of giving the away captain the toss as I think we would see vastly different pitches prepared and maybe different choice in balls
I think you would get boring cricket.
A team goes to Asia/Aus/England even and will want to bat first. Why? Well the home team is going to be fearful of having to bat last, so the word goes out to the groundsman to prepare a road. Can't afford it to be green early on and get stuck in, or make it rag from day 1. This means it will be 700 v 600 and we'll have loads of draws. Alternating the toss won't help either as the home team will prep the wickets like above for the away team and get made to order decks for when they have the toss.
Best option is to get a ball with a proper seam and hardness and make batting more difficult irrespective of the wicket. Get something that reverses, big seam that helps the spinners turn it more and the seams to get prolonged movement and bounce. How much more interesting was the ashes when the England prepared english wickets that did something all the way through.
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if they prepared roads every game the pitch would be reported and that board fined
A lot of boards are producing roads anyway as they want 5 days of gate receipts
I know it will never change but it is getting very boring for me that sides just cant play away from home anymore as 8/10 series seem to go with the home side
put it down to players, prep, balls, pitches or whatever but I know for a fact what pitches etc will be prepared for Pak next year
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if they prepared roads every game the pitch would be reported and that board fined
A lot of boards are producing roads anyway as they want 5 days of gate receipts
I know it will never change but it is getting very boring for me that sides just cant play away from home anymore as 8/10 series seem to go with the home side
put it down to players, prep, balls, pitches or whatever but I know for a fact what pitches etc will be prepared for Pak next year
Can't fine teams for prepping good wickets, as you said they want 5 days of gate receipts.
I would rather have a team have to deal with different conditions than have all wickets uniform. England lost in no small part to not winning a single toss. Had they had first use of the surface for the 2nd test in particular, things might of been different. That's the joy of the toss, sometimes the away team get the rub of the green and have home advantage evened up. However the visitors shouldn't just be given it and losing away from home is sometimes self inflicted. Teams aren't winning away from home because they also no longer play enough warm up games and properly adapt to the conditions. Had England had 4 games in the UAE before the tests they might of stuck James Taylor in from the start and called on a proper spinner like Tredwell instead of Samit.
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you can and have to fine boards if they produce road after road as who wants to watch 500 plays 500, may as well just set up a bowling machine at either end
I agree about different conditions but I hate win the toss win the game matches but might just be me
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I think you would get boring cricket.
A team goes to Asia/Aus/England even and will want to bat first. Why? Well the home team is going to be fearful of having to bat last, so the word goes out to the groundsman to prepare a road. Can't afford it to be green early on and get stuck in, or make it rag from day 1. This means it will be 700 v 600 and we'll have loads of draws. Alternating the toss won't help either as the home team will prep the wickets like above for the away team and get made to order decks for when they have the toss.
Best option is to get a ball with a proper seam and hardness and make batting more difficult irrespective of the wicket. Get something that reverses, big seam that helps the spinners turn it more and the seams to get prolonged movement and bounce. How much more interesting was the ashes when the England prepared english wickets that did something all the way through.
I think the best option is to have all test match series as either 3 or a 5 match series. Then who ever wins the 1st toss then get to choose what to do on the 1st, 3rd and 5th tests. I agree the home team will manufacture a pitch to suit them knowing the opposition have choice of whether to bat or not, but doesn't this happen already??... England produce a seamers wicket relying on our seamers being better than the oppositions. India/Pakistan turning wickets for spinners etc etc.
However if Alistair Cook had had the choice of what to do in the 2nd test he would have batted 1st and if a decent batting performance was made they would have won the test. Same can be said of pitches in India and possibly Sri Lanka... 90% of the time if you win toss and bat 1st you will not lose the test match...
I personally think its not a fair game of cricket if winning the toss has a MASSIVE say on the outcome of the test. There is nothing you can do about overhead conditions so if you are put in to bat, then its down to a batsmans skill to survive until conditions change, however in Asia, I would fancy many county teams to make 300+ in having 1st use of those wickets.
