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Title: James Taylor Retires
Post by: RoCo Da Pixie on April 12, 2016, 09:24:31 AM
Retires due to a heart condition. Shame at the age of 26. Was a quality player
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Post by: Tom on April 12, 2016, 09:24:54 AM
Just read that. Very saddening to hear

http://www.trentbridge.co.uk/news/2016/april/james-taylor-forced-to-retire.html (http://www.trentbridge.co.uk/news/2016/april/james-taylor-forced-to-retire.html)
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Post by: csnew on April 12, 2016, 09:28:16 AM
Wow complete shock! Sad news for a talented player! Mistreated by england
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Post by: wilkie113 on April 12, 2016, 09:28:28 AM
That's terrible terrible news  :o
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Post by: Alvaro on April 12, 2016, 09:29:58 AM
Terrible news. Especially as it seemed his heart was the biggest thing about him.
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Post by: roco on April 12, 2016, 09:30:57 AM
Can't believe this

Was just finding his feet as an international and then this
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Post by: shamelessshaun on April 12, 2016, 09:31:40 AM
All the best to the little big man in his operation and recovery.
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Post by: justnotcricket86 on April 12, 2016, 09:35:30 AM
That is bloody awful. Can't believe it.
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Post by: ppccopener on April 12, 2016, 09:35:48 AM
this is very sad indeed

you just never know in sport, shows how a sportsman's career can be very short
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Post by: iand123 on April 12, 2016, 09:36:08 AM
Terrible news
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Post by: Gelds on April 12, 2016, 09:36:42 AM
Such sad news! Wish him all the best with his recovery.
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Post by: OllieWalker39 on April 12, 2016, 09:37:26 AM
No way!! Ridiculously sad and a real shame; hard working player who was getting to realising his true potential! Will be missed, and now there is no one smaller than me :( Damn.
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Post by: smilley792 on April 12, 2016, 09:37:53 AM
Did not expect that. My heart goes out to the lad, hopefully he can have his op, recover and lead a normal life after.

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Post by: GoodLeave on April 12, 2016, 09:40:18 AM
Gutted. Class player.
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Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on April 12, 2016, 09:40:45 AM
Shocking to hear as was such a genuine and nice lad, model pro who gave his all.

Health has to come 1st though and it obviously means retiring to pursue new things which is a real shame as IMO he was at the top of his game now.
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Post by: rickjames on April 12, 2016, 09:41:46 AM
Horrible really considering he'd got some kind of foothold in the test side as well. Wish him well...
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Post by: Buzz on April 12, 2016, 09:44:40 AM
Really sad, just as he was getting a run in the test team.
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Post by: wayward_hayward on April 12, 2016, 09:46:40 AM
Awful news, all the best to him.
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Post by: WalkingWicket37 on April 12, 2016, 09:48:27 AM
Absolutely gutted. A huge loss for England, Notts and cricket itself.

Always enjoyed watching Titch bat, wishing him a speedy recovery
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Post by: rickjames on April 12, 2016, 09:50:36 AM
It feels stupid reminiscing an event that only happened 3 months ago, but whatever...

http://youtu.be/g_2KCA0mYNM (http://youtu.be/g_2KCA0mYNM)
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Post by: liscon12 on April 12, 2016, 09:52:48 AM
Wow I can't imagine how he's feeling right now, having something you're passionate and love taken away from you at such a young age is heartbreaking and I know as I was so close to becoming a commercial pilot only to be told I can't after discovering I'm slightly colour-blind.

I know he'll get lots of support from friends and family and can only wish he finds the same happiness and thrills in whatever he does next.

All the best titch  :(

Jump to 3:13 http://youtu.be/RJdQ6MuWmtE (http://youtu.be/RJdQ6MuWmtE)
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Post by: Butterfingerz on April 12, 2016, 09:55:21 AM
A real shame, bumped into him at Trent Bridge a couple of weeks ago, seems like a genuine nice guy and he career was really looking up.

