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Title: does this need an X-ray
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on April 20, 2016, 07:56:35 PM
Evening all

Virgin here. As I never talk about cricket and only ever post about sex, it may be a shock to some that I actually leave my Tinder basement to train. 

Anyway, batting in the nets tonight I wore one from a quick on my left thumb, (I'm right handed, so there is no padding there), right on the joint. A little yelp and a dropped bat later I carried on batting, although it wasn't comfortable. When I took my gloves of I found I couldn't straighten my thumb as it was rather bruised and swollen.

Now I'm hoping it's just swollen as a broken thumb now would mean most of the season missed, but what do you guys think? Thanks in advance

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Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: joeljonno on April 20, 2016, 08:02:12 PM
Get it iced up for a couple of hours and see how it goes.
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: GoodLeave on April 20, 2016, 08:03:57 PM
Could have been worse. If it was your right thumb you wouldn't be able to swipe all the lovelies on said Tinder.

Would get that seen to, better off sitting out a season than getting pinned again and doing some serious damage.
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: Tailendfielder on April 20, 2016, 08:08:20 PM
hard to tell, pretty much what mine looked like when I split the end bone in half.
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: JB on April 20, 2016, 08:15:32 PM
You sure this hasn't been caused by some acrobatic self loving????  ;)
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: CrickFreak on April 20, 2016, 08:16:59 PM
How you got hit on left thumb???
Ice and get x-rayed soon. Rest is very important with gentle massage and flexing to reduce swelling.
Could just be a bruise or hairline crack, should be fine in 4-6 weeks if its just a hairline crack.
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: ppccopener on April 20, 2016, 08:18:16 PM
Not even close to being medically qualified(although my wife was a nurse!) had a few of these on the thumb, the pad of the thumb goes really really hard right?

Def an ice job for a couple of hours and it might not be as bad as first thought.
If you can't bend it after that it's bad.

Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on April 20, 2016, 08:21:51 PM
I'm not co-ordinated enough with my left hand for that.  @JB

@CrickFreak I'll admit now i cannot play a short ball to save ny life. It was a ball dug in short, I got in an awful tangle and wore it in the only place I don't have any protection.

I'm annoyed with myself more than anything. All the work I've put into my batting recently and I get injured in a pre season net  :(
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on April 20, 2016, 08:24:01 PM
@ppccopener the whole thing note feels hard rather than fleshy.

The lack of bending is a worry but that may be just the swelling. More concerning is the constant throbbing in the joint since I did it.
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: edge on April 20, 2016, 08:25:20 PM
Hope it's not the wanking hand Virg! Speaking from experience of a lot of broken bones, good rule of thumb (sorry!) is that if it's broken, you'll bloody know about it! So wouldn't worry too much for now, not being sure is a good sign.
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: Woodyspin on April 20, 2016, 08:28:11 PM
@ppccopener the whole thing note feels hard rather than fleshy.

The lack of bending is a worry but that may be just the swelling. More concerning is the constant throbbing in the joint since I did it.

The lack of movement will be due to the swelling, is there discomfort around the area (discounting the bruising and swelling you already have) Also, yes a break and bruising have different pain sensations.
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: JB on April 20, 2016, 08:29:50 PM
Practise more Cam!!
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: Woodyspin on April 20, 2016, 08:30:54 PM
Practise more Cam!!

I we still talking about his batting? Im sure we all get enough practice of the other!
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on April 20, 2016, 08:31:03 PM
@edge lay time I broke a bone in my finger I thought I'd only lifted the nail, and didn't know that is actually shattered the tip of my finger until I went for an X-ray (under instruction) 3 days later because the swelling hadn't gone down.

I don't like admitting that I'm injured, am rather stubborn and apparently have a high pain threshold. Those things aren't a good combination apparently (and they get you told off by the nurse who does X-rays for not going sooner...)
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: Sivlar13 on April 20, 2016, 08:34:29 PM
Might be a compression fracture you big virgin!! Worth a X-ray just for lols but the old frozen mushrooms should do.

N.B. I'm a teacher, not a doctor. It may fall off.
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: Gurujames on April 20, 2016, 08:36:08 PM
Not sure there is anything they can do for a broken thumb anyway. Save yourself a 8 hour wait in a&e and just put it in a splint yourself.
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: edge on April 20, 2016, 08:42:34 PM
@edge lay time I broke a bone in my finger I thought I'd only lifted the nail, and didn't know that is actually shattered the tip of my finger until I went for an X-ray (under instruction) 3 days later because the swelling hadn't gone down.

