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General Cricket => Cricket Training, Fitness and Injuries => Topic started by: TGB1997 on March 30, 2016, 10:36:14 AM
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Currently I am 19 years old bowling left arm orthodox spin aiming to play this season in my clubs 2XI where I ended last season. Over the winter I've been trying to improve my consistency and tactics against our 1st and 2nd team batsmen which has been a really enjoyable challenge. I mostly rely on variations of pace, natural variations and forcing the batsmen to make a mistake by putting them under pressure. These have been quite successful for me in the past especially in the T20 format as well as during the death at the end of a longer games innings.
In the past couple of weeks I've been trying slightly different grips and even tried scrambling the seam purposely to try and confuse the batsmen thinking I'm bowling something new when in fact its just regular ball. I found this delivery was difficult for the batsmen to face due to the natural variation of the scrambled seam but I'm looking for something new to try and bowl as I think it could help me develop my game further and potentially enable me to be in contention for the 1st team in the future.
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An arm ball is probably the simplest variation to learn and use.
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I'm a leg spinner. What I normally try after a bit of pressure and you see they want to hit out is a top spinner. A bit more flight so their timing will hopefully be a little out and with the extra bounce they should scoop it up for a catch.
Just make sure you put enough revs on the ball otherwise they'll see it for what it is; a slow ball begging to be hit.
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I've found that one of the easiest variations to work on is just to vary how close to the stumps you get when you bowl.
This then changes the angle the ball is coming at the batsmen and again varies how much it will turn just from simply bowling wider/straighter on the crease.
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the top spinner can be useful, more of over-spinner...useful armery when batsman play sweep shot so u can get easy top edge at 45.
or even short leg...extra bounce catches glove and short leg fielder dives full length takes one handed catch inches of the ground.....and then give him a send off because hes been churping you for the 5 balls he faced.
nice end to the over
However there pro comes in, you bowl your stock delivery, and a again but third ball you go for the caroom ball cleans him....go up to thee pro and do the DJ BRAVO dance
Hope this helps :)
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An arm ball is probably the simplest variation to learn and use.
This is something I've been trying to do more intentionally this winter as like I mentioned my natural variations sometimes come out like an arm ball but I've been trying to use it more effectively this winter as the amount of LBW shouts I get increased last season playing in better pitches where it occasionally wouldn't turn.
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I've found that one of the easiest variations to work on is just to vary how close to the stumps you get when you bowl.
This then changes the angle the ball is coming at the batsmen and again varies how much it will turn just from simply bowling wider/straighter on the crease.
I like the idea of using the crease more as currently I like switching from over to around the wicket to left handers a lot to create an attacking angle but I will consider going wider of the crease a bit more :)
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I'm a leg spinner. What I normally try after a bit of pressure and you see they want to hit out is a top spinner. A bit more flight so their timing will hopefully be a little out and with the extra bounce they should scoop it up for a catch.
Just make sure you put enough revs on the ball otherwise they'll see it for what it is; a slow ball begging to be hit.
I'm a big fan of tactics like this as I've tried some similar plans myself however I haven't yet been able to get the correct wrist angle to be able to bowl the top spinner due to injuries I had when I first started bowling spin.
I remember a net session last year where I was bowling at one our 1st team openers who is very aggressive against the spinners. During this session it was just me, the first team captain who will bowl some part time leg spin and the first teams main spinner. I was given a standard spinners field to begin with having long on and long off on the boundary as well as a deep mid wicket. I bowled a couple of balls to the batsmen and realised he was trying to hit straight down the ground so I had the bold plan to bring long off up into the circle and bowl a leg stump line (the theory behind this was that as the man had been brought up the batsmen would try and hit it over mid off no matter the line of the ball). Sure enough my plan worked first ball I bowled on leg stump straightening slightly and the batsmen chipped it straight to where mid off would of been.
These tactics were quite successful in the past but theres only so far it can get me
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I bowl a bit of crap off spin but I can bowl a mean googly (I cant bowl leggies though)
Pitch it outside off, they set up to cut the ball as they think its a standard leggie and is going to spin away from them, but it actually nips back in and rattles the stumps :)
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Work on a doosra so you have one that spins into the right hander
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I started bowling off spin last season, to reasonable success!
My biggest variations were flight, speed, revs and fielders. Changing the flight of the ball catches so many batsmen out, mixed with getting the speed correct and allowing for dip and turn you pick up a lot of wickets.
