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Title: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: smilley792 on February 12, 2016, 05:37:05 PM
Khawaja? Warner? Sangas? Lynn's?


Is it a gray nics?


Are sg or whoever makes kooks now copying gray nics??



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Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: Woodyspin on February 12, 2016, 05:39:41 PM
Very possible... Sticker looks a little low to me! Should be right on the top of the shoulder
Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: wayward_hayward on February 12, 2016, 05:40:24 PM
I thought it looked on the large side. These Warner bats are getting everywhere.
Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: Cublingtoncc on February 12, 2016, 05:42:18 PM
just seen this aswell and was going to put something up

absolute tank of a bat

HAs to be a GN stickered up there all doing it now
Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: arsenal123 on February 12, 2016, 05:47:02 PM
One of the commentators earlier said he has a Warner bat in his bag and was talking to him about it off the camera pre-match.
Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: mcgill123 on February 12, 2016, 05:47:54 PM
AB gone, into the very long tail.
Title: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: Thesmiff on February 12, 2016, 07:54:55 PM
One of the commentators earlier said he has a Warner bat in his bag and was talking to him about it off the camera pre-match.
quite a funny little segment that when Haysman mentioned he was possibly using a Warner. Kepler and Nasser then just goaded him into digging a little hole before realising he was upsetting sponsors.
I really dislike Haysman and hearing him squirm made me chuckle
Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: edge on February 12, 2016, 08:50:16 PM
AB gone, into the very long tail.
Oops!
Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: mcgill123 on February 12, 2016, 08:53:09 PM
Oops!
Should've been a formality Ed, some p@#% poor fielding, at least six very good chances went astray.
Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: brokenbat on February 12, 2016, 09:23:02 PM
Khawaja? Warner? Sangas? Lynn's?


Is it a gray nics?


Are at or whoever makes kooks now copying gray nics??



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nice spot. maybe its that stolen bat from twitter.
Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: InternalTraining on February 12, 2016, 09:26:26 PM
Warner is corrupting all the international batsmen! No more toothpick bats.  :D
Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: brokenbat on February 12, 2016, 09:31:00 PM
Its going to force JS Wright to cut out larger clefts...i.e. bats will get even more expensive (less clefts around).
Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: InternalTraining on February 12, 2016, 09:35:54 PM
Its going to force JS Wright to cut out larger clefts...i.e. bats will get even more expensive (less clefts around).


They are difficult to do business with. They don't sell  ordinary consumers clefts directly. If you want to make a bat for yourself, you have to find your cleft elsewhere. They got a monopoly on their trade and are minting  money.

I wonder how much one cleft really costs.
Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on February 12, 2016, 09:48:22 PM
It's going to get to the stage before long that everyone is using the "David Warner shape" except David Warner...
Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: Woodyspin on February 12, 2016, 09:59:42 PM
It's going to get to the stage before long that everyone is using the "David Warner shape" except David Warner...
Does that really mean the the David Warner shape is not really the david warner shape?
Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on February 12, 2016, 10:01:55 PM
Does that really mean the the David Warner shape is not really the david warner shape?
Maybe it should be renamed "the profile formerly know as the David Warner shape"
Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: smilley792 on February 12, 2016, 10:04:21 PM
I see @hell4leather cricket lurking. So will pose the question.


When is a uk bat manufacturer going to produce a true Warner replica?? Why is it only gray nicolls Australia that seem to be able to make them?

@Red Ink Cricket
@The Doctor
@Ryan

And everyone else that makes bats from start to finish can answer that to.
Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: Red Ink Cricket on February 12, 2016, 10:20:46 PM
I've made something similar for Nick but to be fair I just don't have access to willow light enough to make that regularly. I also don't dry them out beyond the norm which I'm sure someone mentioned these are. Quite happy to dry one out further and try it but won't come with any guarantee to last.

Pros don't care if the bats break, normal customers do
Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: InternalTraining on February 12, 2016, 10:25:40 PM
I see @hell4leather cricket lurking. So will pose the question.


When is a uk bat manufacturer going to produce a true Warner replica?? Why is it only gray nicolls Australia that seem to be able to make them?

@Red Ink Cricket
@The Doctor
@Ryan

And everyone else that makes bats from start to finish can answer that to.

David Warner bat has a yoog bow and B3 can't replicate that. GN England should be able to replicate it.
Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: InternalTraining on February 12, 2016, 10:26:30 PM
I've made something similar for Nick but to be fair I just don't have access to willow light enough to make that regularly. I also don't dry them out beyond the norm which I'm sure someone mentioned these are. Quite happy to dry one out further and try it but won't come with any guarantee to last.

Pros don't care if the bats break, normal customers do

Can you put a yoog bow on it like the Warner bat?
Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: smilley792 on February 12, 2016, 10:28:27 PM
I've made something similar for Nick but to be fair I just don't have access to willow light enough to make that regularly. I also don't dry them out beyond the norm which I'm sure someone mentioned these are. Quite happy to dry one out further and try it but won't come with any guarantee to last.

