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Equipment => Other Gear => Topic started by: Jogetnz on January 31, 2016, 08:53:25 AM
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Thought I would show you my GN mallet with additional weight added. May be an option for those not wanting to spend the big bucks getting a heavier mallet. Easily customised to the weight you need.
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Keep that away from my bats. One miss swing and your in trouble lol
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Keep that away from my bats. One miss swing and your in trouble lol
Exactly what I thought. One mis hit on the edge and you've got a shitload of scrap metal in the face of you brand new bat!!
A proper heavier mallet is cheaper than a new bat!!
#bodgejob
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Not exactly. My LV cost a bit....but loving it.
I reckon strips of the lead flashing used for roofing and gaffer tape is less lethal than that WMD. Top marks for originality... Far less for practicality.
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Never ever am I using that on my bats lol. Kudos on figuring out a way to add weight but knowing how clumsy I am my bat would like a pot hole filled country road
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Some serious plums required to be weilding that weapon!
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Haven't had an issue using it yet, if I can't hit the bat with it from 12 inches away what chance have I hitting a swinging ball.
I'll take the feedback on board as it does look a bit nasty, cut off the rest of the bolt and it's a keeper.
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Haven't had an issue using it yet, if I can't hit the bat with it from 12 inches away what chance have I hitting a swinging ball.
I'll take the feedback on board as it does look a bit nasty, cut off the rest of the bolt and it's a keeper.
That's a good idea. Maybe also straighten the weights to make it look less jagged.
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Expanding on your idea. How about using round washers and inset them on both sides about a cm with one of those hole cutter drill bits? Probably less weight but also no chance of edge death. You only need to get to 700 grams on that size mallet and the nut and bolt is part way there.
It only takes the mallet to skip off the edge and your in trouble. Leave it with you.
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no, just no
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can I please borrow this im going down to salix/newbery/m and h/GN to potentially buy a bat and I want to do my own ping test
do you think I would get thru the front door?
great thread
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can I please borrow this im going down to salix/newbery/m and h/GN to potentially buy a bat and I want to do my own ping test
do you think I would get thru the front door?
great thread
Sure thing just come pick it up :)
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Forget the Mallet.
How good is the form of those socks!
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is this a joke?
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The socks are something else, Made by Stance, they are the best socks I've worn.
Simmy, the mallet is no joke. Today I cut the end off the bolt with some bolt cutters and the balance is a little better, also weighed it, 1.1kg and still struggles to make a mark on my new B3.
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Had some steel left over, and a spare mallet. Thought I'd give it a go. Not done yet, but getting there.
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When the flue has settled, in like a month, I can refit the head again.
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That's a much tidier solution than mine, well done.
My only suggestion would be to ensure that their is no slop between the reattached head and the steel and it might be a good idea to only use the other side.
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Well, there's gonna be 2-3 cm of wood on each side. Gonna test it thoroughly before I try it on my bats! I can ensure you that!
But thanks for the inspiration!
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Probably should have used epoxy resin as the glue. You may find that the PVA never really solidifies. I was going to do something similar to mine.
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The socks are something else, Made by Stance, they are the best socks I've worn.
Simmy, the mallet is no joke. Today I cut the end off the bolt with some bolt cutters and the balance is a little better, also weighed it, 1.1kg and still struggles to make a mark on my new B3.
Did you buy it pre knocked in?
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Probably should have used epoxy resin as the glue. You may find that the PVA never really solidifies. I was going to do something similar to mine.
Yeah might do.. Did have that concern, but thought I would try it out
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Did you buy it pre knocked in?
No, but it feels like it is, others have said similar about their bats, I just think they have the pressing of bats bang on.
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Did my best.. But only half the weight of the lignum vitae..
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There's a possibility the end of the mallet will come off or the steel will come through the wood on impact and you have holes in your bat face
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Yes, there is a possibility of everything buddy. Endgame is, I had fun, no money spent, project succes for now. As I wrote earlier, I will ofc test the buttocks of it before I use it.
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Right, update. The mallet is 600 grams with additional grip. It comes on to the bat with a very deep thump, not the wooden Crack sound ones used to. Regarding durability, I've been belting a pallet, and not a crack/ or other signs of failure from the mallet.
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Inspired by the DIY heavy mallets in this thread and thoughts of other people using LV mallets, I really wanted to have one. I am not as dexterous with tools and wasn't ready to put in $150 odd on a ready made LV mallet from the UK. Was browsing through US ebay one day and found a listing for an old woodworkers LV mallet that seemed to be in a decent shape but couldn't be used on bats right away. Managed to fetch it for a reasonable price...sawed the end of a regular mallet and glued on the heavy one..It weighs about 2'3 and seems safe for use on bats..thoughts?
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It's all very entertaining seeing these DIY mallets, some of which I'd feel happier using than others, but it's got me thinking. I now have a question that I'm likely to butcher the wording of!
Isn't LV the heaviest/most dense kind of wood (this isn't the question!)
Is an LV mallet effective because of the weight alone, or because it's got a more dense hitting area than a "normal" mallet?
If anyone can think of a scientific way of testing this I'd be curious to know:
Would you be better off with an 800g LV mallet, a normal mallet with weight added so it is 800g, or would they be equally effective as an 800g mallet is an 800g mallet, regardless how you get it to that weight?