Also fiddling with your fielders I found, even just moving them 5 yards, plays with the batsman, as he suddenly thinks gaps are bigger and can get it through there, mixed with altering your flight and speed!
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I started bowling off spin last season, to reasonable success!
My biggest variations were flight, speed, revs and fielders. Changing the flight of the ball catches so many batsmen out, mixed with getting the speed correct and allowing for dip and turn you pick up a lot of wickets.
Also fiddling with your fielders I found, even just moving them 5 yards, plays with the batsman, as he suddenly thinks gaps are bigger and can get it through there, mixed with altering your flight and speed!
Yeah this tactic I'm also a big believer in as its also a mental game and trying to get into the batsmen's head can help you knock them over, like the quick bowlers do when using the short ball to put it in their mind and to help stop them getting forward so freely.
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I wouldn't bother with 'mystery' balls, stick to the basics. Perfect your standard delivery and adjust your lines or pace or angle. That's what does the batsman most of the time, the key being to not make it obvious to the batsman what's coming his/her way.
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I wouldn't bother with 'mystery' balls, stick to the basics. Perfect your standard delivery and adjust your lines or pace or angle. That's what does the batsman most of the time, the key being to not make it obvious to the batsman what's coming his/her way.
I've been working really hard on this over the past couple of years as I realise that by being a left arm spinner its not the most popular with batsmen so using this to my advantage and boring or frustrating the batsmen to make a mistake is something that could be successful
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I've been working really hard on this over the past couple of years as I realise that by being a left arm spinner its not the most popular with batsmen so using this to my advantage and boring or frustrating the batsmen to make a mistake is something that could be successful
With the ball turning away from most players you're at an advantage. Watch Rangana Herath bowl, nothing complicated and just subtle changes and variations.
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With the ball turning away from most players you're at an advantage. Watch Rangana Herath bowl, nothing complicated and just subtle changes and variations.
I used to really enjoy watching Graeme Swann bowling to left handers spinning the ball away from the bat with the odd ball skidding on so I definitely agree this is an advantage
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Just think what you'd rather face, someone trying all these different variations (and chances are not getting them all spot on) or a spinner who is on the money every ball and subtly changes their speed, position on the crease & release height?
Id rather face the one trying all sorts every day of the week.
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Just think what you'd rather face, someone trying all these different variations (and chances are not getting them all spot on) or a spinner who is on the money every ball and subtly changes their speed, position on the crease & release height?
Id rather face the one trying all sorts every day of the week.
I would rather face the bowler trying many different deliveries as well, I was just looking for one delivery that does something different as I'm still fairly young in spinners terms and have around 8 years before I hit my peak, I do have a bit of trouble with my consistency and landing on the crease so I find that being a pressure bowler doesn't always work.
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If you have trouble with consistency then work on that first. It'll make you a much better bowler than trying to learn an arm ball, a doosra, a slider etc.
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I would rather face the bowler trying many different deliveries as well, I was just looking for one delivery that does something different as I'm still fairly young in spinners terms and have around 8 years before I hit my peak, I do have a bit of trouble with my consistency and landing on the crease so I find that being a pressure bowler doesn't always work.
A ball that looks like your regulation delivery but that doesn't spin is a potent weapon, whether this is just natural variation, a top spinner, an arm ball or whatever, but as stated being able to build pressure with your stock delivery is most important.
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This winter I've been far more consistent than last season but I don't want to get too confident until I get outside as the conditions are really different. The surface I'm bowling on will be different and my boots are a much different feel to running trainers. Hopefully this season will be the big one for me
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Getting a batsman tied down with your stock delivery often leads to that batsman having to try something out of the ordinary to try and score off you and it more often leads to a wicket. If you do have to change anything, just varying the pace and revs on the ball should do enough to unsettle them.
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This winter I've been far more consistent than last season but I don't want to get too confident until I get outside as the conditions are really different. The surface I'm bowling on will be different and my boots are a much different feel to running trainers. Hopefully this season will be the big one for me
If you're worrying about bowling differently based on how your shoes feel, then I think you might be worrying about the wrong things...
Just relax, enjoy it, try to land the ball consistently and give it a rip!
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Thank you for all the advice, I'm really looking forward to this season and will take everything onboard for nets this weekend and the rest of the season.