A real loss to cricket

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Post by: well past my peak on April 12, 2016, 10:02:46 AM
Huge shock and huge shame, I really enjoyed watching him go about his business and I'm an Aussie so it's breed into us to dislike the poms, but I have a huge respect for James.
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Post by: jamesisapayne on April 12, 2016, 10:03:17 AM
Feel really gutted for him, he seems like not only a top class player with great determination but also a really great guy too.

Wish him all the very best for the future, I'm sure he'll be a success in whatever he does.
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Post by: SirScottiod on April 12, 2016, 10:12:16 AM
Devastating, just as he was on the cusp of really making a name for himself in the test arena. Shocking news and gutted for him
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Post by: John P on April 12, 2016, 10:20:23 AM
Awful news, just as it looked like he was starting to establish himself. Looked a very talented player.
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Post by: uknsaunders on April 12, 2016, 10:20:38 AM
Terrible news. Wish him all the best and with time on his side he could make a fine coach in years to come.
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Post by: northernboy1987 on April 12, 2016, 10:23:37 AM
Really shocking news, gutted for him, he finally looked like he had a regular spot tied down after getting a rough deal for a couple of years as well.
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Post by: Northern monkey on April 12, 2016, 10:24:10 AM
Ah so gutted for him
Must be so heartbreaking for him and his family
Absolute star to watch bat, such a talent
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Post by: i12breakfree on April 12, 2016, 10:27:46 AM
That is heartbreaking. So is the possibility of a comeback rare ?
Best wishes to him for his speedy recovery.
May be we can send him some token of support and wishes from the forum. I am ready to contribute if needed.
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Post by: northernboy1987 on April 12, 2016, 10:31:24 AM
At least it was diagnosed early I suppose, god knows what could have happened otherwise.
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Post by: ppccopener on April 12, 2016, 10:37:02 AM
That is heartbreaking. So is the possibility of a comeback rare ?
Best wishes to him for his speedy recovery.
May be we can send him some token of support and wishes from the forum. I am ready to contribute if needed.

excellent idea to send forum wishes, we are not just here to sell stuff and the like

same condition as fabreece muamba(who my sister in law taught at school and is a lovely bloke) I believe. he could never play sport again so JT'S career is over.

You would hope there is something down the line with the advancement of medical science but Fabreece was around the same age and there was no chance for him to resume a footballing career
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Post by: procricket on April 12, 2016, 10:55:40 AM
Keep going tich lad you will find another path

Such a sad news all the best legend
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Post by: GDP1964 on April 12, 2016, 10:56:42 AM
Very Sad News wishing J Taylor all the best
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Post by: Alvaro on April 12, 2016, 11:04:27 AM
At least it was diagnosed early I suppose, god knows what could have happened otherwise.

Yes - remember Wilf Slack. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilf_Slack
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Post by: procricket on April 12, 2016, 11:06:45 AM
On a day of sad news

Rip this cricketer

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36022324 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-36022324)

One life live it

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Post by: kenbriooo on April 12, 2016, 11:51:57 AM
Such shocking news, could have been worse I guess.
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Post by: InternalTraining on April 12, 2016, 12:44:08 PM
Oh no!!!!!

He stands tall in the world full of six-footer batters and represents us, the short 5-6 ish batters!!!!!

I will miss watching him. He looked so good.
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Post by: Seniorplayer on April 12, 2016, 01:00:52 PM
He's an hero to anyone 5ft 6 and under.
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Post by: kaartman on April 12, 2016, 01:11:35 PM
What a shame, he would make a solid middle order bat for ENG in ODIs and tests.
One would think pro's will go through all sorts of medical checks ....I am surprised it took this long for his diagnosis.

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Post by: Seniorplayer on April 12, 2016, 01:20:42 PM
Could be that the problem has only just revealed its self .
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Post by: Aussie In England on April 12, 2016, 01:38:42 PM
First and foremost it's very tragic James Taylor has suffered a life changing illness which has robbed him of his cricketing career. But most importantly it's been found in time for him to have a realistic chance of living a decent life after his surgery. There's nothing more important that staying alive. Wish him the best for his future endeavours.