I don't like admitting that I'm injured, am rather stubborn and apparently have a high pain threshold. Those things aren't a good combination apparently (and they get you told off by the nurse who does X-rays for not going sooner...)
Ah well can't help you much there then. Try breaking a proper bone rather than just thumbs and fingers, then you'll be in no doubt! From what I remember doing fingers they didn't feel that bad I suppose, in the last 5 years I've broken both my legs so my views might have been a little skewed...
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: ppccopener on April 20, 2016, 08:44:27 PM
Ice is the key, I just put the thumb in a pint of ice last time i did this and the next day it felt a lot better

Left thumb always an unprotected area for us non cack handers but generally speaking modern gloves are great, I get hit a lot on the hands for some reason- so I won't moan about the price of decent gloves again ! (After the over 100 quid ones on an earlier thread).

Modern materials used prob have prevented any breaks so note to self-pay up and don't moan.

With a bit of luck it's just brusing you have
 
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: Batbuddy99 on April 20, 2016, 08:45:12 PM
Ah well can't help you much there then. Try breaking a proper bone rather than just thumbs and fingers, then you'll be in no doubt! From what I remember doing fingers they didn't feel that bad I suppose, in the last 5 years I've broken both my legs so my views might have been a little skewed...
Ouch!!!!!🤕🤕🤕
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on April 20, 2016, 08:47:46 PM
Do I have to break things or can I give that a miss?

Re my own stupidity, I once (about 7 years ago) got a ball nailed back that hit me on the temple, I finished my over then went off to see to the bleeding. I then went back out to field. A trip to A&E after the game revealed a concussion and abruised skull
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: Northern monkey on April 20, 2016, 08:48:08 PM
Southern wimp!!
on the plus side Cam, can I use that lovely h4l bat if your not gonna be able to use it?

Joking aside, get it LOOKED at professionally asap
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on April 20, 2016, 08:50:02 PM
Southern wimp!!
on the plus side Cam, can I use that lovely h4l bat if your not gonna be able to use it?

Joking aside, get it LOOKED at professionally asap

Wimp? I carried on batting then had a bowl after I did it!
I'm not as soft as them other southerners you're thinking of  ;)
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: springbok45 on April 20, 2016, 08:51:38 PM
Ice it up, if the throbbing doesn't subside get it checked, thumbs are a little more important to get sorted than other fingers.
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: brokenbat on April 20, 2016, 10:08:32 PM
If its not excruciating pain, its probably not broken. The only other possibility (other than just a bad bruise) is that of a micro fracture - this typically doesn't show up in an x-ray, and you'll need an MRI for that.

Best to give it the R.I.C.E treatment...if no improvement over a week or two, then go the MRI route.
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: Vitas Cricket on April 20, 2016, 10:45:24 PM
I average about one broken/cracked bone in my hands per season. Being a wicket keeper these are usually fingers rather than thumbs, although 2 years ago I did do one of my metacarpals which was a bit more problematic

I've never missed a game because of it. I probably am also a bit stubborn and pain threshold is high, basically unless it's preventing me from getting out of bed I want to play

Thumb wise it's much more important to everyday life compared to say a broken ring finger so I would get it looked at

Most hand injuries there isn't much treatment for really unless it's shattered, requiring surgery etc
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: Kez on April 20, 2016, 11:04:42 PM
Having had a similar bruise on my right thumb courtesy of a rather sharp first class cricketer. Side note: Never agree to be target practice for pros doing bumper practice!

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It's a digit and nothing is out of place so ICE and rest is the order of the day.
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: ppccopener on April 21, 2016, 07:35:03 AM
have you got any improvement overnight Sir Camelot?
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on April 21, 2016, 08:06:15 AM
have you got any improvement overnight Sir Camelot?

Still very sore and very limited movement.
There's a bit of a dull throb still going on, and a shooting pain it I try to extend it, grip something with it or knock it on something. I'm feeling a trip to minor injuries tonight may be in order. :-[
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: OllieWalker39 on April 21, 2016, 08:14:58 AM
I'd get it looked at mate; I did the base of my thumb and ended up in a cast for 6 weeks... - note: casts are fantastic for sympathy from lasses...
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on April 21, 2016, 08:19:42 AM
I'd get it looked at mate; I did the base of my thumb and ended up in a cast for 6 weeks... - note: casts are fantastic for sympathy from lasses...

Already using the "I think I've broken my thumb" routine  ;)
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: TangoWhiskey on April 21, 2016, 08:33:33 AM
Cam, why would you use your thumb to hit the ball when you have spent so much money on bats?!
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: SirScottiod on April 21, 2016, 09:03:28 AM
Already using the "I think I've broken my thumb" routine  ;)

Come on now, back to cricket. Don't wanna bore anyone with that kinda talk!!
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on April 21, 2016, 09:41:35 AM
Cam, why would you use your thumb to hit the ball when you have spent so much money on bats?!