I appreciate that there is no "bulletproof" solution but surely alternating the toss after the 1st toss has been won would be easier than trying to manufacture a new cricket ball that everyone would have to be happy with for it to be introduced in all test series. :)
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I believe a version of the Dukes ball already exists in aus and has been tested on first class cricket.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/yourbusiness/10552120/No-Ashes-but-cricket-ball-maker-Dukes-up-for-a-match-with-Kookaburra.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/yourbusiness/10552120/No-Ashes-but-cricket-ball-maker-Dukes-up-for-a-match-with-Kookaburra.html)
Problem is cricket Australia don't want to go against kooks. Far easier to use a ball that already exists than to get agreement on tosses and it won't solve the issue. One test in India the oppo have the toss and its 700 each, next test India have the toss and its turning sideways on day one.
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I believe a version of the Dukes ball already exists in aus and has been tested on first class cricket. Problem is cricket Australia don't want to go against kooks. Far easier to use a ball that already exists than to get agreement on tosses and it won't solve the issue. One test in India the oppo have the toss and its 700 each, next test India have the toss and its turning sideways on day one.
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So therefore is the problem in cricket, India and Australia not doing as we want.. ;) ;)
Seriously though, I think that the toss option would be accepted over the option of having a new ball if countries HAD to choose between either option.. But what do in know... I thought DRS, Snicko etc was a no brainer... ;) ;)
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There's absolutely nothing wrong the the Kookaburra ball. McGrath, Lillee, Warne etc all bowled with it and they turned out pretty decent.
Whether they use a Kooka or a Duke, unless every match is played at Hobart, it's pretty unlikely that the ball will swing around corners anyway...
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There's absolutely nothing wrong the the Kookaburra ball. McGrath, Lillee, Warne etc all bowled with it and they turned out pretty decent.
Whether they use a Kooka or a Duke, unless every match is played at Hobart, it's pretty unlikely that the ball will swing around corners anyway...
You are probably right but Botham's view of the kook ball is pretty much unprintable and he knows a bit about swing bowling.
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Aus vs NZ game is pretty boring. Odd good ball or spell of bowling but mainly just a machine net for the batsmen, this isn't 'testing' them at all. NZ barely looked bothered when batting.
500+ is simply too many runs and ruins the game. This game will Fizzle away into obscurity for all but Aussies who only care about winning
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Aus vs NZ game is pretty boring. Odd good ball or spell of bowling but mainly just a machine net for the batsmen, this isn't 'testing' them at all. NZ barely looked bothered when batting.
500+ is simply too many runs and ruins the game. This game will Fizzle away into obscurity for all but Aussies who only care about winning
New Zealand are 157 for 5.
Having watching it live this morning, I can tell you Taylor and mcullum were very very bothered as they were both done over by some hostile quick and accurate bowling.
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Aus vs NZ game is pretty boring. Odd good ball or spell of bowling but mainly just a machine net for the batsmen, this isn't 'testing' them at all. NZ barely looked bothered when batting.
500+ is simply too many runs and ruins the game. This game will Fizzle away into obscurity for all but Aussies who only care about winning
Fairly sure the objective is to pile on the runs in the first innings mate and try bat your opponent out of the match. And of course the Australians only care about winning, welcome to professional sport.
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Williamson has made that ton look easy. With the commentators who are gushing in praise of Williamson. Lovely technique and footwork.Takes a fair bit to make the Aussies at the gabba look like pub bowlers (especially Johnson ;-)
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Aus vs NZ game is pretty boring. Odd good ball or spell of bowling but mainly just a machine net for the batsmen, this isn't 'testing' them at all. NZ barely looked bothered when batting.
500+ is simply too many runs and ruins the game. This game will Fizzle away into obscurity for all but Aussies who only care about winning
Negative Tripe.
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The beauty of cricket is playing against adversity, next people will want it all indoors so weather can't affect anything.
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Kiwis in a world of strife now.
100 for burns (joe, not the more talented Rory, clearly, easy to mistake there)
Warner now with a second hundred in the match. What a player he is. It is the 3rd time he has made twin hundreds in a game. That is how an opener should play.
Nearly 500 ahead coming up to the close of day 3
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Is this game on sky? Can only see the IndvsSa game
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I was listening on sports extra.