I'm pretty sure aside from Muamba(which I witnessed on TV and was horrific), I think Beau Carson suffered a similar illness.
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Post by: ppccopener on April 12, 2016, 01:43:37 PM
Could be that the problem has only just revealed its self .

im not any way a medical expert but you are almost certainly right.It's better it's diagnosed now than when the heart is under stress. It's a sad day for JT and his career was only just starting, but depending on how you look at life it could be a blessing..

Fabrice Muamba was only saved because of the medical equipment available at the ground that day, and I believe a doctor was in the ambulance with him who knew what to do....

so........it depends how you look at things, if he collapsed in a Karachi warm up game the treatment he would of needed would not be there.....thankfully that is not a worry...
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Post by: ppccopener on April 12, 2016, 01:44:20 PM
First and foremost it's very tragic James Taylor has suffered a life changing illness which has robbed him of his cricketing career. But most importantly it's been found in time for him to have a realistic chance of living a decent life after his surgery. There's nothing more important that staying alive. Wish him the best for his future endeavours.

I'm pretty sure aside from Muamba(which I witnessed on TV and was horrific), I think Beau Carson suffered a similar illness.

well said Aussie
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Post by: J40BSY on April 12, 2016, 02:04:26 PM
Terrible news for English cricket and for a young talented lad, horrible to hear specially at that young age but on the other hand its important that they've found it as quick as they have
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Post by: tejasapatel on April 12, 2016, 02:40:51 PM
Sad new , he is a talented cricketer and was just about to be a Test regular. Wishing him best for the speedy recovery and life ahead.
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Post by: beaver5 on April 12, 2016, 04:41:14 PM
Gutted! Really enjoyed watching him play and real talent. I think he'd have become an established part of the test and odi team.
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Post by: raza147 on April 12, 2016, 04:53:41 PM
really sad news, wish him all the best in his recovery
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Post by: Cover_Drive on April 13, 2016, 02:41:51 AM
I pray for his recovery. Health certainly comes first.

Deep down, I know it is difficult but I wish he comes back.

Life is so unpredictable!
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Post by: ridhuan on April 13, 2016, 05:37:43 AM
really sad news, as for me always look him as an inspiration, small player that can bat!
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Post by: SOULMAN1012 on April 13, 2016, 05:59:06 AM
Echo what everyone elsa has said was a real talent with the bat and under the lid at short leg, took some stunners and was as brave as anyone in there. 26 is no age to have to retire but also no age to risk your life.
All the best Titch
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Post by: mattcoll12491 on April 14, 2016, 05:52:43 PM
Really good article by Athers

Tragedy that saved more like Taylor
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/18f3c9b8-01a6-11e6-be35-a3e1f14094fe (http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/18f3c9b8-01a6-11e6-be35-a3e1f14094fe)
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Post by: Kulli on April 14, 2016, 06:35:33 PM
Behind a paywall, any chance someone can c and p?
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Post by: mattcoll12491 on April 14, 2016, 08:58:41 PM
"It was late in the afternoon of November 28, 2012, a cold Wednesday afternoon that presaged a hard frost, when a young policeman came knocking at Margaret Hardman’s front door. The news not surprisingly made her hysterical: her son, Tom, she was told, had died in his sleep the night before.

Mother and son had spoken on the phone only the day before. Tom was due to come home at the weekend for a double celebration, his nephew’s first birthday and his own 22nd, which was in five days’ time. As ever, he had sounded fit, full of life and vital: he was one of those types, according to his mum, who loved sport, any sport: football, roller hockey, cricket, anything. “Cricket was his passion though,” she says.

Tom was a promising young Lancashire cricketer with much to look forward to in sport and life. He had played in the county’s academy and second XI and had moved to Leeds Metropolitan University where he played first-class cricket for the university team, had been appointed captain for the following season and was in the process of completing a degree in sports science. Ironically, he loved the fitness sessions, the bleep tests and learning about the science of the body, including the heart.

