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Equipment => Bats => Reviews => Topic started by: mrazvi on April 27, 2016, 10:29:17 PM
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So took a Carbine and a Warbird to their first nets yesterday. Both are G1 or higher.
Wabird is about 2.10.5 or so fully dressed, Carbine is 2.12 dressed. Y'all know the profiles and shapes of these fully well.
Carbine won hands down in terms of response and feel and hasn't even been knocked in fully yet. Very weird response from the Warbird. Significant vibration in the handle and shock to the hands.
Again, this is very subjective and very early days for the bats in question.
Will need to knock-in the Warbird further and apply another grip - the handle is very thin. Whereas the Carbine has double grips and felt great and rebound was excellent.
Will post some pics and details of how things progress with these two... Any comments or feedback on why this could happen on the highly rated H4L?
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Seen a couple of these recently about h4l. Matts obviously making cracking bats at the moment but give them time amd plenty of preperation, they arent always going to be guns straight from the word go.
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Maybe the warbirds handle needs breaking in.
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Here are some photos of the said bats...and yes handle certainly needs break in.
(http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s510/razvimir/IMG_20160427_184049_zpsd7dxonq0.jpg) (http://s1055.photobucket.com/user/razvimir/media/IMG_20160427_184049_zpsd7dxonq0.jpg.html)
(http://i1055.photobucket.com/albums/s510/razvimir/IMG_20160427_184313_zps8banhyqf.jpg) (http://s1055.photobucket.com/user/razvimir/media/IMG_20160427_184313_zps8banhyqf.jpg.html)
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might sound like a silly question, but how would you break a handle in, i have a laver with a slightly stiff handle
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I think that would be a natural process and would depend On how tightly bound the handle was..some bats have flex at the outset and some do not. Playing long enuff would give you flex in the handle ..I'm sure there are a lot of handle experts in the forum who have other techniques and opinions.
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Will need to knock-in the Warbird further and apply another grip - the handle is very thin. Whereas the Carbine has double grips and felt great and rebound was excellent.
This explains lack of vibration in your Carbine. At minimum a grip could weigh 0.5-0.8 of an ounce or even more.
I put two grips on my bats to eliminate "vibration" or shock.
Try putting a second grip on your Warbird and take it to nets again. Let us know how it goes. :)
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might sound like a silly question, but how would you break a handle in, i have a laver with a slightly stiff handle
Lavers have stiff handles which helps with the rebound. I prefer stiff handles and don't whippy handles.
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might sound like a silly question, but how would you break a handle in, i have a laver with a slightly stiff handle
Some guys stand on the handle pusing in slightly to "break in" the handle. I tried it ever so slightly on my SCat (on others advice for SCats) which had bo effect on that thick handle, but I never had heart enough to try aggressively.
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Lavers have stiff handles which helps with the rebound. I prefer stiff handles and don't whippy handles.
yea i guess so, still getting used to the handle but im sure it will fly once its fully knocked in
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Some guys stand on the handle pusing in slightly to "break in" the handle. I tried it ever so slightly on my SCat (on others advice for SCats) which had bo effect on that thick handle, but I never had heart enough to try aggressively.
dont think i have the heart to do that either, im so clumsy ill end up snapping the bat lol
@mrazvi those are 2 stunning bats btw, im sure they'll score u plenty runs
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Yup, the handle on Warbirds are thin, I've double-gripped both of mine and they are fine - no vibration at all. I guess it also depends on how well they are knocked in.
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dont think i have the heart to do that either, im so clumsy ill end up snapping the bat lol
@mrazvi those are 2 stunning bats btw, im sure they'll score u plenty runs
I think Mike hussey used to stand on his handles to loosen them I always remove the binding from where I grip the bat then and tape the handles where the binding was find it gives me a better feel.
But that said the stiffest of handles will loosen over time.
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I only do this when I'm half cut as I'm not brave enough to do it sober...
I'll put the end of the bat handle on the bottom step, and the toe on the bat on the floor. I'll then put my heel in the middle and bounce the bat up and down so the handle flexes.
Not had a handle go yet, and I'm a right fatty and haven't managed to snap one by standing on it (yet) lol
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I wouldn't judge a bat until you have used it for most of the season. Some bats take longer to play in than others.
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@uknsaunders - Isn't that a catch-22. How can you play with a bat that is not performing at peak through the season when others are? Unless you meant to keep playing in the nets with it until it performs or you just give up on it.
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@uknsaunders - Isn't that a catch-22. How can you play with a bat that is not performing at peak through the season when others are? Unless you meant to keep playing in the nets with it until it performs or you just give up on it.
I'd be inclined to give it some mallet loving and use it in nets (and for any catching practice etc.) so you're hitting balls with it. That gives it the best chance of coming good.
Alternatively you could put it away for a year. I've heard a few on here talk of putting a plank away, picking it up the following season and its a gun.
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Thanks for all the advice and assurance. It is quite ironic that my implulse eBay buys are performing much better than my most expensive buy from a well known retailer
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Get them properly knocked in, then a few sessions with the bowling machine - bingo, ready to go!
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My B3 handle is fairly thin, first time I used it against the bowling machine it almost took my hands off. Had soreness and bruising around the muscle between my forefinger/thumb on my bottom hand for a week.
It's fine now!
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Thanks for all the advice and assurance. It is quite ironic that my implulse eBay buys are performing much better than my most expensive buy from a well known retailer
Not this again. Firstly you haven't given the bat a chance, you haven't set it up like the other bat, (in terms of the grips) you have prepared it properly in terms of knocking in and playing in, and then you bound in making complaints and suggestive comments similar to another thread suggesting in some way the bat isn't correct and you have done all this in a public arena before talking to the bat maker. Firstly prepare your bat properly, then set them up all the same and if something isn't as you would expect speak to the maker privately rather than having a public discussion about a well regarded maker.
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Okay, I was not suggesting that this bat is in any way inferior or would not perform. I am sure it will given time and the right setup(grips etc). Also, I had indicated that this is a subjective opinion of one instance of net practice in my original post. It has no bearing on quality or future performance of the said blade. No malice or complaint was intended.
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Not this again. Firstly you haven't given the bat a chance, you haven't set it up like the other bat, (in terms of the grips) you have prepared it properly in terms of knocking in and playing in, and then you bound in making complaints and suggestive comments similar to another thread suggesting in some way the bat isn't correct and you have done all this in a public arena before talking to the bat maker. Firstly prepare your bat properly, then set them up all the same and if something isn't as you would expect speak to the maker privately rather than having a public discussion about a well regarded maker.
I think you have just read between the lines a bit too much
He hasn't at any time said one is rubbish, he was just, as he said, giving a subjective opinion, which is perfectly allowed
Please don't see any malice in this, the forum doesn't need another argument. I'm just standing up for the original poster here