Separately how good is Kane Williamson. An amazing ton from him today.
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Pity he had no support though...
I thought both innings partnerships by Warner and Burns were spectacular
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Yeah he's very good, would love him batting at 3 for us.
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Is this game on sky? Can only see the IndvsSa game
Too late now, but I believe it was on Sky sports 3 starting at midnight
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Is this game on sky? Can only see the IndvsSa game
It is on sky, starting about midnight ish. SA vs ind game hen starts on he next channel about 0300 ish. Been a good week (as it should be) for proper cricket potential viewing.
They are advertising $30 online subscription for all international cricket in aus if you have decent internet and want to watch it all and don't have sky etc.
It was going to be a good part of my weekend but I'm not watching a run fest, baring the odd spell there is not test in this game. I'm not sat here thinking anything could happen next ball.. Sat here thinking 'more runs coming'. NZ to fold and lose by at least 300 easily, they simply won't chase it. Just go out and not play a shot other than a defence. If it gets to day five and NZ are still in it it'll get interesting.
Ps doesn't mean those lads didn't bat well, because Warner, burns and Kane did but it was (odd spell apart) too easy and they could just hit through the line. It wasn't seaming, swinging (very tiny amount for a tiny time) etc
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They are advertising $30 online subscription for all international cricket in aus if you have decent internet and want to watch it all and don't have sky etc.
It was going to be a good part of my weekend but I'm not watching a run fest, baring the odd spell there is not test in this game. I'm not sat here thinking anything could happen next ball.. Sat here thinking 'more runs coming'. NZ to fold and lose by at least 300 easily, they simply won't chase it. Just go out and not play a shot other than a defence. If it gets to day five and NZ are still in it it'll get interesting.
Ps doesn't mean those lads didn't bat well, because Warner, burns and Kane did but it was (odd spell apart) too easy and they could just hit through the line. It wasn't seaming, swinging (very tiny amount for a tiny time) etc
It was certainly swinging and seaming on day 2, boult had it moving all around. Hazlewood has gotten consistent swing, pitch has the classic tennis ball bounce that wasn't there last year. Don't underestimate how poorly the Kiwis have bowled though, Boult has generally been too short (we can't play the full swinging ball), Craig has been rubbish, Bracewell and Neesham haven't pressured anyone and Southee is injured. Even the Aussies have been rubbish at times, Johnson giving too much width and almost no bouncers, Hazlewood overpitching etc.
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Aus vs NZ game is pretty boring. Odd good ball or spell of bowling but mainly just a machine net for the batsmen, this isn't 'testing' them at all. NZ barely looked bothered when batting.
500+ is simply too many runs and ruins the game. This game will Fizzle away into obscurity for all but Aussies who only care about winning
Your spot on with regard to the Aussies.
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Do you not play to win? Especially when your getting paid and its your job to win games...
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He is a piss taker Jenko with a chip on his shoulder, not really worth biting at the dribble.
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Lyon bowling a bit straight and could probably throw a few up. Finally gets one outside off and gets a wicket!
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He is a piss taker Jenko with a chip on his shoulder, not really worth biting at the dribble.
Ha
It's difficult to take anyone seriously when there forum name reminds me of Australia's most famous kangaroo.
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Did I accidentally sign up to a school boys forum?
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Did I accidentally sign up to a school boys forum?
It does seem like it at times...
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Guptil finally showing fight, 23 off 100+ balls. Batting for he draw, never going to chase 500 so simply play no shots other than defence.
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Can't believe the Aussies had the hide and audacity to even think about winning this game ;)
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Can't believe the Aussies had the hide and audacity to even think about winning this game ;)
Disgraceful wasn't it, not the way test cricket was meant to be, 4 1/2 days of runs and wickets played on a great surface.... How boring!
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Anyone got a video/GIF of Boult's 'flamingo' shot?!
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Ah, found it
(http://94.23.103.63/GIFs/029156145065194213015151029091073025102167010014/LQ/135194145197179183169082020205200209094238064107.gif)
Proper tailender's shot
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Good to see the Kiwi's are just as rubbish at playing in Australia as England. I thought we had a monopoly on crap overseas performances.
