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General Cricket => Cricket Training, Fitness and Injuries => Topic started by: dannyhall04 on March 02, 2016, 12:52:54 AM
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As per title. Very painful and uncomfortable. Google says it'll go away on its own in six weeks (so about the time of our first game) but I'd quite like to actually be able to net without pain...!
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Few family members and friends suffered from it.. You have to see a doctor to get pain and anti inflammatory medicines plus stretching exercises. Here are few good youtube for stretching.
https://youtu.be/9f1Y4OV3QlA
Hope you recover soon.
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Find a chiropractor
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Yeah had it once not nice, doing a silly throwing drill brought it on, a unpleasant type of pain and lost power in one off my legs.
Put up with it for a couple months until found out about Sciatic Nerve Flossing. Pain went and stay away immediately.
this video eplains well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFKwNffX8zw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFKwNffX8zw)
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I'd echo the stretching suggestions and try to work on your core muscle group as well as legs.
I get it at times, mainly when I haven't stretched or warmed up.
I need to lose some weight too, which doesn't help.
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I didnt have it diagnosed but I struggled with sciatica or something similar in my lower back/hip which was affecting my leg movement.
It worked its way out eventually(I couldn't tell you how long I had it for, but it was for about 1 season), however for me I did a warm up of stretching my lower back before games. One exercise that really helped was lying on my back and then pulling a leg towards myself and then rotating the leg at the joint in full, big circles. Not sure on the name of the exercise but I felt that this helped me the best.
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Sorry to hear you're suffering -
1. If not formally diagnosed (can be diagnosed in history and examination) then you should get it looked at by a doctor
2. Medicine has usually an analgesic role only - it doesn't nothing towards resolving your sciatica but only easing its symptoms. If you need the pain relief to not do the Frankenstein walk and do the stretching and physio properly then of course you should load up on painkillers NSAIDs etc
3. "Undoing" it is based on physio and stretches - see www.sheffieldachesandpains.com for NHS approved advice
4. Not getting it again is based on understanding why/how you got it - there's more than one way - and as others have said, weak core muscles and improper use of your back - lifting is most obvious but bad posture and sitting incorrectly will also do it and usually are more implicated than lifting - cos we all sit and stand and run "wrong" more of the time than we are lifting something wrongly!
Hope that helps - good luck with recovery
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Agree with Rbanners.
Sciatica can be many things. It can be:
Near lumbal:
- herniated disc/ stenosis (Worst case scenario)
-rotated vertebrae (osteopath/ chiro)
-tight multifidae or rotatores mm. (stretches and proper warmup.)
Buttocks:
- subluxated SI joint (hip/back connects here - Osteopath/chiro)
- Tight Glutes (Physio or stretches)
- Tight piriformis (VERY COMMON SCIATICA PAIN - Streches, foamroll, correction of your gait and driving posture)
And many many more.. Please advice with your physician.
Regards, a clinical physio.
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Agree with Rbanners.
Sciatica can be many things. It can be:
- Tight piriformis (VERY COMMON SCIATICA PAIN - Streches, foamroll, correction of your gait and driving posture)
And many many more.. Please advice with your physician.
Regards, a clinical physio.
I have suffered from this and it is very painful. Different to a muscular pain and you can't 'run it off' - you feel as if your leg is starting to collapse if you try. Good Physio helped and exercises to keep it at bay are simple and easy to do.
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Agree with Rbanners.
Sciatica can be many things. It can be:
Near lumbal:
- herniated disc/ stenosis (Worst case scenario)
-rotated vertebrae (osteopath/ chiro)
-tight multifidae or rotatores mm. (stretches and proper warmup.)
Buttocks:
- subluxated SI joint (hip/back connects here - Osteopath/chiro)
- Tight Glutes (Physio or stretches)
- Tight piriformis (VERY COMMON SCIATICA PAIN - Streches, foamroll, correction of your gait and driving posture)
And many many more.. Please advice with your physician.
Regards, a clinical physio.
Thank goodness you went through all of that so I didn't have to!
Good revision for me!
rbanners
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Not to much to add beyond the yoga stretching exercises that jd163 posted worked for me.
I tried physio and chiropractors without sucess. Doing yoga finally sorted out the underlying problem (loss of hip flexibility during recovery from torn knee ligament) and I have been pain free ever since.
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Thank goodness you went through all of that so I didn't have to!
Good revision for me!
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Just a day at work buddy :)
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I am reading this and wondering if it's what I have struggled to get out of bed this morning can't stand up from a sitting position without pain at the bottom of my spine cant cough sneeze or breath deep without it hurting can walk about but if I bend my back can't straighten up without lower back hurting any thoughts anyone
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It's one of many possibilities - in any case, doesn't sound good!
Any low back pain, acute (started gradually or suddenly but new, discrete episode) or chronic (longstanding, as opposed to severe, which may wax and wane) should be properly assessed by your GP who will either be confident enough to diagnose on the basis of history and examination or refer you to physio for a better assessment and help with the correct course of physio.
