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Equipment => Bats => Bat Making => Topic started by: nickpain77 on December 01, 2015, 07:58:09 PM
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After having negative feedback on the name Willow wood I've decided to change the name I've recently came up with the name Empire Cricket but my instinct feeling was it had bad connotations to slavery and in asking if anyone thinks this name wouldn't be a good idea
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Much better! Come up with a good logo etc and that'll be alright. Might not sell so well outside England though ha.
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Maybe a problem if you plan to sell abroad, particularly if you include a Union Jack in the design. Additionally, 'the Empire' is the dark side of the force so you could have a take on the Star Wars theme. Some brands including 'bosom bats' may seem totally tacky but some members on here like their stickers. It perhaps totally depends on what the stickers look like.
I have designed and made some stickers and I'm just waiting for fattus to post my blank Bulldog Spirit.
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Much better! Come up with a good logo etc and that'll be alright. Might not sell so well outside England though ha.
No I wouldn't put any flag on the logo the logo will be a Knights Helmet
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Don't think many will think of slavery connections i think linked to the star wars theme could be a good suggestion
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Additionally, 'the Empire' is the dark side of the force so you could have a take on the Star Wars theme.
The Empire as a collective is the legal law enforcement and political party of the Galaxy.
It is only the leader of this and his right hand man who are officially "dark side".
I'd stay away from a Star Wars theme of I were you, you'd only end up getting sued by George Lucas.
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Not sure you can get sued for the word empire. Just because that's what the galactic empire is in Star Wars. There's empires in many many films and booksZ
More likely to get sued for using the word Jedi..... But doesn't seem that has happened.
Look at chase bats to, there green and red ones looks very "light side" "dark side" to me and they haven't been sued either.
But then I'm not entirely sure Disney watches cricket(Disney as Lucas has sold all his rights so has no ground to sue anyway)
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So do you think this name is alright
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Yes
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If you go with a medieval/ancient history (Roman, Egyptian etc.) empire theme, you'll avoid any connotations with the British Empire. That said, whatever you settle on will ultimately depend on a cohesive, unique and clear design theme and/or logo that's executed well. Which takes time and investment. You get what you pay for. Settle on a theme, commission some options, draw up a short list. Don't rush it. Keep us posted. Plenty of free advice and opinion on here!
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I remember a brand called empire cricket, not sure if it's still around.
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much prefer this brand name and it leaves you with a lot of options in terms of branding/designs
interested to see what you come up with :)
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I remember a brand called empire cricket, not sure if it's still around.
They may operate from the shadows.
"Hard to see, the dark side is."
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Bought a bulldog spirit off of fattus and made these stickers at work today. My kids like Star Wars so that was the theme. I decided on Sith because:
A. My surname is Smith so I could make it into SmITH by adding a small M.
B. We only had grey, black and red vinyl in stock.
I have shamelessly ripped off other people's ideas. Anyone with an Aldred or GM may spot them.
All feedback gratefully received.
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http://www.empirecricket.bigcartel.com/product/the-crown (http://www.empirecricket.bigcartel.com/product/the-crown)
empire cricket already up and running, quality lack of stickers!!!! make BB's look like an SS!!!!
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quality Sith bat - however in true Vadar style the feedback would have to be:
"your powers (of sticker creation) are weak old man"!!!
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Oh yeah I've just checked there social media accounts seem to be very inactive don't think they still do it
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Oh yeah I've just checked there social media accounts seem to be very inactive don't think they still do it
It's irrelevant I'm afraid mate, they'll still hold some intellectual rights over the brand if I'm not mistaken - if you launched a new brand called 'Empire Cricket' they could easily get you shut down regardless of how often/how much they're trading - they technically still have a presence online from their minimal website which would be enough (I believe, if I'm wrong someone please correct me!).
To be honest with you, you'll struggle to find a decent name nowadays that hasn't already been done/tried...
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How about Imperial Cricket
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Seems okay, only issue is you'll struggle to get up the google rankings because of these guys;
https://twitter.com/ImperialCricket
They've obviously got the twitter name too
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Stormtrooper cricket?
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How about just Trooper Cricket?
Saves you from being bogged down on the Star Wars theme
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By the way I'm not going with a star wars theme
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Stormtrooper cricket?
Wookie Cricket ?
Then you could have a bat named the 'AAAAAAAARRRRR' after Chewbacca's catchphrase ?