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Also Starc got a 50% match fee fine for throwing the ball at Mark Craig, boyyyyyy that bloke has some anger issues. Remember when him and Kieron Pollard went at it?
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Also Starc got a 50% match fee fine for throwing the ball at Mark Craig, boyyyyyy that bloke has some anger issues. Remember when him and Kieron Pollard went at it?
No but I remember the Ben Stokes one. It's what we expect from the Aussies Also Throwing the ball at a batsman is not on you could see Starc had 3 stumps to aim at fined 50 percent of his match is a joke should have been banned.
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I can't find said video but from what I get it's a slightly different because he's not even aiming at the stumps.
Starc v Pollard
(http://youtu.be/UoW1n1sa2YU)
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Also Starc got a 50% match fee fine for throwing the ball at Mark Craig, boyyyyyy that bloke has some anger issues. Remember when him and Kieron Pollard went at it?
Match fee's don't mean anything to players any more, they earn way to much to worry about that!
Happens far too often from him! About time a bowler returned the favour when he's batting!
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Yes ban him definitely
http://youtu.be/lC69eibcoYE (http://youtu.be/lC69eibcoYE)
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Ooops sorry wrong video
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Bloody aussies!
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Overall a good batting display from Australia. Warner once again confirming he's the best opener in Test cricket(joining legends like Sunny and Punter by scoring tons in each innings a third time). Joe Burns and Ussie Khawaja taking their opportunities to nail down Test places for the next couple of series.
The bowling on the other hand was lackluster. Might be time for Mitch Johnson to hang up the bowling boots. Hazlewood didn't really show all that much either. Starc was a best bowler again and Lyon was as reliable as ever.
For the WACA I'd like Siddle to replace Hazlewood(it won't happen) and Pattinson to replace Johnson(again won't happen.
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For the WACA I'd like Siddle to replace Hazlewood(it won't happen) and Pattinson to replace Johnson(again won't happen.
Haha the Ashes is safe with England for a few more years if Pattinson replaces Johnson!
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Overall a good batting display from Australia. Warner once again confirming he's the best opener in Test cricket(joining legends like Sunny and Punter by scoring tons in each innings a third time). Joe Burns and Ussie Khawaja taking their opportunities to nail down Test places for the next couple of series.
Warner has been awesome but for me Cook is the best opener in Test cricket, the one problem I have with Warner is the way he sometimes struggles to knuckle down when needed, although to be fair this is probably outweighed by his particularly good stats in the 3rd/4th innings of games! I think if you were picking a World XI at the moment you would struggle to go past a Cook/Warner opening partnership with Warner's explosiveness and Cook's insatiable greed for runs I think you'd be on to a winner haha!
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No but I remember the Ben Stokes one. It's what we expect from the Aussies Also Throwing the ball at a batsman is not on you could see Starc had 3 stumps to aim at fined 50 percent of his match is a joke should have been banned.
Do you sit down to piss?
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Haha the Ashes is safe with England for a few more years if Pattinson replaces Johnson!
That's Pattinson with 51 poles @ 27? Yeah thought so...
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Do you sit down to piss?
Unlike Uncouth Australians on here cannot subscribe to behaviour which may cause injury to another player.
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You girls stopped being petty yet?
Anyway, the mighty Warner continues. Yet another big innings from the non test/odi slogger.
His conversion rates are ridiculous.
Khawaja also going well, and quickly. He may catch Warner at this rate.
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Warner has been awesome but for me Cook is the best opener in Test cricket, the one problem I have with Warner is the way he sometimes struggles to knuckle down when needed, although to be fair this is probably outweighed by his particularly good stats in the 3rd/4th innings of games! I think if you were picking a World XI at the moment you would struggle to go past a Cook/Warner opening partnership with Warner's explosiveness and Cook's insatiable greed for runs I think you'd be on to a winner haha!
Cook and Warner would be the ultimate opening pair imo, one knows how to stick around and grind out a big score, while the other attacks beautifully and puts the opening bowlers on the back foot from over one.