Self diagnosis is not recommended unless you are confident about the cause and effect and happy to join the dots yourself...it sounds like you have a muscle strain/spasm more than sciatica which refers to the pinching of the nerve as it exits your backbone. This can go on to cause sciatica. But don't take my diagnosis - if it's bad and limiting you, get it looked at.
Hope you get on ok - do refer to that website I posted earlier to see what you may have...sheffieldachesandpains.com
Cheers
Rbanners
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I am reading this and wondering if it's what I have struggled to get out of bed this morning can't stand up from a sitting position without pain at the bottom of my spine cant cough sneeze or breath deep without it hurting can walk about but if I bend my back can't straighten up without lower back hurting any thoughts anyone
Buy a bat
Go to a net
Slog, biff and hit on the up
Winner
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I am reading this and wondering if it's what I have struggled to get out of bed this morning can't stand up from a sitting position without pain at the bottom of my spine cant cough sneeze or breath deep without it hurting can walk about but if I bend my back can't straighten up without lower back hurting any thoughts anyone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPz9A4TWMCQ&index=2&list=PLDeJ_OUeu8bNpsyAMsyMVw--pTXc4aMLa (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPz9A4TWMCQ&index=2&list=PLDeJ_OUeu8bNpsyAMsyMVw--pTXc4aMLa)
If you feel local back pain, doing this - but no perifery pain - then this is your way out. 10 times every 2 hours - 3-4 days.
But really - this is like fixing a car over email!?
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I have had a L4/L5 and L5/S1 herniation and been in debilitating pain. Intially, the first phase was conservative management combined with pain killers and then latterly physical rehabilitation; stretching, building paraspinal strength etc. It will take time, try not force it.
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It's one of many possibilities - in any case, doesn't sound good!
Any low back pain, acute (started gradually or suddenly but new, discrete episode) or chronic (longstanding, as opposed to severe, which may wax and wane) should be properly assessed by your GP who will either be confident enough to diagnose on the basis of history and examination or refer you to physio for a better assessment and help with the correct course of physio.
Self diagnosis is not recommended unless you are confident about the cause and effect and happy to join the dots yourself...it sounds like you have a muscle strain/spasm more than sciatica which refers to the pinching of the nerve as it exits your backbone. This can go on to cause sciatica. But don't take my diagnosis - if it's bad and limiting you, get it looked at.
Hope you get on ok - do refer to that website I posted earlier to see what you may have...sheffieldachesandpains.com
Cheers
Rbanners
Thanks for the advice it's much appreciated
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPz9A4TWMCQ&index=2&list=PLDeJ_OUeu8bNpsyAMsyMVw--pTXc4aMLa (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bPz9A4TWMCQ&index=2&list=PLDeJ_OUeu8bNpsyAMsyMVw--pTXc4aMLa)
If you feel local back pain, doing this - but no perifery pain - then this is your way out. 10 times every 2 hours - 3-4 days.
But really - this is like fixing a car over email!?
Yes but the problem is myself and every other patient are told to ring the surgery at 8am on the day you need to see a doctor then what happens if the surgery has 20 vacant appoitments that day and you are No 21 in the telephone queue you you don't get to see a doctor.
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Yes but the problem is myself and every other patient are told to ring the surgery at 8am on the day you need to see a doctor then what happens if the surgery has 20 vacant appoitments that day and you are No 21 in the telephone queue you you don't get to see a doctor.
True - but if you tell them what you've got in terms of symptoms and what you're worried about - you will be given an appt if not that day then the next - your GP should have a telephone triage service where you can speak with your GP and they will be able to give you a time-appropriate appt to be assessed - as steffan says, you can't do all of this on the phone or by email!
If you're getting fobbed off then don't stand for it. It's not you're surgery's fault that there's so much demand for appts. But you shouldn't be fobbed off either.
Good luck
Rbanners
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In my experience the GP appointment was a bit of a waste of time. They don't really use the straight leg test as a diagnostic tool anymore so they usually send for an MRI. That will take another 6-8 weeks during which time they will advise conservative mangement.
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In my experience the GP appointment was a bit of a waste of time. They don't really use the straight leg test as a diagnostic tool anymore so they usually send for an MRI. That will take another 6-8 weeks during which time they will advise conservative mangement.
They jolly well should not be sending for an MRI unless you have neurological symptoms! That's totally against the evidence in this country and the guidance from NICE. Even though this guidance is usually biased towards secondary and doesn't support primary care decision-making, in this case, it absolutely does not insist on an MRI in the first instance.
If your GP is doing something you're unhappy with, feel free to raise it with them next time you see them.
They should be able to diagnose and manage the initial pain associated with a muscle spasm etc while referring you to physio for further assessment without in the first instance making you wait 2 months for a potentially useless or potentially harmful investigation.