Gary Yates, now in charge of Lancashire’s academy, but coach of the second XI when Tom played a few games, remembers him as “an excellent lad with a superb attitude” who was “very well liked”. He was a promising all-rounder; a middle-order batsman and seamer. He had played a couple of first-class games, with a top score of 44, and had taken three wickets, including that of Tom Maynard, another young cricketer whose life was cruelly cut short. There was much more to come, for him and the team that dominated the university cricket scene the following season.

Then, from nowhere, tragedy. On the night of November 27 he went to sleep and didn’t wake up. His housemates assumed he had gone out in the morning and didn’t find him until early in the afternoon, hence the late arrival of the policeman to his mum’s home. There was no history of heart trouble, no genetic problem to the family’s knowledge. A post-mortem examination produced no unusual findings with his heart and so his death was put down to SADS (sudden arrhythmic death syndrome). For whatever reason, his heart had simply stopped working one night and that was that. “The electrical current just stopped,” says Mrs Hardman.

When I spoke to Mrs Hardman on Tuesday, hours after the news of James Taylor’s retirement from a heart condition, she was not aware of what had happened to Taylor. Her immediate reaction was to give thanks that Taylor is still alive and relief that the symptoms of the illness, which Taylor experienced during Nottinghamshire’s match against Cambridge last week, led to the kind of testing that is common now among young sportsmen. The loss of a cricket career? Not many people, perhaps, can put that in perspective. Mrs Hardman can.

For many families in bereavement, a sort of solace can be sought in helping others, and the Hardman family have been involved with the charity CRY (Cardiac Risk in the Young) since Tom’s death. There was a memorial fund set up in Tom’s name and a year ago 200 people in the vicinity of his neighbourhood, some with links to Leeds Metropolitan University, Lancashire CCC, friends and family were tested courtesy of that fund. A red flag of sorts was raised with about 20 of those, who then had to go for more scans or tests. “If we can help to save a life or two then that’s something,” Mrs Hardman says. Cricketers of a certain age will look with bemusement at the kind of testing done these days, but cricket has long been aware of its responsibilities in this regard. The ECB, for example, has been testing its players for heart conditions since 2008, although after Taylor’s news it is considering strengthening its provision further for older players. Most are not tested frequently after 21, and Taylor had not been tested for three years.

CRY has been instrumental in pushing counties to test their young players as well, despite the added cost to stretched budgets. Most counties routinely test their academy players (my son, just 14, coincidentally received a letter from Middlesex last week inviting him for testing) and their young contracted cricketers who are under 21 years old get annual testing. It gets less frequent thereafter, although that, too, may change now.

The benefits are obvious from a brief look at CRY’s website, where page after page of young smiling faces stare out at you. Of course, it is only the well known that you get to hear about generally. Miles Frost, for example, David Frost’s son, who collapsed when out jogging and died of hypertrophic cardiomyopathy last year. Sportsmen are three to six times more likely to die if a heart condition goes undiagnosed, because of the extreme pressure put upon the organ, and as people take increasingly to fitness and extreme sports, numbers outside of professional sport are likely to rise.
Testing and screening is vital, then, as Taylor’s predicament this week has emphasised. An interesting case in cricket is that of Calum Haggett, a young cricketer who played with Jos Buttler in the England Under-19 side and at Somerset, who was found to have a heart problem during a routine screening in 2010. He had open-heart surgery and has been able to continue his career, now with Kent. On his shirt, he carries the CRY logo and that of the Ben Daniels Memorial Fund, Ben being one of 12 young people that CRY says die each week because of undetected heart problems.

But even then unexplained tragedies will happen. Sometimes there is neither rhyme nor reason, as the Hardman family know. At least Taylor’s warning came just in time."
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Post by: brokenbat on April 20, 2016, 06:47:55 PM
A young SA cricketer passed away today. Heart failure.
http://www.espncricinfo.com/southafrica/content/story/1001027.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/southafrica/content/story/1001027.html)
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Post by: csnew on May 02, 2016, 12:35:59 PM
Just seen the sky sports interview with Taylor, a must watch! How lucky is he to be alive!