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NZ are a joke, terrible bowling and they have no idea with the reviews, deserve all they get.
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The Warner review was knocking middle peg out of the ground, a few mm lower and it would have been out.
Hardly a terrible review(granted i haven't seen the other).
Can't be as bad as England's review vs Pakistan! Lol
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NZ are a joke, terrible bowling and they have no idea with the reviews, deserve all they get.
every team is a "joke" when on tour.. The Aussies themselves got absolutely annihilated in the UAE - massive margins of defeat, AND they conceded the fastest test 100....to Misbah "tuk tuk" ul Haq of all people.
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every team is a "joke" when on tour.. The Aussies themselves got absolutely annihilated in the UAE - massive margins of defeat, AND they conceded the fastest test 100....to Misbah "tuk tuk" ul Haq of all people.
Not just the uae, their sub continent record has been probably the worst out of the big teams. A lot of innings defeats.
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NZ are a joke, terrible bowling
This, it's poor poor cricket people surely want to see a higher standard of cricket in tests ? This is just average
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This, it's poor poor cricket
Granted poor bowling.
A joke? After cleaning up England in the last test? Lets say we are struggling in an unfamiliar environment.
Harsh.
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Granted poor bowling.
A joke? After cleaning up England in the last test? Lets say we are struggling in an unfamiliar environment.
Harsh.
I'm just talking about one game. This one game has been farcical, bowling is just so poor. Fair play to the aus batsmen they are cashing in to buffet but if you love your test cricket this isn't it. Personally I'd kind of built this series up as probably one of the better ones as both sides (I thought) were good bowling and both batting was frail with the odd decent player.
Sigh, try sledging England too but they are as much a joke in tests.. We play buttler and moeen as opener ffs
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Way too many 4 balls. Saying that, these decks are absolute roads and our swing bowlers who are mid 130kph are like cannon fodder.
I'm still enjoying watching cricket at 8pm at night.
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I'm just talking about one game. This one game has been farcical, bowling is just so poor. Fair play to the aus batsmen they are cashing in to buffet but if you love your test cricket this isn't it. Personally I'd kind of built this series up as probably one of the better ones as both sides (I thought) were good bowling and both batting was frail with the odd decent player.
Sigh, try sledging England too but they are as much a joke in tests.. We play buttler and moeen as opener ffs
Yeah, I was looking forward to this series. South and Boult need swing. There is none. Kabooooooooom
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pretty sure Aus would be decimated had this been played in NZ. similar to what Pak seamers did to Aus in the tests "hosted" in England.
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pretty sure Aus would be decimated had this been played in NZ. similar to what Pak seamers did to Aus in the tests "hosted" in England.
If you know a batsmen can't/struggle to play a moving ball why koo over it when they biff on a road when it's like the m25 ? That's what I don't get with people, ok they are scoring runs but it's not a challenge, it's not testing their stamina, technique etc. At which point, meh.. It's not test cricket.
Everyone pretty much looks at 2005 ashes as a bench mark.. You didn't score easy runs, you didn't get a let up in bowling.l and each bowler was good or better.. That's what test cricket should be
Meh, maybe the game has surpassed test cricket and it's just time for people like me to accept it is doomed. I've given the game until 2018 to convince me it's not just getting more hitty, otherwise I'll be walking away from sky sports and from following pro cricket as others have already done.
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Well..this is a "test" for the bowlers. The great fast bowlers of the past worked out ways to get batters out on roads.
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2005
Did England not get put in to bat and then score something ridicolous on the first day similar to this??
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Think they got 400 in a day at Edgbaston didn't they?
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Wake up, check scorecard. OK.
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Think they got 400 in a day at Edgbaston didn't they?
Wasn't that in 2009?
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Davey boy you beauty!!! Gotta be gunning for Lara's 400!
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Wasn't that in 2009?
You had me doubting myself so I've just double checked on Cricinfo:
Close of play
Thu, 4 Aug - day 1 - England 1st innings 407
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Wasn't that in 2009?
History not my strong point. 2009 must have been a poor year for cricket then.