Cheers
rbanners
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True - but if you tell them what you've got in terms of symptoms and what you're worried about - you will be given an appt if not that day then the next - your GP should have a telephone triage service where you can speak with your GP and they will be able to give you a time-appropriate appt to be assessed - as steffan says, you can't do all of this on the phone or by email!
If you're getting fobbed off then don't stand for it. It's not you're surgery's fault that there's so much demand for appts. But you shouldn't be fobbed off either.
Good luck
Rbanners
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Thanks again
I did ring this morning at 8am stressed i was in pain and was told there were no more appointments today wasn't offered an appointment tomorrow or a return telephone call told to ring tomorrow at 8am or go to hospital
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Cheers for the advice lads. Got a physio appointment this weekend so hopefully he puts me right!
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8 days after my original post still in agony managed to get to see a Doc yesterday told I've strained a ligament in my back attached to the thigh bone I think given co.codamol and told to keep active but can't bend or straighten back without pain. could be 4 to 6 weeks what a setback was going to start to get the ground facilities ready this week outside nets start in 3 weeks first match on the 14th of April.
Loads of spring cleaning jobs need doing around the house inside and out as well can't even clean the car or prepare and sort out my kit.
After 50 seasons of looking forward to and preparing for the start of a new season it's Really frustrating
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They jolly well should not be sending for an MRI unless you have neurological symptoms! That's totally against the evidence in this country and the guidance from NICE. Even though this guidance is usually biased towards secondary and doesn't support primary care decision-making, in this case, it absolutely does not insist on an MRI in the first instance.
I'll leave that one at the discretion of my GP thanks.
Nor did I suggest insisting on an MRI hence the use of the qualifier 'In my experience.'
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I'll leave that one at the discretion of my GP thanks.
Nor did I suggest insisting on an MRI hence the use of the qualifier 'In my experience.'
I was trying to support your frustration about having to wait weeks for an MRI. I am also in the medical professions and fully appraised of the latest guidance here.
What I was trying to say was, if your GP is doing something that is
1. Not following current guidance
2. Causing you to wait for weeks for an answer and treatment
3. Not giving you the help you need or assessing you thoroughly themselves, then you should feel supported in taking this up with them rather than waiting for a scan.
4. This sort of thing is not meant to be left to the discretion of an individual usually - this is why we have national guidance on who/when to refer for what.
I was not suggesting you had asked for a scan, I was sympathising with what sounded like frustration or dissatisfaction on your part, and trying to help.
Scans are sadly potentially dangerous for a number of reasons so that's why there is guidance about not doing them unless specifically indicated.
Hope that clears things up. I'm sorry if I've offended in any way - not my intention at all.
Cheers
Banners
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That's twice in 2 days I'be caused offence inadvertently.
I think I may go back to lurking - this forum business is a bit fraught.
Seniorplayer - acute back pain like this is sadly very disabling. Good to know its an injury that will right itself with time and physio rather than a deeper issue with more worry attaches to it though. I know that's no consolation for the pain or frustration.
If you're on 30/500 cocodamol and taking 2 tabs 4 times a day that's an equivalent daily dose of 6mg of morphine. So it's obvious that this is very painful.
Good luck with recovery. I did a similar thing on my stag and it did take ages to right itself.
Do touch base with your doctor if anything worsens rather than improves.
Sorry if I've said anything out of turn or offensive.
Cheers
Banners
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That's twice in 2 days I'be caused offence inadvertently.
I think I may go back to lurking - this forum business is a bit fraught.
Seniorplayer - acute back pain like this is sadly very disabling. Good to know its an injury that will right itself with time and physio rather than a deeper issue with more worry attaches to it though. I know that's no consolation for the pain or frustration.
If you're on 30/500 cocodamol and taking 2 tabs 4 times a day that's an equivalent daily dose of 6mg of morphine. So it's obvious that this is very painful.
Good luck with recovery. I did a similar thing on my stag and it did take ages to right itself.
Do touch base with your doctor if anything worsens rather than improves.
Sorry if I've said anything out of turn or offensive.
Cheers
Banners
Keep up the good work mate, your advice will be useful to someone so don't be put off posting it by those who don't appreciate it.
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That's twice in 2 days I'be caused offence inadvertently.
I think I may go back to lurking - this forum business is a bit fraught.
Seniorplayer - acute back pain like this is sadly very disabling. Good to know its an injury that will right itself with time and physio rather than a deeper issue with more worry attaches to it though. I know that's no consolation for the pain or frustration.
If you're on 30/500 cocodamol and taking 2 tabs 4 times a day that's an equivalent daily dose of 6mg of morphine. So it's obvious that this is very painful.
Good luck with recovery. I did a similar thing on my stag and it did take ages to right itself.
Do touch base with your doctor if anything worsens rather than improves.
Sorry if I've said anything out of turn or offensive.
Cheers
Banners
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Thankyou for the advice and best wishes doctor has prescribed 3 co.codamol 4 times a day. I have also. Unintentionally annoyed people on here.