Because I'm sh*t  :(
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: Akewstick on April 21, 2016, 10:21:51 AM
Quote
There's a bit of a dull throb still going on, and a shooting pain it I try to extend it, grip something with it or knock it on something.

I'm not a doctor but being (No Swearing Please) at cricket and falling off motorbikes, I've broken stuff, and I've thought I've broken stuff and turns out it wasn't, and this sounds like one of the times when it really was broken. But yeah, I don't actually know what I'm on about.
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: HallamKeeper on April 21, 2016, 11:56:22 AM
I did both my thumbs like that a few years ago, don't worry, only took 4 months to get back to normal size but it didn't stop me playing. Not because I'm northern but the pain wasn't that bad after I got the swelling down a bit.

Can the hospital do anything for breaks/cracks in the fingers and thumbs? I know some people have a cast when it is the knuckle closest to the hand on the thumb but unless it is dislocated don't you just rest it? I was unsure if I broke the end of my ring finger keeping a few weeks ago, wasn't a ligament type pain. Anyway, after two weeks of rubbing ibuprofen gel and arnica into it (not at the same time), I think I'll be OK for the weekend.
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on April 21, 2016, 12:14:54 PM
It's gone some nice colours and is still swollen.
I can't bend it still and the whole thumb feels hard, definitely off to minor injuries tonight to see if I've broken it out not. Looking unlikely I'll play Saturday though  :(

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Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: Sivlar13 on April 21, 2016, 12:42:10 PM
They are some groovy colours that is for sure, looks gnarly!! Saturday's not completely lost - just pick up a beer with the other hand, job done!!
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: edge on April 21, 2016, 01:49:16 PM
Looking unlikely I'll play Saturday though  :(

Man up and Malcy Marshall it, come on! You're always telling us how your batting is very bottom handed anyway ha.
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Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on April 22, 2016, 11:41:09 AM
For anyone who cares, or enjoys my misfortune...

It's a break! Minimum 4 weeks of no cricket and I get to wear this snazzy thing

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Can you see where it's damaged?

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Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: Kulli on April 22, 2016, 11:46:46 AM
Not gonna lie, I'd still be playing, just get them to hide you in the field ;)
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: SirScottiod on April 22, 2016, 12:03:55 PM
O poo, that's not what you wanna see on the eve of the new season!!

(cant see anything myself mind you :) )
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: smilley792 on April 22, 2016, 12:07:44 PM
Good job it's your left hand, Atleast you can still........ Wait better not upset a certain member!
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: Bats_Galore on April 22, 2016, 12:19:48 PM
That is incredibly bad luck. I wouldn't wish that on anyone. If it were me I wouldn't risk playing, not worth risking it getting it hit again and causing long term damage. I do hope it recovers quicker than anticipated.
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: Nothing2SeeHere on April 22, 2016, 12:33:02 PM
Rotten luck! Maybe get a cheap left handed batting glove for the injured hand for additional protection?
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: FattusCattus on April 22, 2016, 12:35:13 PM
Oh look - a wankmitt!  Will you be getting it signed?
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: anony on April 22, 2016, 12:49:09 PM
I wouldn't describe that dressing gown as snazzy tbh
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: Seniorplayer on April 22, 2016, 01:36:20 PM
It's gone some nice colours and is still swollen.
I can't bend it still and the whole thumb feels hard, definitely off to minor injuries tonight to see if I've broken it out not. Looking unlikely I'll play Saturday though  :(

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Huh when I was your age I'd run a broken leg off.
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on April 22, 2016, 02:07:33 PM
Huh when I was your age I'd run a broken leg off.

Cheers Mr Macho.
Really constructive when I've been medically advised not to play for at least 4 weeks...
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: thecord on April 22, 2016, 02:25:15 PM
Hard luck with that mate,I've had a lot of problems with my digits and don't believe it's worth risking going against doctors orders unless you're prepared to risk serious issues with it as you get older.
Good luck with the recovery
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: Northern monkey on April 22, 2016, 03:23:01 PM
Ah mate that's a proper shi##er!
4 weeks will soon go tho, and the weathers crap anyway, so most games are gonna be off.

