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General Cricket => World Cricket => Australia => Topic started by: csnew on December 04, 2015, 10:27:37 AM
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So West Indies are struggling against a Cricket Australia XI.
I see West Indies getting thrashed and humiliated. Could see Lara's 400 being broken too given how flat some of the wickets in Aus have been.
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This may well be the time for Darren Bravo to step up to a weakened Aussie attack... They are a young side and I hope we see some fight from both sides! Jerome Taylor is a class act and if he is on fire can make a difference to a day.
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I think this may be Jason Holder's time to shine and show how good he can be with bat and ball. They'd need big runs from the middle order too, Samuels and Bravo need to step up as the more senior players.
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Surely they can't do as bad as SA are doing innindia currently?
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Surely they can't do as bad as SA are doing innindia currently?
Challenge accepted! :D
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Current WI team is Clive Lloyd's puppet show. I would stand up and applaud for this team if they can manage to avoid innings defeat in the forth coming test series ....
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Surely they can't do as bad as SA are doing innindia currently?
WI would fare worse than SA in India. SA atleast managed to avoid innings defeat till now. I am not sure if WI can hold up like that ...
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This test series will be like watching Eng vs Bangladesh in Durham during may.
Not a test at all really.
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This test series will be like watching Eng vs Bangladesh in Durham during may.
Not a test at all really.
Boost a few stats for the Aussie batsmen though.. Nom nom nom
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Seems to be very little interest in the series, it's a no win series, win easy and we're bullies, get beat and it's the end of the world.
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The WI just lost by 10 wickets in a warm up game against the CA XI, the guys who can't get a game in the shield when all the test players are on international duty. They almost lost by an innings, it's really a good thing I got tickets on the first two days, might be almost over by then :/
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People wouldn't mind west indies losing if they picked their best team instead of this politics. The likes of kirk Edwards kicked out of the team for criticising the board, chanderpaul dropped, the coach suspended for making comments etc.
Reckon they'll be much more interest in the BBL than this series.
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Windies not fairing well.
Vogues cashed in where he left of in the windies. As he goes past 150here.
Shaun marsh gets his thrid carer test ton.
Warners 67 came at more than run a ball
Could be will into the 400s in a day here.
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Embarrassingly poor from the West Indies...And Shaun Marsh has probably guaranteed himself another 20/30 Tests by getting a 100...
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You know you're an awful team when Shaun Marsh scores a decent ton against you.
All the seamers going for 5+ RPO
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This is very sad, to see the once mighty WI team perform like this. Ignoring the Fabulous WI teams of the 1980+'s, pretty well any West Indies team since WW2 would give a far better account of itself. When playing resources are as thin as they currently seem to be in the Caribbean, it is criminal to be missing some of the best players. They should do whatever it takes to get their best players available for the big series - like this one.
A political shake-up to restore some pride and passion in the badge, along with a common sense of purpose (ie players, administrators and coaches all focussed on improved International results) would be good. However, there seems to have been a few shake-ups and rallying cries over the past decade or so, to no avail.
Does anyone have any new ideas?
David
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This is very sad, to see the once mighty WI team perform like this. Ignoring the Fabulous WI teams of the 1980+'s, pretty well any West Indies team since WW2 would give a far better account of itself. When playing resources are as thin as they currently seem to be in the Caribbean, it is criminal to be missing some of the best players. They should do whatever it takes to get their best players available for the big series - like this one.
A political shake-up to restore some pride and passion in the badge, along with a common sense of purpose (ie players, administrators and coaches all focussed on improved International results) would be good. However, there seems to have been a few shake-ups and rallying cries over the past decade or so, to no avail.
Does anyone have any new ideas?
David
Sack everyone who is a coach, manager, admin or anything to do with WI or the regional cricket and start again.
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On Inside Cricket show a couple of nights ago, Lara made a comment along the lines of the problems start from the top and Haddin suggested that the ICC should put in indepenant management to look after the game there... Lara thought it was a reasonable suggestion.
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You know you're an awful team when Shaun Marsh scores a decent ton against you.
All the seamers going for 5+ RPO
You mean like South Africa? ;)
But in all seriousness, he's looked like a completely different person since his recall.
The WI fielding has been despicable, Marsh whips it to the deep backwards square, the square leg fielder gives chase but Marlon Samuels at deep fine leg stands around with his hands in his pockets? So sad to see the WI falling so far.
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200 for Adam Voges and 150 for Shaun Marsh ... delight to watch them reaping runs and pathetic to watch WI bowlers running around clueless.
WICB - are u watching this travesty ? Clive Lloyd - Set your ego aside and bring back the experienced players like Dwayne Bravo, Gayle etc ...
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250 for Voges ... WI can officially bury their head in the beach and repent touring Australia ... Expecting 300+ from Voges ..
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The highest 4th wicket partnership in tests is now held by Marsh and Voges. Oh dear.
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This test series will be like watching Eng vs Bangladesh in Durham during may.
Not a test at all really.
Geez Buzz England aren't that bad i'm sure they would give Bangladesh a run for there money. ;)
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I suppose the teams goals are bigger than individual Etc, but how poor the windies are, I thought they might have let vogues go to 300.
It's still only day two, windies are 6 down and 400 behind. They had plenty of time!
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I suppose the teams goals are bigger than individual Etc, but how poor the windies are, I thought they might have let vogues go to 300.
