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General Cricket => Latest Matches => Topic started by: smokingdavo on January 06, 2010, 10:58:04 AM
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That was a debacle. How did you lose from there?
Im an Aussie, and it was great to win, a great comeback, but really they did nothing special to win that game. A Game where of the first 7 sessions, Australia had won one (the first session on day 3) and Pakistan had won 6. Of the 3 days, Pakistan were well ahead. THen on day 4 they lied down. It started from the begining when they put as many back on the boundary as they could and never attacked Australia, while Akmal dropped 4 catches. Then chasing a mediocre 175, they lied down.
Pakistan were 0/30 chasing 175 on a reasonable tame deck. At least six of those dismissals were just bizzare, and showed no value for there wicket.
The shot from Farhat at the start was bewildering. Why take on mid off when you are cruising?, and Faisal tried it a few balls later??? Misbah and Yousuf just showed no patience, and with the game on the line Umar Akmal tries to take on mid off??. The last four wickets pretty much were handed to australia...the tail bats with no pride at it all, with the exception of Sami, who was also the only quick bowler who really charged in on day 4. Its as if there tail enders and they woudlnt care if they failed. One of the most important things in cricket these days is the ability of ur tail, not always to score runs, but to put in. I think thats one thing England can claim has made some difference in the last few years, the fight from Broad, Anderson and Swann, and even Panesar and Onions try to at least hang around.
Just a bizarre day.
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Mate I went to the first day and thought " there is no way Pakistan should lose this" but I lent over to my brother and said " Pakistan will let this slip"....... Only the aussies have the killer instinct to get ahead and obliterate the opposition....... The pakistanis took their foots off and batted disgustingly.
It's all on the batsmen. Sami Asif and Gul did really well. It's frustrating that teams come to Australia and crumble. I was shaking my head at the field positioning when Hussey was batting this arvo......pathetic. Kamran dropping 4 catches?
Misbah needs to take on more responsibility he might as well be a bunny. He needs to know how to bat in the middle order.
I was screaming and swearing at the telly this afternoon. What an awesome match it would be to win. Umar Akmal was the only positive batsmen his seniors should be setting an example (it doesn't excuse his shot though he should have guided the tail)
What other way is a team going to beat the aussies? Get them to bowl underarm? If you don't capitalise on such a sh@t decision by Punter I don't know where you learn your cricket. Why do teams fall over? Not by the might of Warne or McGrath..... Can't use that excuse anymore.
Absolute $h/t cricket.
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Could it be a betting scandal?
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Could it be a betting scandal?
I think so....
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I hope no players or coaches get injured as an outcome of this either in Aus or when they go back home.. Pak and India cricket fans tend to take the sport a bit too seriously..
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People are only suggesting a betting scandal because it's Pakistan - if this was England we would just accept that our team did awfully and take it as a shocking loss - i think people are a bit quick to jump to conclusions. Yesterday i heard a short interview with Watson - he said we can put on another hundred or so runs and bowl them out cheaply - which they did, i think their mental attitude played a significant part in their victory - not the wallets of the pakistani players.
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I hope no players or coaches get injured as an outcome of this either in Aus or when they go back home.. Pak and India cricket fans tend to take the sport a bit too seriously..
After the WC in 2007 Dhoni's house was the location of a protest by fans!
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http://www.cricinfo.com/ausvpak09/content/current/story/442736.html (http://www.cricinfo.com/ausvpak09/content/current/story/442736.html)
Interesting article..
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After the WC in 2007 Dhoni's house was the location of a protest by fans!
If i recall correctly they tried to burn it down not just protest..
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was watching some highlights earlier and the commentater outlined a good point that Pakistan are now a test side not used to getting into positions to win a test match.
So a reason of that loss will be a mental thing...
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Very strange game i thought. As you say they were cruising at 50-1. I would say that there was no terrific delivery but there was a game changing catch by Nathan Hauritz, fine fine catch. But you really have to question the thinking about the Pakistanis shot selection, bar Umar Akmal who i would say is inexperienced at that level therefore you can virtually discount his shot- no matter how ludicrous it was. As the commentary side said at the time Yousuf was playing Hauritz so well and yet almost gave his wicket away. You do really wonder if Pakistan will be a consistent test winning nation again with performances such as this. Give credit to australia where its due though, they caught all of there catches, Ponting i thought led the side on the 5th day well and kept his head well.
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Pakistan lost due to their gung-ho approach to chasing down their target. What on Earth was Farhat doing trying to clear mid off when there was no need, 34-0 off 6.5 overs.
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We rolled em good.
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That was a debacle. How did you lose from there?
Im an Aussie, and it was great to win, a great comeback, but really they did nothing special to win that game. A Game where of the first 7 sessions, Australia had won one (the first session on day 3) and Pakistan had won 6. Of the 3 days, Pakistan were well ahead. THen on day 4 they lied down. It started from the begining when they put as many back on the boundary as they could and never attacked Australia, while Akmal dropped 4 catches. Then chasing a mediocre 175, they lied down.
Pakistan were 0/30 chasing 175 on a reasonable tame deck. At least six of those dismissals were just bizzare, and showed no value for there wicket.