Glad you went and got it looked at eventually
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: TangoWhiskey on April 22, 2016, 03:37:44 PM
Ah sorry to hear Cam. At least you can spend the four weekends getting into kit shops and grabbing the best bats while the rest of us are too busy playing!
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: ppccopener on April 22, 2016, 03:51:39 PM
Yes a bit unlucky that cameister my eyes are going but if your glass in generally half full in life it could of been worse, hopefully it heals up a bit quick and it turns out a max of  4 weeks  not a min

You will know better than I but gloves wise does every make all have the same level of protection on the left thumb? Just looking at an old pair of gloves I have and there not much there...but in the past I'm sure I've had some padding on the left thumb.
Might be worth looking into while you count down the days to playing

I wouldn't risk playing really until it's healed up but I would certainly be looking to tape it up and get back out there in the minimum time I could-not obviously against any medical advise

I've played with a few fractures in the past but it's better safe than sorry...
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: tim2000s on April 22, 2016, 04:00:02 PM
Yes a bit unlucky that cameister my eyes are going but if your glass in generally half full in life it could of been worse, hopefully it heals up a bit quick and it turns out a max of  4 weeks  not a min

You will know better than I but gloves wise does every make all have the same level of protection on the left thumb? Just looking at an old pair of gloves I have and there not much there...but in the past I'm sure I've had some padding on the left thumb.
Might be worth looking into while you count down the days to playing

I wouldn't risk playing really until it's healed up but I would certainly be looking to tape it up and get back out there in the minimum time I could-not obviously against any medical advise

I've played with a few fractures in the past but it's better safe than sorry...
If you want padding on the left thumb wear a left handed left hand.
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: Chalkie on April 22, 2016, 04:54:38 PM
That's bad luck Cam. Best to do as doc advises and rest it.

As someone else said the first few weeks will be cold and wet, and looking on the bright side it gives you a chance to squeeze in some extra fitness training 😉
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: Seniorplayer on April 23, 2016, 09:09:49 AM
Cheers Mr Macho.
Really constructive when I've been medically advised not to play for at least 4 weeks...

Sorry if I came over as macho doctor as told me that i am not fit to play but sometimes If we want to play we need to be more robust swallow the pain killers and just get on with it.
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on April 23, 2016, 09:24:15 AM
Sorry if I came over as macho doctor as told me that i am not fit to play but sometimes we need to be more robust swallow the pain killers and just get on with it.

You say we need to be more robust, swallow pain killers and get on with it. I played the whole of last season with a fudged elbow and my shoulder want great for the 2nd half, but I played anyway.

Normally I play through anything that doesn't prevent me from walking, but with a family history of arthritis on both sides and the injury being at the joint I thought it best to get this checked. Good thing I did as I'm seeing the specialist Monday to decide if I need surgery or not...

As I'm almost certain to have issues with my joints later in life anyway, it's not worth the risk to my mind. 4 weeks (possibly more) of no cricket now to allow it to heal properly may seem like a long time, but all things considered I'll take the hit now to hopefully prevent the early onset of other problems in pretty much certain to get.

Some of you will still think I'm being a poof, but in the grand scheme of things I'd like to think I've made the right decision for the right reasons.
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: Seniorplayer on April 23, 2016, 10:08:48 AM
Your right Cam to do what you feel is best for you but with regard to artheriitis any cricketer that's had a lengthy career  later in life usually suffer with some  artheritis in there fingers wrists and knees.
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on April 25, 2016, 12:53:10 PM
Update on this after seeing the specialist today.
As well as the break there is some nerve damage, so 6 weeks of no cricket! :(

I have a splint to leave on constantly for 2 weeks, then only overnight for a further week after that.
After three weeks of it being splinted I have to start manipulating the joint (which is going to be stiff) so it starts moving freely again.

The earliest weekend I can target my return is 4th June, with my birthday being the following Saturday thay would be a rather nice early present.
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: CrickFreak on April 26, 2016, 03:43:50 AM
Sorry to hear that mate. I tore my ACL 5 yrs ago second game of the season. So i can understand how you feel. Scoring and pinting is all i did that summer.
Stay positive, this is minor. Maybe in few weeks you will be able to grip the bat and play.
Every human body is different, you might recover faster. Use your own judgement. If you start sooner, just stay away from the high traffic area on the field :) dont want to get hit again while its still healing.
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: Seniorplayer on April 26, 2016, 09:50:13 AM
Had a simular  injury and treatment after healing left with a glass finger and no feeling in the end of finger
Title: Re: does this need an X-ray
Post by: trypewriter on April 26, 2016, 10:17:37 AM
The plus points, you get to wear that funky support, so all your mates get to ask you if your hawk has flown away.

The minus points, if you do get arthritis later it will definitely strike in all those places where you had knocks etc. - including all of those that you thought at the time you had got away with - 'not a break, maybe a bit of bruising, I'll play through it' you know the ones.

Definitely give it time to heal as it will minimise the effects later in life.