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General Cricket => Cricket Training, Fitness and Injuries => Topic started by: Woodyspin on December 13, 2015, 08:46:14 PM
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Hi guys does everyones club have a structured net session? The past years we have done turn up bat when you like and 1st team 2nd team 3rd team in respective nets.
Plan for this year is to have Pace in 1 net, Spin and medium pace in a second net, those that just want to turn their arm over and have a slog in another and Colts in the last.
What's your thoughts/ideas?
Thanks in advance
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sounds very poorly organised. When has beer drinking and sitting in the late evening sun been factored in? Address this as a matter of urgency. We would not have anyone netting without the lure of cold ones.
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We have a structured session thought the summer.
It goes so,etching like this:
6.30 - warm up
6.45/50 - start fielding drill (targeting what we were crap at in the last game)
(6.52 - I turn up, and get changed, avoiding warm up & most of the fielding)
7.15 until it's too dark to see - net. Seamers in one net, slow bowlers and spinners in the other. Everyone who bats gets a go in both lanes.
When it's dark until the guy with keys is summoned home - sit in the bar
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Pretty sure he's on about winter nets.
Could be wrong. But sunshine and evening sun won't be a factor.
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Either really, unfortunately we only have 1 very worn out net at the club for outdoor which we are trying to replace and it puts people off coming. But at least i can see you do a pace and spinners net which us what i hope i can implement
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At my club it goes:
6pm (or whenever someone with a key for the gates bothers to turn up) few people turn up and drag the net out.
6:15 ish, first person batting whilst everyone else slowly turns up.
Everyone bowls in one net and everyone who wants to bats until it's either too dark or there's not enough people left to bowl (certain people seem to think that turning up and batting before going home is ok). The wicket used is invariably one of the two at either edge of the square and is always a complete minefield.
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We have been trying to get our groundsman to do one on the square for years he's too stubborn!
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This is how it works out ours.
3 people will turn up at 6, 2 get net out 1 takes stumps.
2 people will turn up at 6.20 because traffic/tea/any other excuse they can think of to not get net out.
We take in turns batting. Probably 15 mins each. Last two batsmen probably get spin or some very badly bowled sidearm swings.
Go to pack away. Same to who were late attempt to do one without taking net in. Get lots of abuse so reluctantly take net back.
Next week those 2 do not turn up, we have 3 people....... If we are lucky
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Haha sounds very very familiar?!
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This is how it works out ours.
3 people will turn up at 6, 2 get net out 1 takes stumps.
2 people will turn up at 6.20 because traffic/tea/any other excuse they can think of to not get net out.
We take in turns batting. Probably 15 mins each. Last two batsmen probably get spin or some very badly bowled sidearm swings.
Go to pack away. Same to who were late attempt to do one without taking net in. Get lots of abuse so reluctantly take net back.
Next week those 2 do not turn up, we have 3 people....... If we are lucky
Since when did we play for the same team!!??
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We have been trying to get our groundsman to do one on the square for years he's too stubborn!
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We have no choice, having rubbish facilities. It's not really prepared, the (now sacked) groundsman just used to mow it and stick the stumps in, hence why it was always a minefield and frequently downright dangerous. Balls flying up at your head off a good length were quite common last year.
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Not in east sussex are you? 😂
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Nope. East Lancashire.
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I used to organise our nets but gave up. They used to be the typical session I'm sure most of you have experienced it too. Two actual bowlers try to knock your head off because they never get a hard wicket during the season. They queue up with about 3 or 4 others who really can't bowl straight and as a batsman you just about get 4 decent balls in your 8 minutes.
Last year I didn't bother and just got one of the proper bowlers to have a 30 minute session each week for about 6 weeks before the season. Really helped me pick up length after a winter on the bowling machines and he started the season really well having had a good 40-50 overs under his belt.
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All sounds familiar, we net on the square as we have no room for nets outside the boundary, but the pitch isn't prepared for Wednesday practise so can be lethal. We are thinking of rolling out flicx matting and practising on that. Anyone had any experience netting on it?
For winter nets we spilt per team roughly the same as already mentioned, there only so much you can do indoors. If you want better batting practise you are better booking up your own net (in addition) on a bowling machine.