It's still only day two, windies are 6 down and 400 behind. They had plenty of time!
Only Bravo managed to put up a decent attack against Aus. Now second innings and they are already 4 down for just 25 runs ! Bravo is also gone ... Definitely an innings defeat is on cards here
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58-5 just embarrassing! I'm sure West Indies tail averages more than the top order, the likes of roach and holder have got more runs than the top order.
Voges must be kicking himself if this test ends in 3/4 days. He could have got 400+. Reckon if it was Warner or smith himself he would not have declared.
I suppose we were all expecting this from West Indies, can't blame aus for smashing them. Just goes to show how good chanderpaul was! West Indies might have lost whilst he was playing but at least he made the score respectable.
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Not a fan of the high backlift technique that the new generation is using. it might be useful if the pitch is really consistent but to counteract any seam/swing a lower backlift is better as you can move your feet easily.
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Not a fan of the high backlift technique that the new generation is using. it might be useful if the pitch is really consistent but to counteract any seam/swing a lower backlift is better as you can move your feet easily.
Beg to differ. Ricky Ponting & Brian Lara used to have high backlift. If it worked for them then there is no reason why it shouldn't work for the new guys ... Any specific player you have in mind here ?
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58-5 just embarrassing! I'm sure West Indies tail averages more than the top order, the likes of roach and holder have got more runs than the top order.
Voges must be kicking himself if this test ends in 3/4 days. He could have got 400+. Reckon if it was Warner or smith himself he would not have declared.
I suppose we were all expecting this from West Indies, can't blame aus for smashing them. Just goes to show how good chanderpaul was! West Indies might have lost whilst he was playing but at least he made the score respectable.
Actually WI was 34-5. There was no inclination to play the ball on merit. Top order batsman didn't show any determination to stick around in the crease and wait for runs ... Flashing hard at balls pitched outside off-stump and trying to hook anything above waist high. Again ... batsman in a hurry to score runs ...
Credit to Australia. Good batting, although i would have waited until Voges got his 300 or got out before declaration. Great bowling - WI batsman weren't given any freebies. As is it WI batsman weren't willing to frustrate the bowlers. Regular wickets meant a full spirited bowling approach ... All in all, job well done by Aussies.
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Excellent to see Jimmy Pattinson bag a 5 wicket bag. Yes the Windies are hapless, but Pattinson has been a sick note for a while so it will help build his confidence.
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T-20 cricket has ruined WI cricket.
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Probably - based on the millionaire superstars as gayle and bravo, but it runs deeper with the island / board politics and the influence of American sports such as basketball being played by kids rather than cricket.
They are in danger of being only able to compete the long format with Zimbabwe, Bangladesh and in the future Ireland, Scotland etc million miles away from holding, Richards and co
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WI are just the First Nation to feel the effects of poor leadership and management, t20 and the decline in amateur cricket. There are so many issues that I dont think they will ever recover. They are IMO where th game is heading if we keep on the course the game is on, although obviously the big nations won't get quite as bad or as quickly as they have more people and money.
It's really sad to see as a test cricket fan pathetic skills and effort levels from professionals which totally devalue the game and distorts stats.
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Excellent to see Jimmy Pattinson bag a 5 wicket bag. Yes the Windies are hapless, but Pattinson has been a sick note for a while so it will help build his confidence.
I am sure WI is going to offer chances to all Aussie players to get back into form or try new things ... :D
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T-20 cricket has ruined WI cricket.
WICB is probably more responsible for driving their players to prefer T20 format over national duty. Why none of the experienced players were handed out any contracts ? Why were WI team allowed to withdraw from Indian tour mid-way ? Why can't WICB put the nation's interest ahead of WICB/Players tussle ? All problems seem to originate from WICB/Clive Lloyd. T20 is just accelerating their downfall ...
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WI are just the First Nation to feel the effects of poor leadership and management, t20 and the decline in amateur cricket. There are so many issues that I dont think they will ever recover. They are IMO where th game is heading if we keep on the course the game is on, although obviously the big nations won't get quite as bad or as quickly as they have more people and money.
It's really sad to see as a test cricket fan pathetic skills and effort levels from professionals which totally devalue the game and distorts stats.
I am not sure for how many years they are going to retain test match status ! In another 5 years WI is probably going to result in ODI/T20 teams only ...
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Excellent to see Jimmy Pattinson bag a 5 wicket bag. Yes the Windies are hapless, but Pattinson has been a sick note for a while so it will help build his confidence.
Anderson would have got all ten. Pattinson is an overrated clubman with a big mouth.
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Aus are something like 1.04 to win the next test, that's madness, and shows just how rubbish the WIndies have become.
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Anderson would have got all ten. Pattinson is an overrated clubman with a big mouth.
Is that designed just to get a bite or are you genuinely not very bright?
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Is that designed just to get a bite or are you genuinely not very bright?
It was clearly an attempt at getting a nibble, everyone know's Jimmy would only get 7, with Broad taking a hat-trick at the other end. Most likely one caught behind when the batsman didn't hit it, one bowled and an LBW that the batsman middled onto his pad! ;)
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It was clearly an attempt at getting a nibble, everyone know's Jimmy would only get 7, with Broad taking a hat-trick at the other end. Most likely one caught behind when the batsman didn't hit it, one bowled and an LBW that the batsman middled onto his pad! ;)
Personally I think jimmy would only get 6 broad 3 with the other being a Gary Pratt run out