The shot from Farhat at the start was bewildering. Why take on mid off when you are cruising?, and Faisal tried it a few balls later??? Misbah and Yousuf just showed no patience, and with the game on the line Umar Akmal tries to take on mid off??. The last four wickets pretty much were handed to australia...the tail bats with no pride at it all, with the exception of Sami, who was also the only quick bowler who really charged in on day 4. Its as if there tail enders and they woudlnt care if they failed. One of the most important things in cricket these days is the ability of ur tail, not always to score runs, but to put in. I think thats one thing England can claim has made some difference in the last few years, the fight from Broad, Anderson and Swann, and even Panesar and Onions try to at least hang around.
Just a bizarre day.
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I was there and I can tell you right now that that was no tame deck!
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Some bloke put $20,000+ on Pakistan to Win paying $1.06
Also, at the beginning of Day 4 there were quite a few punters betting on a Draw?
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The TAB place was full.
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The Pakistan Keeper had a bit of a shocker. And he's paid the price in being dropped.
At Test Level maybe you need to be able take those catches - imagine how much different the game would have unfolded
(and the ramifications on the match result) if the Pakistan Keeper had taken those catches. Probably a Pakistan Win.
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The Pakistan Keeper had a bit of a shocker. And he's paid the price in being dropped.
At Test Level maybe you need to be able take those catches - imagine how much different the game would have unfolded
(and the ramifications on the match result) if the Pakistan Keeper had taken those catches. Probably a Pakistan Win.
His names Kamran Akmal
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aamer has just put down a sitter off ponting on 0 at deep sq leg. absolutely shocking... makes me a bit angry if im honest since ive stayed up to watch test cricket and watch 'the best players in the world' ply their trade.
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ponting to get a ton after being dropped?? there are talks of him moving down the order for the rest of his career.......
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as an englishman i would be happy to see ponting move in to mid-order obscurity looking ahead to the ashes this year!
in pure cricketing terms, ponting has just had a bad patch and im sure he will bounce back, maybe even today where hes playing on his homeground and been dropped on 0, maybe its just whats meant to be.
im off to bed now watsons out, hes the guy i stayed up to watch
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I think Ponting and Clarke shut up those who said they were done.
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i called it :)
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I think Ponting and Clarke shut up those who said they were done.
sorry mate but one performance won't do much if they continue to get single figures for the next 20 innings
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Clarke is ascending to his rightful place as one of the worlds best batsmen, whereas i believe Ponting is on the descent from that bracket of players.......mind you, pretty fragile pakistani side and playing at home - i wouldnt expect anything but a whitewash to be honest for the aussies.
Out of interest, anyone know when India is touring England next - be interesting to see how they get on away from those road like tracks.
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I think Ponting and Clarke shut up those who said they were done.
Ponting's average in tests is declining very rapidly. There was a table shown yesterday during the test which showed how Ricky's performance and averages have declines since 2005 or 2006..... quite a drastic fall. But as we all know he is a calss player but on the wrong side of 30's (age).
He seems to have lost his technique and confidence on the pull and hook after being struck on the elbow during the WI series.... but keeps playing it just to prove a point which has now become his greatest weakness or nemesis..... lucky to be dropped on 0 again....
The commentator did mention that he is playing more on instinct now as he is not watching the ball for as long as he used to do earlier. Earlier he would follow the ball fright from the bowlers hands but now it's just before pitching.....
Clarke is a good batsman, but he too isn't doing too well either..... but has time to get his act together as age is on his side....
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agree, India outside of the sub-continent will be fun to watch.. I think the youngsters will have big issues... I hope they don't but have a feeling they will..
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Out of interest, anyone know when India is touring England next - be interesting to see how they get on away from those road like tracks.
I don't get your obsession with India and their pitches. I mean if the pitches are so flat, how comes India keeps winning the Test Matches and Test Series? Do the pitches only stay flat when India are batting? Then suddenly turn unplayable when the opposition bats?
As for the question you asked, India will be in England in 2011, and are scheduled to play 4 Tests(Lords, Trent Bridge, Edgbaston and The Oval).
And as in 2007, India out bowled England in seaming conditions, don't see why that can't happen again in 2011.
I'm pretty sure India will win the series, I mean England haven't beaten India in over 20 years.
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nah, england will be just fine, as long as the likes of bhajji keep on getting in
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What's wrong with Harbhajan? 300+ Test Wickets, seems pretty handy to me.
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What's wrong with Harbhajan? 300+ Test Wickets, seems pretty handy to me.
He is superb, one of the best around
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Good on Ponting (209) and clarke (166), really stuck it to the Pakistan team!
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Good on Ponting (209) and clarke (166), really stuck it to the Pakistan team!
that life on 0 kinda diminishes his score......
Esp after 12+ innings of poor scores
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I really like the look of Salman Butts kit.....looks awesome, might have to acquire some.
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that life on 0 kinda diminishes his score......
Esp after 12+ innings of poor scores
So if you were given one life do you think you could go out and make 209?
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So if you were given one life do you think you could go out and make 209?
If I was given 12 innings against 2 of the bottom teir countries....nah mate I'd get 309.....jks it just took a long time to get a big score.... Pakistan and Windies shoulnt be too much of a problem of Pontings caliber.