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Title: Storm Damaged Clefts
Post by: GDP1964 on May 13, 2016, 07:15:07 PM
Question 1) B&S South Africa have advised that they have 25 Grade 1 Clefts which in there opion are Storm Damaged . If I was to get them made into bats and sent over would there be any interest at £80.00 these would be Blank with fitted Scuuf Sheet and obviously no WARRANTY will apply they could see the season out and longer or they could snap on your first hit .


Question 2) By offering this do you the End User feel it's a cheek to offer a Product we feel could be inferior to our Normal Product even though you have been fore warned and in your opion will it make you think twice about  buying future B&S Kit
Title: Re: Storm Damaged Clefts
Post by: Buzz on May 13, 2016, 07:20:31 PM
I think there will be a demand off this, but I would encourage you to ask for written confirmation that the buyer understands there is not warranty and the bat may break with its first hit, with no recourse for a refund.
Title: Re: Storm Damaged Clefts
Post by: jd163 on May 13, 2016, 07:23:06 PM
It is a fair offer IMO. Paul Aldred is doing something similar too for 75 GBP. I am interested to get one in Scorch profile :-)
Title: Re: Storm Damaged Clefts
Post by: smilley792 on May 13, 2016, 07:23:22 PM
Anyone with common sense and morals would buy and then take it on the chin if/when it breaks.



Idiots, and chancers wanting to get something for free(while probably killing someone's rep) will moan and slag you off on all social media formats until something is done to quiet them.


id say choose who you sell to wisely.





Me I buy for stickers, so the fact there blank means I won't buy.
Title: Re: Storm Damaged Clefts
Post by: Sivlar13 on May 13, 2016, 07:23:44 PM
I'll happily take one off your hands Gary mate!! Scorch or a Supreme would be ledge!!
Title: Re: Storm Damaged Clefts
Post by: Joshthesmall on May 13, 2016, 07:24:26 PM
Will it affect performance in any way? If not you can count me in.   
Title: Re: Storm Damaged Clefts
Post by: Manormanic on May 13, 2016, 07:26:44 PM
I reckon I'd take a couple, just to try different shapes.
Title: Re: Storm Damaged Clefts
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on May 13, 2016, 07:33:51 PM
Will it affect performance in any way? If not you can count me in.

Not until it does a Carberry lol  ;)
Title: Re: Storm Damaged Clefts
Post by: edge on May 13, 2016, 07:46:22 PM
Teammate of mine bought one recently, snapped in half in its' first net... Not worth it for me, as a seller I'd definitely be making sure they understood the breakage risk.
Title: Re: Storm Damaged Clefts
Post by: Jaffa on May 13, 2016, 07:47:07 PM
I would almost say you could sell all of them on here.
Title: Re: Storm Damaged Clefts
Post by: simonmay5 on May 13, 2016, 07:55:08 PM
All depends on how bad the storm damage is some of the mh ones I seen have been a joke but if you know what your buying I think it's fine
Title: Re: Storm Damaged Clefts
Post by: GDP1964 on May 13, 2016, 08:02:30 PM
I've had one sent over and took it too vitas Today Robin ,myself and Uli hit about 50 balls each we all agreed it felt good and showed no sign of damage or cracking . Buzz the terms and conditions will be made very clear to any perspective buyer . Two shapes will be available Scorch and Tendulkar any takers send me a message and I will follow it up from there
Title: Re: Storm Damaged Clefts
Post by: procricket on May 20, 2016, 09:19:20 PM
I would get one Gary my mate been using one for two seasons and 200 runs later no issue what so ever...
Title: Re: Storm Damaged Clefts
Post by: Bats_Galore on May 20, 2016, 09:49:01 PM
Seems more than reasonable to me, but having seen some customer reactions on the forum, might be wise to have the customer sign an agreement outlining acceptance of risk. But I would certainly be interested.
Title: Re: Storm Damaged Clefts
Post by: joeljonno on May 20, 2016, 10:08:05 PM
I don't think a signature is needed, just an acknowledgement email or PM would be enough, just something that confirms they know.