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LV is all about getting weight into a concentrated area but not to the extent one whack of a bat would cause certain damage ....it's the perfect compromise
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It's all very entertaining seeing these DIY mallets, some of which I'd feel happier using than others, but it's got me thinking. I now have a question that I'm likely to butcher the wording of!
Isn't LV the heaviest/most dense kind of wood (this isn't the question!)
Is an LV mallet effective because of the weight alone, or because it's got a more dense hitting area than a "normal" mallet?
If anyone can think of a scientific way of testing this I'd be curious to know:
Would you be better off with an 800g LV mallet, a normal mallet with weight added so it is 800g, or would they be equally effective as an 800g mallet is an 800g mallet, regardless how you get it to that weight?
All mallets are hard (dense) enough for a cricket bat. Heavier need not necessarily mean harder or lighter need not necessarily mean softer. Same compression can be achieved by a lighter mallet as a heavier one if you can hit harder. Force = mass * velocity, which means same amount of force and the resultant compression can be achieved by a lighter mallet if you hit harder (higher velocity). Only advantage of heavier mallet is you dont have to hit harder saving you energy. hope this helps.
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All mallets are hard (dense) enough for a cricket bat. Heavier need not necessarily mean harder or lighter need not necessarily mean softer. Same compression can be achieved by a lighter mallet as a heavier one if you can hit harder. Force = mass * velocity, which means same amount of force and the resultant compression can be achieved by a lighter mallet if you hit harder (higher velocity). Only advantage of heavier mallet is you dont have to hit harder saving you energy. hope this helps.
I don't think it's quite as simple as F=M*V. You'll be losing a bit of force absorbed by the softer would in a normal mallet as it will deformed compared to the Lignum Vitae model. I'd imagine the chap who has glued a regular mallet head onto a heavier LV mallet loses quite a lot of energy.
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Just to clear a couple of things up:
- mass x velocity does not equal force
- density and hardness have nothing to do with each other
LV will be an improvement over standard mallets because it's denser (so heavier mallet meaning you can apply more force) and because it's both harder and denser (less loss of energy upon impact). How significant the effect of either is and how good that is for your cricket bat is hard to say, the weight will be much more of a factor than the hardness though.
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I don't expect my LV laminate to "perform" the same as a G1 LV mallet ;) But if a little energy loss is the only negative then I think it wouldn't be that bad. Majority of the people as still using regular mallets to knock in their bats. Saved well over $100 that I can put towards a bat which is what we all are here for in the end :)
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I don't expect my LV laminate to "perform" the same as a G1 LV mallet ;) But if a little energy loss is the only negative then I think it wouldn't be that bad. Majority of the people as still using regular mallets to knock in their bats. Saved well over $100 that I can put towards a bat which is what we all are here for in the end :)
Can't you just fine someone to turn one of the ends, sure they wouldn't charge much.
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Can't you just fine someone to turn one of the ends, sure they wouldn't charge much.
LV mallets are expensive not just because the wood is rare, but also because it is extremely hard to turn; wearing out tools extremely quickly.
Theres a reason it was used in bearings on ships, even when modern technology offered a theoretically better alternative. The first nuclear submarine used LV bearings.
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LV mallets are not expensive just because the wood is rare, but also because it is extremely hard to turn; wearing out tools extremely quickly.
Theres a reason it was used in bearings on ships, even when modern technology offered a theoretically better alternative. The first nuclear submarine used LV bearings.
I understood it's waxy nature made it not too bad to turn but a nightmare to sand.
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I understood it's waxy nature made it not too bad to turn but a nightmare to sand.
I'm just going on what the chap who made mine said. A nightmare to turn apparently.
Flipside is they will last a lifetime, whereas the frankenmallet will more than likely split at some point.
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I'm just going on what the chap who made mine said. A nightmare to turn apparently.
Flipside is they will last a lifetime, whereas the frankenmallet will more than likely split at some point.
Absolutely right - I knew a guy who used to make stuff out of LV and he got through blades and the like in no time - it all adds to the cost.
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I understood it's waxy nature made it not too bad to turn but a nightmare to sand.
No. Lignum vitae is murder to turn as it blunts the tools very quickly, and is very hard so only a minimal amount can be removed with each pass. is time consuming to sand, though on turned products this is never a problem as the lathe spins the material and you just hold the paper.
It is expensive though only small amounts are used in mallets.
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Just to clear a couple of things up:
- mass x velocity does not equal force
- density and hardness have nothing to do with each other
LV will be an improvement over standard mallets because it's denser (so heavier mallet meaning you can apply more force) and because it's both harder and denser (less loss of energy upon impact). How significant the effect of either is and how good that is for your cricket bat is hard to say, the weight will be much more of a factor than the hardness though.
OK scientist!!! f=m*a. Was almost midnight when i wrote that. The point was that a regular mallet is hard enough to generate almost similar compression if you hit harder. Only difference between "G1" LV and custom LV of bostoncricketer will be the energy lost due to deformation which i think will be comparable in both case. What Bostoncricketer has done will definitely save time and energy compared to a regular mallet and might have same effect as LV.