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By the way I'm not going with a star wars theme
well that makes my suggestion defunct.
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How about just Trooper Cricket?
Saves you from being bogged down on the Star Wars theme
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With Iron Maiden style stickers!
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I don't want star wars theme
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Kudos to you though for starting a new brand. Where and who will make your bats if you don't mind me asking?
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If your thinking of empire/imperial route maybe Regalia or Heraldry. But if you want something with a wood theme like you started with maybe Aborist. Then make a massive T20 slogbat and call it the Aborist Lumberjack
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Use the letters from your name or your preferred brand name eg. Empire Cricket = EC. The has worked for SS, RK, Nb etc.
Still think a Star Wars theme would be cooler. Fear will turn you to the dark side.
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Is it just me or when someone says 'empire' I automatically think biscuit not star wars
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Dark Zone Bats
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Is it just me or when someone says 'empire' I automatically think biscuit not star wars
Boom! Can have a set off bats called jaffas. Blue and orange theme.
And two profiles. The biscuit and the cake. Which side are you on!!
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All jokes aside guys do you think Imoerial Cricket is a good name
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As in imperial stormtrooper, or imperial star destroyer? ;)
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How about Regal Cricket?
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As in imperial stormtrooper, or imperial star destroyer? ;)
Imperial mints ;)
Not a fan ha.
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Empire Cricket - https://www.facebook.com/games/howzatcricket#!/337109359648965/photos/pb.337109359648965.-2207520000.1449194481./600119266681305/?type=3&theater (https://www.facebook.com/games/howzatcricket#!/337109359648965/photos/pb.337109359648965.-2207520000.1449194481./600119266681305/?type=3&theater)
Imperial - http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=11736.msg283676#msg283676 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=11736.msg283676#msg283676)
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I'm 90% sure that I'm going for Imperial Cricket
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Imperial sounds really good and stands out a bit more than empire imo
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Thanks
Imperial sounds really good and stands out a bit more than empire imo
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New logo?
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I don't like it, makes me think of the gm imperial. It doesn't stand out for me
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How about Regal Cricket?
This sounds classier
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Really?
I don't like it, makes me think of the gm imperial. It doesn't stand out for me
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I don't like it, makes me think of the gm imperial. It doesn't stand out for me
Whats gm imperial
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New logo?
Looks good, but I would lose the "co"
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Just make it Imperial. no cricket or co or anything. Everybody in the market has cricket in their name, just make it simple and nothing to do with cricket!
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Imperial on it's own reminds me of Imperial Car Supermarket
Maybe keep the cricket but lose the co
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Assuming your name is Nick Pain
Why not just NPC as a name?
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Assuming your name is Nick Pain
My names actually Harry Nick is my dad
No my names Harry my dad's name us nick
Why not just NPC as a name?
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New logo?
I like that - looks really classy
Keep it Imperial Cricket not Imperial that would just sound like Imperial Mints
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Thank you
I like that - looks really classy
Keep it Imperial Cricket not Imperial that would just sound like Imperial Mints
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Big improvement, if you can translate that into a good bat sticker it'll do the job nicely. Agree lose the co. Pain cricket is possibly an opportunity not to be missed though!
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What do you reckon? I like it
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I like them.
Just need to come up with some bat names now.
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I like them.
How about prestige
Just need to come up with some bat names now.
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You could call your big hitters bat
COD
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Try getting hold of an edge stamp with the crown logo, would look good with the minimal stickers
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I'd have the back the same as the front sticker, but that looks spot on! Well done @nickpain77 , huge improvement over the original WW ideas. An edge brand the same would look mint too.
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I quite like the look but my feedback would be to do some research on the brand name before you decide.
1. Can you set up a website in that name?
2. Can you use a FB/twitter/instagram account in that name?
3. Are you looking to sticker up a bat or set up a whole brand? If so does this reflect the brands identity?
4. There are lots of other brands out there, what will make people buy yours over others?
Over all I agree with the other guys, it's a better name than Willow Wood good luck
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Ok thanks for the feedback I'll be keeping the checklist in my
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Why the background pink??
To work as stickers you want to make them as a png file so the pink background becomes clear.
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I'd have the back the same as the front sticker, but that looks spot on! Well done @nickpain77 , huge improvement over the original WW ideas. An edge brand the same would look mint too.
