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Title: Quickest way to play in your bat
Post by: uknsaunders on January 21, 2016, 01:52:15 PM
Apart from smacking it with a mallet for hours and some bowling machine nets does anybody have an useful tips for getting your bat from knocked in to match ready?
Title: Re: Quickest way to play in your bat
Post by: procricket on January 21, 2016, 02:03:36 PM
I'm extreme i use em out of packet but hat i also do is I have a spare mattress and my
Garage I welly balls at my
Mattress bit extreme but i find it works
Title: Re: Quickest way to play in your bat
Post by: vishwas on January 21, 2016, 02:07:09 PM
I generally take a medium used ball and keep on tapping the ball walking through the house.. :-) annoying for others but has worked for me to get the bat match ready fast.
Title: Re: Quickest way to play in your bat
Post by: InternalTraining on January 21, 2016, 02:12:45 PM
Anyone ever tried a hammer? There is a pic of Sehwag holding a hammer against his bat. He is renowned for high performance bats.
Title: Re: Quickest way to play in your bat
Post by: uknsaunders on January 21, 2016, 02:25:08 PM
I find it can take half to one season to really see the performance. My beloved Icon was a slow burner, was ok to start with but after a season it went like a train. I'd rather not take the dicing with death approach of using them at nets and letting a SD special wreck them.
Title: Re: Quickest way to play in your bat
Post by: procricket on January 21, 2016, 02:39:49 PM
I use the tap edge and toe 20 minutes

Bowling machine but only for 3-5 sessions (I have my suspicions about machines after a certain usage as lots
Of delaminated bats come back with marks on from them)

And like the other bloke says knock old balls on.

The ready press has aliviated many things and make it more stable in the face to play quicker which has helped in my opinion
Title: Re: Quickest way to play in your bat
Post by: procricket on January 21, 2016, 02:41:01 PM
Hammer yes done it and also knobs on banisters on stairs they delaminate the bat because it a instant hit (pressure) and no build up
Title: Re: Quickest way to play in your bat
Post by: ppccopener on January 21, 2016, 02:52:01 PM
No sensible suggestions from me i'm afraid, these days I don't hit the middle enough so just knock in the edges and toe, and a bit near the splice as I seem to get a few there  :)

just as a slight aside..A very good friend of mine in my team has told me many times to knock bats in for 2 years before using them.At first I thought he was joking but no...totally serious

apart from him, who on earth would do that?
 :o
Title: Re: Quickest way to play in your bat
Post by: InternalTraining on January 21, 2016, 03:04:48 PM

Bowling machine but only for 3-5 sessions (I have my suspicions about machines after a certain usage as lots
Of delaminated bats come back with marks on from them

You know, I don't put new bats to Bola either -  think the balls are too hard for a new bat. There was disagreement in the forum on this point when I said that many moons ago.  I still feel that bola are bad for new bats.

 Your point about gradual pressure makes sense.
Title: Re: Quickest way to play in your bat
Post by: uknsaunders on January 21, 2016, 03:25:15 PM
You know, I don't put new bats to Bola either -  think the balls are too hard for a new bat. There was disagreement in the forum on this point when I said that many moons ago.  I still feel that bola are bad for new bats.

 Your point about gradual pressure makes sense.

I will always knock mine in first before using a bola. I see it as stepping stones. After a bola onto a soft ball in nets and then matches. Getting bowlers to buy into using soft isn't easy though. The other option is a spin net or find a local team with a set of friendly trundlers who will let you net.
Title: Re: Quickest way to play in your bat
Post by: Cin88 on January 21, 2016, 05:46:08 PM
After oiling and other such prep work, give it a whack with a mallet for an hour or so, make sure the edges are ready then straight into use. The only issue I tend to face is getting the faster bowlers to use old balls for a session or two.
Title: Re: Quickest way to play in your bat
Post by: Number4 on January 21, 2016, 07:24:22 PM
Apart from the usual mallet I always do the old roll the edges on the bath
Title: Re: Quickest way to play in your bat
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on January 21, 2016, 07:39:17 PM
Anyone ever tried a hammer? There is a pic of Sehwag holding a hammer against his bat. He is renowned for high performance bats.

I think in Sehwags case the bloke on the end of the bat is equally as important as the performance of the bat.

There is a phenomenon where a lesser batsman lends a plank of a bat to a more able player and the performance miraculously improves  ;)
Title: Re: Quickest way to play in your bat
Post by: jd163 on January 21, 2016, 07:39:51 PM
After oiling and other such prep work, give it a whack with a mallet for an hour or so, make sure the edges are ready then straight into use. The only issue I tend to face is getting the faster bowlers to use old balls for a session or two.

Same here mate  :)
Title: Re: Quickest way to play in your bat
Post by: dougydee on January 21, 2016, 09:49:18 PM
Apart from smacking it with a mallet for hours and some bowling machine nets does anybody have an useful tips for getting your bat from knocked in to match ready?
I've always felt there is a difference between a bat being knocked in and ready to use and a bat actually being match ready and "played in". My only tips are having a bat on the go (doesn't seem to be a problem on this forum) to use during nets. Having a new bat or 2 during the off season (again should be no issue to this forum) to use during preseason helps too. Throw downs have never been an issue at my club so getting a couple of 20 minute throw down sessions a week certainly helps with the process of getting a new bat match ready.
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Post by: dannyhall04 on January 21, 2016, 11:01:26 PM
Seem to have misplaced my mallet so might have to invest in another. Is the consensus a ball-on-handle is better, or the 'wooden' style one? Or just an old ball? So many conflicting opinions in this game!  :-[
Title: Re: Quickest way to play in your bat
Post by: uknsaunders on January 21, 2016, 11:03:09 PM
As heavy as you can get wooden mallet. Lignum vitae if you have £70 spare. Failing that a heavy oak or the gn deluxe.

