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Equipment => Your Kit => Topic started by: Percy on March 15, 2016, 10:49:30 AM
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I won't deny it I like "stuff"! If its well made and pleasing to the eye I don't really care whether its a cricket bat or a pair of shoes I can appreciate that its been built by a craftsman and is a thing of beauty. I like shiny new things and believe that if they make you feel good then sub-consciously you will be more confident and that in turn will impact, in the case of sport, how you play. I realise that sometimes what you are buying is too expensive and that you can buy something similar for less, but to me I am also buying pleasure and that also can have a price.
Where I struggle is how we sometimes try to justify things on this forum. I am sure that there are some pretty talented cricketers here but I find it amusing that we debate at length the merits or an ounce here or a bit of padding there. As an example, the majority of international players use Masuri helmets. There are lighter ones on the market, perhaps even better ones, but if a pro is not bothered about the extra ounce compared to say a Shrey should we be or are we just trying to justify our purchase; I doubt that the majority of us are good enough to really notice the difference.
I think what I am trying to say is buy what you like, can afford and gives you pleasure. If you can achieve that then I doubt you will notice the extra ounce.
Just a thought :)
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in my case I just bought a much cheaper lid (the GM one) that is also much lighter and passes the test.
I have no idea why anyone would buy the masuri lid over the GM one. :o
I am looking at all my kit and trying to see how I can make it lighter - rather than many kilos heavier!
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in my case I just bought a much cheaper lid (the GM one) that is also much lighter and passes the test.
I have no idea why anyone would buy the masuri lid over the GM one. :o
I am looking at all my kit and trying to see how I can make it lighter - rather than many kilos heavier!
Because the pros use them and they want to be like them and use the same kit and maybe they prefer the look :)
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I won't deny it I like "stuff"! If its well made and pleasing to the eye I don't really care whether its a cricket bat or a pair of shoes I can appreciate that its been built by a craftsman and is a thing of beauty. I like shiny new things and believe that if they make you feel good then sub-consciously you will be more confident and that in turn will impact, in the case of sport, how you play. I realise that sometimes what you are buying is too expensive and that you can buy something similar for less, but to me I am also buying pleasure and that also can have a price.
Where I struggle is how we sometimes try to justify things on this forum. I am sure that there are some pretty talented cricketers here but I find it amusing that we debate at length the merits or an ounce here or a bit of padding there. As an example, the majority of international players use Masuri helmets. There are lighter ones on the market, perhaps even better ones, but if a pro is not bothered about the extra ounce compared to say a Shrey should we be or are we just trying to justify our purchase; I doubt that the majority of us are good enough to really notice the difference.
I think what I am trying to say is buy what you like, can afford and gives you pleasure. If you can achieve that then I doubt you will notice the extra ounce.
Just a thought :)
Don't really get where you're coming from with this to be honest, it's not about being a pro or an amateur it's about what feels right and for me it wasn't 'just an ounce' it was the difference between being comfortable batting or feeling like I had an anvil strapped to my head. And for the sake of accuracy isn't the difference between the helmets 200 grams? which is about 7 ounces. That's quite a lot. The next time you order a 2.8 bat and it weighs 7 ounces more I assume you either won't notice and presumably won't be complaining then?
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in my case I just bought a much cheaper lid (the GM one) that is also much lighter and passes the test.
I have no idea why anyone would buy the masuri lid over the GM one. :o
I am looking at all my kit and trying to see how I can make it lighter - rather than many kilos heavier!
Because GM is a brand that makes bats & softs too, so I'd have to use all their gear to have matching kit.
Albion, Masuri and Shrey are "neutral" in the fact they do not make bats or softs, so can go with any kit and keep my OCD happy.
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I agree with Buzz a lighter kit is the way forward and makes more sense than unnecessarily buying expensive kit that is heavier than a cheaper equivalent. I think as you get older every ounce makes a difference. Especially when trying to run those quick singles. We certainly need that edge over the younger generation.
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@WalkingWicket37 I remember albion bringing a range of pads gloves and bats out. I used to have an albion helmet and bag and wanted to get the rest of the kit. Think it was only sold overseas though Australia New Zealand from memory.