I've created some social media accounts theyre probably going to stay private until I get the stickers printed so I have a product to advertise
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Opinions on the stickers
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Less is more. Back end sticker looks good but the front needs to cover less wood imho like the back in some ways.
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I like them think they'll look better on the bat than they do in the mock up.
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Like these, such a vast improvement on the original willow woof stickers. I don't know how much your willing to spend on the printing but if these were to have all off the black embossed they would be right up there
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I think a clear background would look more classy
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I think I might print in out mettalic silver what do you reckon
Like these, such a vast improvement on the original willow woof stickers. I don't know how much your willing to spend on the printing but if these were to have all off the black embossed they would be right up there
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I am with uknsaunders and nickpain on these, ie less is more, cut the size of the front sticker down and emboss the black....
good luck..
don't know if I missed this, but are you making or stickering bats? if stickering where are you sourcing from uk or abroad?
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Both sides the same as the back in that picture for sure.
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Also I think you could lose the crown off the toe, its just there for the sake of putting something there..
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Personally I think the front sticker is good
The back sticker for me is too general, it looks in shape very similar to a lot of other vrands
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Do you think I should have edge stickers and not have the back stickers
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Aww no Star Wars theme, sad face :(
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Aww no Star Wars theme, sad face :(
Haha :D
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Why not replace the crown with the Galactic Empire symbol instead, that would be awsome :D
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I agree with the Star Wars theme. I thought my stickers were cool though clearly I was wrong. On a serious note, an edge stamp would be better than a sticker. Who is your customer? Your current design I feel would appeal to a more conservative (older) cricketer.
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I guess the sticker design will also be swayed by the style of bats you intend to put them on, traditional or modern or maybe some where in between.
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I guess the sticker design will also be swayed by the style of bats you intend to put them on, traditional or modern or maybe some where in between.
Probably somewhere in the middle
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The front sticker is more modern with the angled bottom edge (like NB or Kook) whilst the back is more retro like a Newbury or Woodstock. I would say pick one style an adjust the other accordingly.
Again, comes down to your business model, what is your style? Where do you see yourself amongst other brands & what makes yours different?
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More expensive but the modern trend is with embossed stickers. The minamilist design is much better
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How about these?
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Much better
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I'll be getting some more drafts to make the back sticker nkce
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Looks sharp buddy.. Still more a fan of the back sticker than the front. In Denmark we're completely banned from using the royal crown unless we're appointed to make stuff for the Queen etc.
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As long as they don't look like Luke Wright's new company's stickers, you will be okay!
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Not the side stickers
As soon as you get an edge they will half peel off, and be dangling about as they are so thin
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Not the side stickers
As soon as you get an edge they will half peel off, and be dangling about as they are so thin
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Yh I probably won't use the side stickers
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The branding is coming along nicely, I'm very impressed.
Not sure what the law's are in the UK but over here in Australia we need to register the "brand" as a business name so nobody else steals it.
Make sure all your legals are right before you go to all this effort for nothing.
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Yes I think this implies in the UK as well and I've checked if thered any imperial Cricket and I can't find anything
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Yes I think this implies in the UK as well and I've checked if thered any imperial Cricket and I can't find anything
Then make sure your register it correctly along with the respective .com and .uk etc...
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What do you prefer
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I like the front and side stickers in the image. Something about back stickers not working for me. May be its too wide.
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This style, but thinner like the original ones you posted. Would lose the toe sticker on the back though, two crown logos and stickers is overkill.
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This style, but thinner like the original ones you posted. Would lose the toe sticker on the back though, two crown logos and stickers is overkill.
What just the back sticker thinner
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What just the back sticker thinner
Front and back thinner, like that look.
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The back sticker reminds me of the Impala bats that were around a few years ago.
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I think this thickness on the back sticker will look great..
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I think this thickness on the back sticker will look great..
Do you like the front sticker in this design
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7 pages and still going round in circles!
I think the general feedback is use the thin sticker design for the front and the back then lose the back sticker.
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Yh I know I might just put a poll deciding the stickers because I really like the first design but everyone else whoa commented says different
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You'll be waiting a long time to find a design that pleases everyone
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Half of the internet is gonna be claiming design credit at this rage! Just go with what you like best, it's your brand idea after all.
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Yh I know I might just put a poll deciding the stickers because I really like the first design but everyone else whoa commented says different
No poll required!
Your brand. Your decision.
You have a preference so go with that, simples. :)