£80 is a lot of money on a gamble, but I'd pay that for a 2nd hand bat on eBay so would be willing to potentially have one as a spare/wet weather bat.  Gives me the opportunity to try out a B&S without throwing too much money at it until I'm sure I like it.  Then could get one made/bought to a similar spec.
Title: Re: Storm Damaged Clefts
Post by: GDP1964 on May 20, 2016, 10:31:23 PM
I have requested 10 supreme 10 Scorch for those that have shown interest I will be in touch when they are here we can sort out warranty on purchase
Title: Re: Storm Damaged Clefts
Post by: The Palmist on May 21, 2016, 08:45:45 AM
It is better to lose the clefts than risk your reputation  for little gain. I would rather sell the clefts to hobby bat makers to practice  their skills on or donate to a school club than sell.

That said if you have historical  stats like you sold 100 damaged bats and only 3 broke, it may make me think  again.

You should give some warranty, even if it is a reduced  2 week warranty, buy as seen is better suited  to dodgy bay and scamtree.
Title: Re: Storm Damaged Clefts
Post by: ppccopener on May 21, 2016, 09:18:29 AM
I think B & S should get a bit of a pat on the back here, everything is upfront and I'm sure will be explained on purchase. There's others that sell storm damaged bats at double or triple the intial prices mentioned on here.

Yes it's a lottery whether the bat will last but I like the upfront method and a price of a tank of petrol you may get one that last a season.

If you're willing to take a gamble these could be good buys. I've had three storm damaged bats myself, one was still going after 2 seasons, two broke during the season.

I don't have my name down for one but personal ally I think it's worth a chance
Title: Re: Storm Damaged Clefts
Post by: GDP1964 on May 21, 2016, 10:15:23 AM
It is better to lose the clefts than risk your reputation  for little gain. I would rather sell the clefts to hobby bat makers to practice  their skills on or donate to a school club than sell.

That said if you have historical  stats like you sold 100 damaged bats and only 3 broke, it may make me think  again.

You should give some warranty, even if it is a reduced  2 week warranty, buy as seen is better suited  to dodgy bay and scamtree.
we have no historical quotes at all first time we have thought of offering this
Title: Re: Storm Damaged Clefts
Post by: Mel Jessop on May 21, 2016, 10:24:03 AM
I think this is probably a difficult one Garry, I see there points about reputation etc,  but you are being very upfront about it all, my thoughts are are, if you sell them all within this forum, then everyone has an idea of what the pit falls are of buying this type of willow and there will be no come back or loss of rep at all.

Oh and I would buy a couple of those cleats handled and pressed to practice making a bat?

On a side note do you do any grade 3/4 bats?

Mel.
Title: Re: Storm Damaged Clefts
Post by: The Palmist on May 21, 2016, 10:28:22 AM
If all 80 sell on here it will be a very good for feedback, you cannot get a better focus group.

Personally I will never buy one knowingly.

OLS vs Forum Storm Damage offering  could be a good idea for a Poll, perhaps  in a separate  thread.
Title: Re: Storm Damaged Clefts
Post by: springbok45 on May 21, 2016, 11:46:20 AM
I'd be happy to take a couple of handed and pressed clefts if that became an option.
Title: Re: Storm Damaged Clefts
Post by: Jaffa on May 21, 2016, 12:42:56 PM
I think though the labeling has to be indicating that it is what it is.

H4L have their Devil range so you know you're getting something for whatever reason doesn't qualify as a normal grade. Mine was a Butterfly Devil. So nothing to do with performance. Think a few have also had pressing cracks. While with M&H (as far as I'm aware) you couldn't see that it was storm damaged. If if gets sold on as a normal bat the only guy who's gaining is the reseller making a quick buck.

It is a minefield.
Title: Re: Storm Damaged Clefts
Post by: SOULMAN1012 on May 21, 2016, 05:50:06 PM
I'll have a supreme shaped one please Garry for T20 save my LE one
Title: Re: Storm Damaged Clefts
Post by: norman1979 on May 24, 2016, 08:53:59 PM
I wouldn't mind a Supreme. How do I go about getting my hands on one?
Title: Re: Storm Damaged Clefts
Post by: plumb111 on May 26, 2016, 08:35:51 AM
Are any of these still available? Please drop me a PM

Title: Re: Storm Damaged Clefts
Post by: norman1979 on May 26, 2016, 08:36:22 AM
Me too please :)
Title: Re: Storm Damaged Clefts
Post by: GDP1964 on May 26, 2016, 11:11:09 AM
As soon as they come in I will keep you guys informed