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General Cricket => Players => Topic started by: Aussie In England on January 16, 2016, 02:06:39 PM
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So there's a general consensus that Anderson is somehow up there with South African kingpin Dale Steyn, but they way wide of the mark.
More interesting is the respective figures of Broad vs Anderson since 2010 because it's suggested that's when Anderson became Steyn's equal 😂😂😂 #HeadsGone
Any since 2010
Broad
Tests: 66
Wickets: 257
Average: 26.89
S/R: 54.2
5WH: 12
10WH: 2
Anderson
Tests: 68
Wickets: 281
Average: 26.12
S/R: 56.6
5WH: 11
10WH: 2
The stats favour Anderson but more often than not Anderson is only a first innings bowler. Whilst Broad is most likely to bowl a match winning spell from out of nowhere.
So who you picking?
Just in case you wanted to know Steyn's figures in the same period.
Steyn
Tests: 48
Wickets: 234
Average: 21.48
S/R: 43.0
5WH: 14
10WH: 2
Steyn seems pretty decent :o
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Home and away splits?
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Home and away splits?
Just for you ;)
Home record
Broad
Tests: 37
Wickets: 166
Average: 24.37
S/R: 48.8
5WH: 9
10WH: 2
Anderson
Tests: 36
Wickets: 162
Average: 24.56
S/R: 53.7
5WH: 8
10WH: 2
Away record
Broad
Tests: 29
Wickets: 91
Average: 31.48
S/R: 64.0
5WH: 3
10WH: 0
Anderson
Tests: 32
Wickets: 119
Average: 28.25
S/R: 60.4
5WH: 3
10WH: 0
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So Broad actually has better stats in England than Jimmy!
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Steyn will go down as one of the great fast bowlers tbf, Anderson and broad won't (decent but not a great)
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Thank you! I was thinking earlier that broad could be classed as the better of the two....
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Steyn will go down as one of the great fast bowlers tbf, Anderson and broad won't (decent but not a great)
Given the flatter decks, bigger bats and smaller boundaries broad and Anderson would go down as greats based on the last 5 years. Not looked up the Windies stats of the 80s but many of the "greats" were averaging similar numbers I think. Makes Steyns numbers even more impressive.
Many greats were known not just for there averages or strike rates but also their longevity. Two bowlers who have 750 test wickets between them, 200 odd tests and show little sign of slowing down, will given a few more years, be known as great for this reason as well.
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Not sure what your angle is @Aussie In England/Gerry SA but I suppose if you could only choose one of them it would be a horses for courses job. On a pitch that's likely to swing about, there's an argument to be had that you'd take Anderson. If it was a seamers track or wasn't going to swing then you would take Broad.
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Considering we are in batsman dominant era, any bowler who has played for decade(s) and have bowling average of 25 or less should be hailed as a great bowler.
Bowlers have little to no assistance in current era.
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Not sure what your angle is @Aussie In England/Gerry SA but I suppose if you could only choose one of them it would be a horses for courses job. On a pitch that's likely to swing about, there's an argument to be had that you'd take Anderson. If it was a seamers track or wasn't going to swing then you would take Broad.
but English conditions are always classed as swinging and Broad has better stats than jimmy in eng
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but English conditions are always classed as swinging and Broad has better stats than jimmy in eng
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Not always. Depends on the overhead conditions. English pitches almost always seam about a bit, which could be why Broad has a better average than Jimmy at home. Either way, both of them are fantastic bowlers and would walk into every test side in world cricket at the minute.
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Not always. Depends on the overhead conditions. English pitches almost always seam about a bit, which could be why Broad has a better average than Jimmy at home. Either way, both of them are fantastic bowlers and would walk into every test side in world cricket at the minute.
what even Australia?
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what even Australia?
Broad would, easily. In Australia Anderson probably wouldn't though, anywhere else no problem. Hazlewood has done very well, but Starc is still not up there as a test bowler, and the Aussies can't even settle on a third it seems at the moment.
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Broad would, easily. In Australia Anderson probably wouldn't though, anywhere else no problem. Hazlewood has done very well, but Starc is still not up there as a test bowler, and the Aussies can't even settle on a third it seems at the moment.
That's not strictly true.
Starc is the spearhead now that Harris and Johnson have retired.
Hazlewood is the line and length workhorse, his extra pace and height have edged out Siddle.
Pattinson and Cummins are the guys whom Lehmann etc want as the the third fast bowler, but both are injury ravaged.
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I don't think there's any doubt that Steyn is streets ahead of the rest, but I think you'd struggle to find any nation that, given the choice, would turn down the opportunity to have two bowlers with over 750 test wickets, contributing consistently over almost 10 years in tandem
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I see him getting a bit of stick but some of the deliveries that Anderson bowled in the second innings were absolutely unplayable, it's just that his went past the edge whereas Broads seemed to find them, such is the way with cricket sometimes. Reminded me of when Gillespie used to beat people for fun but it was McGrath who took more wickets.