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I now own three BOla machines and tried to get the club at winter indoor nets, to use all 5 lanes, have 3 set up with bolas working on three different areas and then the last two as a spin and a seam bowling area (where the bowlers have a box to bowl into). Take away the stupid idiotic tendency at nets for every idiot to think they can bowl quick and the fact it's a hard surface meaning anyone with even an ounce of pace bowls the majority short because suddenly they can rush a batsmen. Now, I like pulling etc but it's simply not what you want to be training at winter nets.
Anyway, the club weren't interested so I didn't offer again and didn't bother attending club sessions. THey had their standard turn up, bat for 8-10 mins and bowlers knocking peoples heads off and batsmen carting and playing shots you simply don't see at weekends and if you do, generally it's them getting out hitting on the up etc just to look flash on a surface that comes on and allows biffing. THen they wonder why they don't do that well.. shock horror
It's a hard one though, I Think you literally get a 5050 split.. 50% want to turn up and do constructive net sessions and 50% basiclaly like the idea of them but actually either like slogging/chatting or knocking people's heads off and chatting. Best bet is to find like minded people from different clubs and just get together and run constructive sessions if you really want to improve.. or of course, find someone you know who has their own indoor lane and machines nad do regular training sessions and just watch how fast you improve :) :)
IT is annoying as someone that is prepared to spend time and money on training and see's the benefit, when people go on about how they are going ot train, going to do x or y and then when it comes to it.. they do the odd thing or nothing. DOing none, just turning up is fine but don't go on at the end of each season about nets etc..
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Nets actually starts to wind me up by mid season because of all the people just standing about doing nothing/not bothering to turn up. They wonder why they're struggling yet they almost never do any training. I also sometimes wonder if my batting suffers because of the rubbish wicket and silly high bouncing balls. I will admit though that I can't stand fielding practice so i'll often be trying and failing to skive off from that (I find it pointless outside of pre match warm up).
I hate bowling machines with a passion (find them too boring) so organising my own net sessions is fairly pointless unless I can find a good few people to join me.
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Id net all day every day if i could! Did it in summer holidays at school, would do it now. And i know a few who would do the same (unfortunately we are the only ones that ever turn up) if you lived closer i would say feel free to join us haha
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I will admit though that I can't stand fielding practice so i'll often be trying and failing to skive off from that (I find it pointless outside of pre match warm up).
Didn't you mention last season that you've never taken a catch in a game? Not practising could have something to do with that...
I'm personally always up for any kind of net whether serious or social, machine or not. Unfortunately my club almost entirely don't believe in practise, which caught up with them last season after years of being in easy divisions. 3 teams and you're lucky to get 5 people at Wednesday nets. Always amazed that some people don't think practise will help, netting twice a week throughout the off-season for 4 years when I was at uni made a big difference to my cricket (of course it did!).
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We are currently having this built.
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h76/smilley792/1DE99DAE-B410-4EEA-85E0-80BA59BD23B9_zpsu6foqxyi.jpg) (http://s61.photobucket.com/user/smilley792/media/1DE99DAE-B410-4EEA-85E0-80BA59BD23B9_zpsu6foqxyi.jpg.html)
2 lane enclosed net facility.
Once finished I plan to buy a bowling Machine with an auto feeder and net every allowable day this summer!!
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We are currently having this built.
([url]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h76/smilley792/1DE99DAE-B410-4EEA-85E0-80BA59BD23B9_zpsu6foqxyi.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s61.photobucket.com/user/smilley792/media/1DE99DAE-B410-4EEA-85E0-80BA59BD23B9_zpsu6foqxyi.jpg.html[/url])
2 lane enclosed net facility.
Once finished I plan to buy a bowling Machine with an auto feeder and net every allowable day this summer!!
if you are looking for a second hand one (and feeder) then let me know nearer summer.. I want a Trueman Bola so will sell my Pro one to help fund it :)
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Didn't you mention last season that you've never taken a catch in a game? Not practising could have something to do with that...
This. He was also complaining about not being able to get in any team! Perhaps the bowlers who've seen you skive off fielding practice get fed up after you've dropped them for the eighth time and you finding practice pointless makes them wonder why they bother?
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Having said about nets though, I've seen the GLos uni training specifically for indoor cricket!!! THen they wonder why they are tonk at proper cricket!! still, they do take indoor seriously and still lose which is funny
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We are currently having this built.