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Back to the present, Davey Warner double hundred.
He may look like a caveman swinging his club, but the bloke certainly knows how to score/bludgeon runs.
I actually quite like him as a player, not one for the purists, but certainly an entertainer.
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The guy is awesome. He is like Trescothic on steroids.
Warner is creaming the second (well third) new ball.
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Soooooo, 5-0 in 2017, right?
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Looking at the scorecard on BBC, is Warner eyeing up 250 before the close?
Hasn't hung around since bringing up his double!
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nice to see a board show faith in a player who was branded a poo and giggle T20 player at the start of his career but with the faith shown in him he has blossomed into probably the best opener in test cricket at the moment
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Reckon with the pace Warner can score at the record is in trouble tomorrow? He could do it without taking that much time out of the game?
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why does Usman Khawaja button up his shirt like the kid who gets wedgies in school?
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Reckon with the pace Warner can score at the record is in trouble tomorrow? He could do it without taking that much time out of the game?
Bat all day and he'll have 500!
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No way was smith sending a nightwatchman in against this bowling line up! cash in!
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Also Warner getting the new ball replaced after smashing it down after one over was A+
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Blimey you don't see this everyday in test match. Well done New Zealand on bowling 90 overs in the day!
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might receive some flack for this but Dave Warner is just the ultimate flat track bully - near enough found out in England, different animal in Aus
big fan of watching him bat though, love an aggressive left hander
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Soooooo, 5-0 in 2017, right?
Probably 0-0
The wickets are so dull down here these days, even the classic WACA doesn't have any greenery, no light cracking on day 1, just flat as a tack like Adelaide, Melbourne and kinda Brisbane.
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might receive some flack for this but Dave Warner is just the ultimate flat track bully - near enough found out in England, different animal in Aus
big fan of watching him bat though, love an aggressive left hander
Really?
4th in the runs in the last ashes series with the most half centuries (5) at an average of 46 is found out?
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might receive some flack for this but Dave Warner is just the ultimate flat track bully - near enough found out in England, different animal in Aus
big fan of watching him bat though, love an aggressive left hander
Warner wasn't found out in England, he just wasn't able to hit through the line like he can on flat tracks. The guy in fairness has developed a hell of a lot since hit and giggle Warner but he is still a FTB when there is feck all movement to keep him checked. NZ have again bowled like drains. I had hoped for a cracking series between these teams but I tuned out after 45 overs I'm afraid. Just not enjoyable, if I want to see this batting I'd watch odis.
Still, seems people prefer the type of tests so hey ho.
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Id watch any test cricket no matter how one sided it looks, I love it.
A test match double hundred is tough no matter where you score it. I just hope NZ can come out and Kane scores a triple.
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I do think something needs to be done about bats though. Warner's is ridiculous. His miss hits go miles.
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Really?
4th in the runs in the last ashes series with the most half centuries (5) at an average of 46 is found out?
Perhaps found out was a bit harsh. I'm a massive fan of Warner I love watching him bat, when he's on song in the Aus pitches he's an absolute beast with the bat.
What I meant was that it's a massive difference between how he plays in Aus than how he plays abroad where comparatively his strengths are more contained.
I don't buy into the argument that he doesn't have the technique/nous for test cricket but he's certainly more susceptible abroad than when batting in aus
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Warner pulverized South Africa in South Africa not so long ago. Their attack isn't exactly average either....
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We need a rethink on the pitches that are supplied. For the love of cricket put some green on them
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Agreed on the pitch, this was nothing like a perth wicket. I wouldn't like all pitch's to end up the same.
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Agreed on the pitch, this was nothing like a perth wicket. I wouldn't like all pitch's to end up the same.
Well unfortunately next time England swing by they'll be playing in the new Perth stadium, with another drop-in. Will be more like melbourne, an actual road.
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Got to love a bit of karma in cricket, khawaja nicking one behind and not walking and then tears a hamstring in the field
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Got to love a bit of karma in cricket, khawaja nicking one behind and not walking and then tears a hamstring in the field
Geez mate, nice guy you are!!!