Pros don't care if the bats break, normal customers do

I have a Warner rep Imported from aus john. It's not dry. There's a guy in USA that says his isn't dry at either.
The ones that do say they are dry are just guessing and talking about Warners actual bats, I'm talking about replicas.
Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: Red Ink Cricket on February 12, 2016, 10:29:41 PM
Can you put a yoog bow on it like the Warner bat?

I can put a decent bow in it yes. Not sure what warners is like to be honest
Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: smilley792 on February 12, 2016, 10:31:07 PM
David Warner bat has a yoog bow and B3 can't replicate that. GN England should be able to replicate it.

What's yoog mean?

Gray nicolls uk have already said they won't/can't make them.
Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: InternalTraining on February 12, 2016, 10:31:47 PM
I can put a decent bow in it yes. Not sure what warners is like to be honest

If you can tell me how to measure a bow, I can measure mine and share the number with you.
Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: InternalTraining on February 12, 2016, 10:32:11 PM
What's yoog mean?

Gray nicolls uk have already said they won't/can't make them.

Huge.  :D

Surprised to hear about GN -UK
Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: hell4leather cricket on February 12, 2016, 10:32:36 PM
It's hard to judge exact specs from pictures , having cut one of warners bats at the kent warm up game it was dry as f';k prob and about 8% moisture  ,also shorter handle and at a guess about 2.11 . Plus gn aus prob get 150000 + clefts a year so with that volume you will get a share of super light clefts , Or gn aus have super light handle technology

 I can do a 50mm edge bat at 2.13/14 but it will be concaved a lot  and a thin handle .  Just watching khawaja bat , the bat he's using looks like a standard gn , the big bash would have been  prob 2-3 ounces heavier
Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: smilley792 on February 12, 2016, 10:32:54 PM
I can put a decent bow in it yes. Not sure what warners is like to be honest


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Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: Slab on February 12, 2016, 10:34:13 PM
Just seen that AB has signed a new contact with MRF, no more Kookaburra!
Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: Focus Cricket on February 12, 2016, 10:35:17 PM
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We had a little fun trying to attempt the Original Warner profile in a Lam.... 2.13 with 46mm edges in a fullish profile. Pickup is brilliant for a 2.13 due to the placement of the middle which is high up the blade and very long. The actual Warner profile Ive seen had a 55mm edge and almost a 20mm shoulder edge.
Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: Number4 on February 12, 2016, 10:40:37 PM
Maybe it should be renamed "the profile formerly know as the David Warner shape"

Or should we call it the "purple rain" shape
Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: Red Ink Cricket on February 12, 2016, 10:43:15 PM
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That is a big bow. Guessing they must cut they in a little as well and pressing the bow as that looks a lot for just pressing. The clefts must start off huge goo to get 55mm edges and a bow like that
Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: Focus Cricket on February 12, 2016, 10:44:24 PM
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An Original Warner bat - 55mm edges
Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: hell4leather cricket on February 12, 2016, 10:45:07 PM
De villiers would prob be from Sg they are one of the biggest cleft buyers in the world , so would have the pick
Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: brokenbat on February 12, 2016, 10:49:05 PM
De villiers would prob be from Sg they are one of the biggest cleft buyers in the world , so would have the pick

They also make kook so make sense
Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: Blank Bats on February 12, 2016, 11:42:14 PM
GN have their own willow supply, and can cut to a larger size, as far as I'm aware JSW don't cut to that size, (but others can do)well that's what I was told by Jeremy.

I'm not sure of the relationship between GN Aus and GN UK, whether they ship willow to them.

You also get warm weather in Aus, sometimes even warmer that India/Pak which helps in drying out the timber further.

Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: InternalTraining on February 13, 2016, 12:03:06 AM
^ What about Kippax? They make big bats.
Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: dcullen8 on February 13, 2016, 12:23:36 AM
I think they have their own willow supply?

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Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: Number4 on February 13, 2016, 12:34:07 AM
^ What about Kippax? They make big bats.


Kippax have their own willow and can cut to any size as well I believe
Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: Blank Bats on February 17, 2016, 09:54:04 AM
I think Kippax do not get the credit they deserve, it is them who have made available on larger scale (either through their own bats or supply of clefts within the industry) massive bats
Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: skip1973 on February 17, 2016, 11:49:59 AM
Had a look at next seasons GN bats a couple of weeks ago, they have gone a few massive bats in the range.
Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: smilley792 on February 17, 2016, 12:09:28 PM
Had a look at next seasons GN bats a couple of weeks ago, they have gone a few massive bats in the range.

May have to send kingsgrove some more money next season then! As I doubt we'd get them here.
Title: Re: So who's bat has de villiers nicked?
Post by: uknsaunders on February 17, 2016, 07:14:01 PM
I think you will,  if you accept a compromise. Warner probably  has a shorter blade and an ultra light  cleft.  Thin handle and a bit dry.  Wait long enough  and something will come along.  I think John dropped  me an email about my red ink cleft roughly 3 months after I enquired. Without the bow I imagine  b3 could do one in a light cleft at any point.

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