([url]http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h76/smilley792/1DE99DAE-B410-4EEA-85E0-80BA59BD23B9_zpsu6foqxyi.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s61.photobucket.com/user/smilley792/media/1DE99DAE-B410-4EEA-85E0-80BA59BD23B9_zpsu6foqxyi.jpg.html[/url])
2 lane enclosed net facility.
Once finished I plan to buy a bowling Machine with an auto feeder and net every allowable day this summer!!
Hello bank loan/ credit card [emoji2]
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Hello bank loan/ credit card [emoji2]
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not really, total cost for a pro machine, feeder and say 3 boxes of balls (so you have 28 to fill said feeder) comes out around 2700-2800. Bola's aren't as expensive as they are made out ot be when you consider how many hours you'll get back from it (think how much it costs to hire nets, machines, coaches etc) Also, you can claim back on it if you buy it through a VAT registered business etc, so costs even less.
THis way, you never have to hand over your cash to a coach again because you can train and train and train and there is enough online help now that you can figure out stuff alone and spend hte hours drilling. OF course, if you are just going ot heave and biff then bolas are nothing but dolly drops
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Yeah, only the £2,700 - not expensive at all that...
I'll take two (and a storm damaged M&H while I'm at it...) Bargain!
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Yeah, only the £2,700 - not expensive at all that...
I'll take two (and a storm damaged M&H while I'm at it...) Bargain!
With no warranty of course 😉
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not really, total cost for a pro machine, feeder and say 3 boxes of balls (so you have 28 to fill said feeder) comes out around 2700-2800. Bola's aren't as expensive as they are made out ot be when you consider how many hours you'll get back from it (think how much it costs to hire nets, machines, coaches etc) Also, you can claim back on it if you buy it through a VAT registered business etc, so costs even less.
THis way, you never have to hand over your cash to a coach again because you can train and train and train and there is enough online help now that you can figure out stuff alone and spend hte hours drilling. OF course, if you are just going ot heave and biff then bolas are nothing but dolly drops
If you see this and you haven't quit the Internet.
Is that the price new or what your wanting???
Personally I don't like the true man one, seems to take an age for the ball to come out. When I'm netting I want bang for my buck, not 1minute between balls.
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This. He was also complaining about not being able to get in any team! Perhaps the bowlers who've seen you skive off fielding practice get fed up after you've dropped them for the eighth time and you finding practice pointless makes them wonder why they bother?
I actually started taking catches. Also note that I said trying and failing to skive off, I never get away with it.
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I actually started taking catches. Also note that I said trying and failing to skive off, I never get away with it.
Oh, that's fine then... ???
I may joke about avoiding warm ups and things, but I wouldn't have the audacity to do that. Someone is giving up their time to coach, so I think "skiving off" is rather disrespectful.
As for fielding drills, I'm not as awful as I make out (I hope, anyway) but I know I need to work on it. I'm always up for a fielding session at training as I actually enjoy it, and if you only take a few catches half an hour before the game, how will you ever improve? As you will spend most of your time in the game fielding (unless you carry you bat, when it will be an even split) I cannot understand how fielding practice is "pointless outside pre match warm up" but maybe I'm just being thick.
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When it comes to fielding I take the view that you're either going to stop the ball or not, so I don't see the point in wasting an hour that I could spend working on batting or bowling, i'm not the only one in the club that shares that opinion either. Plus I get plenty of practice during games anyway. Given that we're prone to terrible batting collapses, i'd sooner focus on sorting that problem out, especially given that it's our biggest cause of losses in the second team.
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When it comes to fielding I take the view that you're either going to stop the ball or not, so I don't see the point in wasting an hour that I could spend working on batting or bowling, i'm not the only one in the club that shares that opinion either. Plus I get plenty of practice during games anyway. Given that we're prone to terrible batting collapses, i'd sooner focus on sorting that problem out, especially given that it's our biggest cause of losses in the second team.
If I said 'when it comes to batting I take the view that you're either going to hit the ball or not, so I don't see the point wasting time practising it' then you'd probably (quite rightly) tell me I was an idiot. Same as if I said I would only practice bowling in games. Stop the ball or not, catch the ball or drop it. If you stop everything, catch everything and throw everything accurately, you won't lose many cricket games. Not exciting, but a team of demon fielders makes a huge difference. Easy to forget cricket's a team sport for some people it seems.