What about when he got given in England, DRS showed he didn't hit it, but was still given out. Maybe the other day was karma for that
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Got to love a bit of karma in cricket, khawaja nicking one behind and not walking and then tears a hamstring in the field
Slightly harsh, not sure anyone deserves a fairly serious injury (especially one whose already had to go through a knee injury).. Ok, maybe sloggers but still :)
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Got to love a bit of karma in cricket, khawaja nicking one behind and not walking and then tears a hamstring in the field
Wow thats intense!
As much as i dislike people that don't walk, I couldn't wish an injury on them especially after having 3 ACL reconstructions myself in 1 year!
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Got to love a bit of karma in cricket, khawaja nicking one behind and not walking and then tears a hamstring in the field
Well maybe he will learn from it and walk next time doubt it though he's an Aussie they never walk.
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Well maybe he will learn from it and walk next time doubt it though he's an Aussie they never walk.
Yeah cheats
http://youtu.be/IaX4_U1EsNA (http://youtu.be/IaX4_U1EsNA)
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Ooops wrong video again.... Sorry guys my mistake
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How pathetic has this thread got.
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Why's Khawaja getting bagged for not walking? New Zealand wasted their reviews and therefore paid the price when r=the umpire made an error...
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Ooops wrong video again.... Sorry guys my mistake
Ooppps, wrong video
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=CLpxMSoEIYI
Dam, meant this one
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nhtdQHrAPaE
No wait
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr8lJMOL-D8
Oh, so so many of Aussies cheating
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=l41i8uIyY7I
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Now now cmon lads we could put videos up all day of cricketers claiming dodgy catches, not walking etc from all nations. Everyone's guilty of it!!! Remember that one time when prior took the bails off and claimed MJ was bowled! I so recall Indians claiming catches off clear bump balls. They all do it.
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Anyway back onto the cricket being played....the Aussies need to see the back of Williamson and Mccullum today or I'll be laying some cash on the draw
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Anyway back onto the cricket being played....the Aussies need to see the back of Williamson and Mccullum today or I'll be laying some cash on the draw
This game will be nothing other than a easy win. NZ will collapse 100+ short, aus will biff 300+ ahead and NZ will fail to survive the 6 sessions
Williamson is a class apart from the rest. So so so classy
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Yeah cheats
[url]http://youtu.be/IaX4_U1EsNA[/url] ([url]http://youtu.be/IaX4_U1EsNA[/url])
To be fair nobody in England likes Broad so we'll give you that one!
Ok, I liked him a bit when he got 8-15 but that feeling didn't last Iong [emoji2]
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This game will be nothing other than a easy win. NZ will collapse 100+ short, aus will biff 300+ ahead and NZ will fail to survive the 6 sessions
Williamson is a class apart from the rest. So so so classy
I'm backing nz to bat until tea time of day 4 with a lead of 150 and then shoot aus out on a turning deck thanks to Craig getting 9-56.
Yep, that's a complete load of bs apart from Williamson smacking a ton tomorrow.
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Williamson is just all class and Warner not to bad either just a pity the Kooka ball
is not up to the standard as well. May need to look at using (i can't believe i'm saying this)
the DUKE.
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Love watching Williamson. Pure class
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Kane you absolute champion.
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Mccullum's 3.1lbs bat seems unwell :(
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Starc is bowling serious wheels here - finally the bowlers are having a crack! Wonder if that 160.4 was accurate. They are too quick to catch!
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Williamson is just all class and Warner not to bad either just a pity the Kooka ball
is not up to the standard as well. May need to look at using (i can't believe i'm saying this)
the DUKE.
Changed balls so many times, kookaburra ball is useless.. Always has been
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Starc not happy, two dropped catches off his bowling. Just joined the 160km club.
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I'm wondering if Johnson will retire this series. Just getting a feeling watching him he's lost that something and at 34 won't get it back. World cricket will miss his pace because what he did to England was fantastic at highlighting the demise of modern batsmen and it was a joy to watch a genuinely quick bowler in full flight. That's what test cricket is about.
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I think it will either be this one or after the windies series. He ha said he thinks about retirement everyday so I'd say it's definitely coming.