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I'm not advocating buying something heavier or that you buy a masuri helmet but buy what makes you happy. I just don't believe that many of us can really tell the difference (if it's minor difference, clearly 7ozs on a bat is extreme!).
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I think 7 ounces on a helmet is equally as extreme, especially as where your head goes your body will follow.
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I always try and leave price out of the equation as much as possible and go for stuff I feel comfortable with. Obviously there are times when the cost would be ridiculous but I'll give myself a budget and decide what's best for me.
Examples... £70 glove budget but bought £40 gloves as they felt more comfortable and supple compared to more expensive ones. Likewise, £100 for pads and spent £90 as they felt the most comfortable and protective. The last time I went for pads I ended up with a £45 pair of pads that felt comfy and protective. Just how it feels for me really.
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I think 7 ounces on a helmet is equally as extreme, especially as where your head goes your body will follow.
But clearly not enough to put off most international players. This wasn't meant to be about masuri but about buying what you like without having to justify it. [emoji1]
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But clearly not enough to put off most international players. This wasn't meant to be about masuri but about buying what you like without having to justify it. [emoji1]
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You say that but there's quite a few still using older helmets or lighter brands. So it has been enough to put off quite a few. I do agree you should buy what makes you happy though! Otherwise this forum would be a very quiet, very miserable place! I just don't agree at all that 7 ounces on a helmet is negligible.
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Kit needs to be like a second skin comfortable and light not a fan of bulklyness
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It is why i have always been fussy about pads and gloves...
I have been trying a new glove for the last month and got to say i could never use anything else due to it feeling like i'm batting with no gloves and not some kind of storm trooper fat padding.
Things that bother me are top hats that sit back and bulk around the sides and also gloves that have too thick a palm and you loose feel.
Feel of gloves is very important to me and it why i do not use inners but with pads i do not like pads that feel thick padded.
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What do you currently rock pad and glove wise @procricket B3 ?
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What do you currently rock pad and glove wise @procricket B3 ?
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All in good time i'm working on stuff trying stuff out...
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Us amateurs don't have any financial incentive to wear a heavier lid though remember! Or need to worry about 90+mph bowling, there's been more than a few internationals clearly changing because they consider the Masuri safer.
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Us amateurs don't have any financial incentive to wear a heavier lid though remember! Or need to worry about 90+mph bowling, there's been more than a few internationals clearly changing because they consider the Masuri safer.
This really wasn't meant to be about masuri - I just used them as an example. I maybe wrong but I thought I read somewhere that Masuri didn't sponsor anyone (wait for the deluge telling me how wrong I am :)).
Your absolutely right though, we very rarely have to worry about 90 mph bowling but we like the kit that can protect us against it so we buy it - its not really necessary but we like so we buy. In fact, we could probably get away with much cheaper lighter equipment giving less protection, which would be perfectly adequate for the levels I certainly play at, but it wouldn't give us the same pleasure - thigh pads for instance.
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Absolutely, my 1s skipper uses the youths Aero thigh pads which are much less protective for example, I was a bit dubious when he got them but he says they're much more comfortable for him and he clearly isn't bothered if he gets hit there, so fair play to him, makes sense and saves money. Gloves is probably the only thing where you want as good protection as possible I think, even though the bowling speeds are lower I'm sure we've all seen someone injure their fingers batting in amateur cricket.
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Us amateurs don't have any financial incentive to wear a heavier lid though remember! Or need to worry about 90+mph bowling, there's been more than a few internationals clearly changing because they consider the Masuri safer.
I use a new style Masuri and only test match grade protection, speak for yourself not having to worry about 90pmh bowling! ;)
Admittedly I've never cone across a bowler who can send it down at that speed, but ai like to know I'm safe if I ever do! If it's good enough for a Test Match, it is good enough to make me feel safe playing against the 13 year old, there to make up numbers and given a token 2 overs out of sympathy, in a Sunday friendly.
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It is why i have always been fussy about pads and gloves...
I have been trying a new glove for the last month and got to say i could never use anything else due to it feeling like i'm batting with no gloves and not some kind of storm trooper fat padding.
Things that bother me are top hats that sit back and bulk around the sides and also gloves that have too thick a palm and you loose feel.