On a serious note, in the summer you were posting every other week about how you weren't getting picked. Maybe this has a lot to do with it! Nothing irritates a team more than someone who can't be bothered with fielding - I've said to captains before I'd rather play with 10 than have someone who's a waste of space in the field, and on the other hand every club I've played at has seen players get chances in the first team mainly based on them being a gun fielder.
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Id have to disagree with you @cin88, fielding is not just stopping the ball or not. If you improve the time time between gathering the ball (either in the right or wrong hand) and throwing the ball the split seconds can cause alot of hesitation in a batsman decision. One example i can give is a friend of mine picked up in covers in his left hand turned and threw with his right at the non strikers end 3 times last year for a run out by a yard last season. 3 run outs which definitely helped us win the game!
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Id have to disagree with you @Cin88, fielding is not just stopping the ball or not. If you improve the time time between gathering the ball (either in the right or wrong hand) and throwing the ball the split seconds can cause alot of hesitation in a batsman decision. One example i can give is a friend of mine picked up in covers in his left hand turned and threw with his right at the non strikers end 3 times last year for a run out by a yard last season. 3 run outs which definitely helped us win the game!
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...but you either hit the stumps or you don't, no point in really practicing is there as practice doesn't really make you any better. You do my fielding drills for me so I can go practice my batting so it doesn't get better.
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When it comes to fielding I take the view that you're either going to stop the ball or not, so I don't see the point in wasting an hour that I could spend working on batting or bowling, i'm not the only one in the club that shares that opinion either. Plus I get plenty of practice during games anyway. Given that we're prone to terrible batting collapses, i'd sooner focus on sorting that problem out, especially given that it's our biggest cause of losses in the second team.
Your team sounds like a dream to play against, nothing better for a batsman than playing against a terrible fielding side!
A good fielding side makes a huge difference, its puts pressure on the opposing batsman which naturally leads to mistakes/wickets
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You'll love my team. Refuse to practice fielding in anyway then after each game we lose (usually from at least 6 or 7 dropped catches) they moan about the mistakes. As a keeper I get balls thrown into me occasionally but they are usually a few yards in front of me or way over my head. They don't understand that if they throw a ball into me by the stumps each ball they will get better for when the run out comes.
Personally I think fielding practice is very enjoyable.
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I wish my team had enough interest to have a Net Structure but the reality is that there aren't enough players that turn up on a regular basis to have one. I've resorted to sorting my own practice out With a net buddy from another team. I've found it has been really good for me as you get a different perspective on Your batting and he's a lot better than me so I can learn a lot from him.
RE Fielding
To me it's a really important aspect of the game, it makes a massive difference if you take all of your catches on a Saturday rather than having to create 15 / 16 chances as you're dropping dollys. Most of us play Limited overs cricket and if you can save 20 / 30 runs an innings it can definitley be the difference between winning and losing.
Good / bad fielding is contagious, if someone takes a great Catch or pulls off a good stop I find that the other feilders tend to up their game as well.
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Interesting debate this one and for me there isn't a one size fits all approach that truly works. At my club we have a number of approaches - at the top end of the sides nets are quite structured, focusing on processes initially and then more scenarios as we move through the winter phase with bowling machines playing a part but not too heavily as for me they don't help judge length, read the wrist etc. We also do lots of work with sidearms except muffins who sill does throwdowns! Other sides though just have an organised net, if they're looking to work at something the captains / peers will try to help. Sometimes I might wrongly judge these as poor nets - but they are fun and the lads keep coming back! For the vast majority there's no financial incentive to practice so I think it's vital practice is fun - and if that involves some slogging so be it - I'd rather have folks slogging in a net enjoying it than being subjected to regimented training and being lost to the game!
We all have different motives, some to be the best they can be, some to win cups, some to escape the mrs and kids in a Saturday, some to have a laugh with mates. For me cricket is a broad church and we should embrace and cater for all, whether that's in how we train / practice or the format of the matches that people can opt to play in
Oh and as an aside with our best kids and our top two sides we do practice range hitting outside and a couple of sessions of slap and tickle inside - we practice how to dominate the first ten and we practice how to dominate the last ten!
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I think a bit of imagination to make them fun and constructive is needed. I only have a problem with someone who won't practice and then moans that catches go down or mis-fields cost runs and so on.