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Cmon the Kiwi's!!
We now have the lead.
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Quote from Mike Hussey "The Kiwi's are probably in front now". As we move onto a massive 33 run lead. So he's not 100% sure the Kiwi's are in front.
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NZ should continue batting till the close of play. Might as well fill your boots with runs on this track!
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No but I remember the Ben Stokes one. It's what we expect from the Aussies Also Throwing the ball at a batsman is not on you could see Starc had 3 stumps to aim at fined 50 percent of his match is a joke should have been banned.
Hypocrite.
Like that douche Broad doesn't throw balls at the batsman.
In fact, I do not remember any outrage on here at all when he clocked that Pakistani batsman back in 2010.
You were all too busy with your head in the sand.
Just a reminder...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC69eibcoYE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC69eibcoYE)
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Don't feed the trolls Vic.
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Hypocrite.
Like that douche Broad doesn't throw balls at the batsman.
In fact, I do not remember any outrage on here at all when he clocked that Pakistani batsman back in 2010.
You were all too busy with your head in the sand.
Just a reminder...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC69eibcoYE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lC69eibcoYE)
Barking up the wrong tree Vic. Not even the English like Broad most of the time (apart from when he gets 8-15 and bowls out Australia by lunch - then he's a legend for 5 minutes).
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Barking up the wrong tree Vic. Not even the English like Broad most of the time (apart from when he gets 8-15 and bowls out Australia by lunch - then he's a legend for 5 minutes).
You are a notable exception Saunders.
Some on here behave like pratts.
Anyways, the pitches in Australia have been deadened since the 2003-04 Indian tour down under.
It is all about 5 day test matches and Indian broadcasting dollars.
Booooorrrrring.
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You are a notable exception Saunders.
Some on here behave like pratts.
Anyways, the pitches in Australia have been deadened since the 2003-04 Indian tour down under.
It is all about 5 day test matches and Indian broadcasting dollars.
Booooorrrrring.
Now broads a prat, everyone knows it. Hopefully he'll be replaced as soon a s possible
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Shaun Marsh added to replace injured Khawaja... Are Australia struggling that badly for young batsmen?
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Bancroft et al must be spewing. Shaun Marsh again?
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Hopefully this will be Marsh's last chance.
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Shaun Marsh added to replace injured Khawaja... Are Australia struggling that badly for young batsmen?
No.
Marsh just gets more opportunities than anyone.
Does this sound like a nation struggling for young batsmen?
http://www.cricket.com.au/news/travis-dean-record-twin-hundreds-sheffield-shield-debut-victoria-mcg-queensland/2015-10-31 (http://www.cricket.com.au/news/travis-dean-record-twin-hundreds-sheffield-shield-debut-victoria-mcg-queensland/2015-10-31)
If the side was a bit more experienced, I have no doubt they would have gone for a younger option.
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I'd understand the inexperienced side thing if he wasn't replacing Khawaja, but particularly when Voges can't have much more than a year in tests left at 36 then it's amazing that they're not putting a younger player in. Hardly being tasked with replacing years of big runs. Don't know too much about the leading first class players but Bancroft has been raved about in certain quarters lately? Marsh was woeful in the game he played in the Ashes, presume he's been picked in the certainty that he'll be dropped for the next series. Rod Marsh still chairman of selectors? ;)
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Moronic decision to once again select Shaun Marsh.
He's actually got more ducks(7) than scores of 50 or more(6) in Test cricket. He lacks the mental capacity to succeed at Test level.
If they didn't want Bancroft then Maxwell or Bailey, whom also are Test capped, have been pretty decent in the Shield thus far.
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what does klinger have to do to get a call up?
Even the aussie press is surprised marsh gets another go after failing so many times
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Read an article on the ca website. There are 17 Australians and 2 New Zealanders(not in the test squads) that have scored more Sheffield shield runs than Shaun marsh this season.
He really must have something on a selector..........
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what does klinger have to do to get a call up?
Even the aussie press is surprised marsh gets another go after failing so many times
Be born 10 years later...
The selection panel really should've given Klinger at shot at Adelaide as it was his former home ground