Feel of gloves is very important to me and it why i do not use inners but with pads i do not like pads that feel thick padded.
same here always have worn youth pads brought a pair of low grade GN gloves the other week to enable me to feel the bat handle as long as kit meets British standards it should offer reasonable protection.
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same here always have worn youth pads brought a pair of low grade GN gloves the other week to enable me to feel the bat handle as long as kit meets British standards it should offer reasonable protection.
I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but don't believe there is a protection standard for pads and gloves?
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I personally use a Masuri and have done for a while now. For a few seasons I had the older style Test Titanium and I currently use the Vision Elite Titanium. In the past I have used Gray Nicolls and G&M helmets and personally I felt they didn't fit my head particularly well especially the Gray Nicolls. Most players at my club are using Masuri helmets now or Albion helmets. Having faced some pretty quick bowling in recent years and have felt safer in my Masuri
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Pads an gloves I'm fussier than my bats!
Once spent a full day in romida going through thousands of gloves
Then after finally going back to some top end slazenger ones , I had to pop back the day after to go through the pads!
Ended up with some cheapo gray nicks
All based purely on feel and comfort
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I buy kit that is way too advanced for my level, pretty much the top of the range stuff that suits my game (low middle on the bat for our lifeless wicket). I buy only GN kit and Adidas for shoes and clothing as they do our team kit. I do this because luckily I have enough money and not many other expensive interests and also I hate not having matching kit. I don't like having dirty kit either. I know it is silly and won't make a difference to how my elbow stays high etc but if I think psychologically, if I feel I look good I get a little boost. I don't think someone with mis-matched kit is any worse, probably a decent player who doesn't need an ego boost through kit.
For keeping I get the top of the range gloves because I assume if they are for test players they have the best protection for my hands so minimise knocks that could stop me playing. Having said that I am currently rubbing ibuprofen gel into my finger in the hope it will be OK for the weekend after a nasty blow at nets. Maybe cheaper gloves would have resulted in a more serious injury, maybe not.
I didn't play senior cricket until I was 28 (4 years ago) so when I got back into it I had to buy everything. At that point I looked at all the gear and plumped for GN and have stuck with it ever since, so luckily I have only had to buy most things once.
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I buy kit that is way too advanced for my level, pretty much the top of the range stuff that suits my game (low middle on the bat for our lifeless wicket). I buy only GN kit and Adidas for shoes and clothing as they do our team kit. I do this because luckily I have enough money and not many other expensive interests and also I hate not having matching kit. I don't like having dirty kit either. I know it is silly and won't make a difference to how my elbow stays high etc but if I think psychologically, if I feel I look good I get a little boost. I don't think someone with mis-matched kit is any worse, probably a decent player who doesn't need an ego boost through kit.
For keeping I get the top of the range gloves because I assume if they are for test players they have the best protection for my hands so minimise knocks that could stop me playing. Having said that I am currently rubbing ibuprofen gel into my finger in the hope it will be OK for the weekend after a nasty blow at nets. Maybe cheaper gloves would have resulted in a more serious injury, maybe not.
I didn't play senior cricket until I was 28 (4 years ago) so when I got back into it I had to buy everything. At that point I looked at all the gear and plumped for GN and have stuck with it ever since, so luckily I have only had to buy most things once.
I totally agree with you on the matching kit, I prefer to have my kit looking the same as it looks smarter. Feeling comfortable in and with your kit is psychologically very important as if you trust your kit then you are more likely to relax and be able to just play the game. There are plenty of other sports and famous sports stars that are like this.
Jenson Button (Formula 1)- is always trying to perfect the set up of his car to find the perfect balance
Phil Taylor (Darts)- Phil is always trying different materials and shapes for his darts as he's constantly looking for the perfect dart for his action
Neymar (Football)- he is one of the top Nike contracted players and is payed to market the Nike Hypervenom Phantom II, however he isn't comfortable in the Hypervenom Phantom II so recently he's been seen wearing the Nike Mercurial Superfly IV but the colour schemes on the upper have been made to look like the Hypervenom as he is contracted to advertise the Hypervenom range.
Being comfortable in your sports kit is in my opinion the most important thing