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Title: Re: Quickest way to play in your bat
Post by: InternalTraining on January 22, 2016, 12:11:03 AM
I think in Sehwags case the bloke on the end of the bat is equally as important as the performance of the bat.

In an interview/article, Sehwag's ex-team mate Raina was comparing his bats with some of the team mates and Sehwag was mentioned as having great bats.
Title: Re: Quickest way to play in your bat
Post by: InternalTraining on January 22, 2016, 12:12:57 AM
Seem to have misplaced my mallet so might have to invest in another. Is the consensus a ball-on-handle is better, or the 'wooden' style one? Or just an old ball? So many conflicting opinions in this game!  :-[

Ball on handle is good for nothing. Use a proper wooden mallet, GN short handle mallet is a good one. I use it by placing a stack of old pillows and resting the bat on the stack, much easier on your arms.
Title: Re: Quickest way to play in your bat
Post by: sanredrose on January 22, 2016, 12:41:41 AM
GN deluxe mallet does the trick .. If you prefer heavier ones try the LV mallet from elviar, sold on eBay ...


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Title: Re: Quickest way to play in your bat
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on January 22, 2016, 12:42:13 AM
In an interview/article, Sehwag's ex-team mate Raina was comparing his bats with some of the team mates and Sehwag was mentioned as having great bats.
This may be the case, but I can't imagine there are many international players who get supplied with planks.
And even if they do, they'll be given so many they could simply get rid of that one and forget about it.

Oh, how great it must be, to be an international players with a non-stop flow of bats...
Title: Re: Quickest way to play in your bat
Post by: dannyhall04 on January 22, 2016, 11:29:26 AM
£70?! Forgive my naivety but what's the benefit over a £7 GN one?
Title: Re: Quickest way to play in your bat
Post by: ridhuan on January 22, 2016, 11:35:18 AM
my friend has it, and he say the LV mallet does the work quicker than normal mallet, heavier head i guess, can browse the fb page here https://www.facebook.com/elviarshedmallets/?fref=ts (https://www.facebook.com/elviarshedmallets/?fref=ts)
Title: Re: Quickest way to play in your bat
Post by: bostoncricketer on January 22, 2016, 02:34:36 PM
This may be the case, but I can't imagine there are many international players who get supplied with planks.
And even if they do, they'll be given so many they could simply get rid of that one and forget about it.

Oh, how great it must be, to be an international players with a non-stop flow of bats...

I would hate looking at the same sticker on each of my bats  :D
Title: Re: Quickest way to play in your bat
Post by: uknsaunders on January 22, 2016, 02:41:17 PM
my friend has it, and he say the LV mallet does the work quicker than normal mallet, heavier head i guess, can browse the fb page here https://www.facebook.com/elviarshedmallets/?fref=ts (https://www.facebook.com/elviarshedmallets/?fref=ts)

The LV Mallet is approx 800g-1kg in weight but a more affordable option is the Oak Mallet which said 700g on the facebook page and costs £30. A GN/GM mallet is somewhere around 450g and sime are aren't lighter. @ItsJustCricket did a good video of the pro's and con's of the cheaper mallets. However, more weight = less knocking in but the cost goes up once you look outside the mainstream mallets. Interesting on that facebook page that GN had purchased an LV mallet!
Title: Re: Quickest way to play in your bat
Post by: Cover_Drive on January 23, 2016, 01:44:43 AM
I am always knocking the toe, I don't knock middle much rather just use it in nets against old balls and then take it to machines and start using it.

I think it is sensible to decide on match bat now so by the time season starts, it's opened. I feel a lot of people go into season with bats which aren't at the peak.

I concur with @uknsaunders that it takes almost a season to open up a bat.
Title: Re: Quickest way to play in your bat
Post by: Kevtheplumber on January 23, 2016, 08:35:44 AM
That must also depend on time at the crease too. Is there an estimated amount of shots in general it would take to open up a bat?
Title: Re: Quickest way to play in your bat
Post by: sarg on January 23, 2016, 02:25:02 PM

I am always knocking the toe, I don't knock middle much rather just use it in nets against old balls and then take it to machines and start using it.

I think it is sensible to decide on match bat now so by the time season starts, it's opened. I feel a lot of people go into season with bats which aren't at the peak.

I concur with @uknsaunders that it takes almost a season to open up a bat.

Yep i agree. Knocking is one thing and playing it in is the next. Rushing is overrated. Nothing simulates a hard ball hitting a swinging bat. Lv mallet or not. See seam marks, withdraw it and knock that atra a bit more. It all pays off in the long run.
Title: Re: Quickest way to play in your bat
Post by: Cin88 on January 23, 2016, 10:42:54 PM
I am always knocking the toe, I don't knock middle much rather just use it in nets against old balls and then take it to machines and start using it.

I think it is sensible to decide on match bat now so by the time season starts, it's opened. I feel a lot of people go into season with bats which aren't at the peak.

I concur with @uknsaunders that it takes almost a season to open up a bat.

I'm starting the season with two bats that are nowhere near ready, even after winter nets I doubt my GM will be even a quarter of the way there. The time taken to get them to peak performance is part of the fun in my opinion, if a little frustrating when one of your bats is really hard.
Title: Re: Quickest way to play in your bat
Post by: ridhuan on January 23, 2016, 10:46:30 PM
higher grade like pro or G1++ will open first compare to lower grade, is it true guys the grade of the willow play some part in this process