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Title: Discuss
Post by: kenbriooo on May 21, 2016, 07:52:55 PM
Two questions....

Are bibs in a warm up ever acceptable before a game?
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And which forum member (who got me caught out by another forum member) looks great in a bib when tossing up?

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I would also like to say that unnamed forum members were unlucky not to get a deserved win due to rain killing the game.
Title: Re: Discuss
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on May 21, 2016, 07:58:33 PM
Why aren't bibs for a warmup acceptable?
Without them nobody could do a Balotelli impression trying to put it on each week, and we wouldn't have a clue what the teams are in the hand hockey game!
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Post by: kenbriooo on May 21, 2016, 08:05:07 PM
All joking aside it is good to see teams actually warming up and trying to get the most out of their Saturday afternoons. Think many teams along with my own could learn a lesson or two by following the example set
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Post by: WalkingWicket37 on May 21, 2016, 08:12:56 PM
All joking aside it is good to see teams actually warming up and trying to get the most out of their Saturday afternoons. Think many teams along with my own could learn a lesson or two by following the example set

Yes and no as far as warming up goes.

A couple of season ago the skipper made the decision to drop the warm up routine halfway through the season, and resort to doing a jog round the pitch while throwing a ball to each other. Our warmups were so sh*t (dropped catches, throws nowhere near the keeper etc.) they were only lowering our confidence and giving the opposition a good laugh pre match! The jog round got us warm and everyone took a couple of catches to get their hands going.

I personally like to bowl a few deliveries on the practice strip before the game, and take a few catches off the cradle with a team mmate, but what works for one person doesn't work for everyone. We had a guy last season who would roll up a fag and smoke that while watching us go for our jog, he did alright opening the bowling every week...
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Post by: Gurujames on May 21, 2016, 08:22:30 PM
We never warm up. Interestingly as an adult I have never stretched before physical exercise and I have never pulled a muscle. As a teenager we did and I sometimes pulled muscles. Young kids in the park do loads of running about, they never stretch and they never pull a muscle.
Additionally, the warm up is a bit pointless if you bat first.
We were in the semis of our T20 competition, it was due to start at 11.00am. The opposition got there at 9.30 they did a load of warm ups and fielding drills. We turned up at 10.45. Ok we lost but only by 4 runs and they were 2 divisions higher than us.
Warm ups, a pointless waste of energy.
Title: Re: Discuss
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on May 21, 2016, 08:24:02 PM
Looks like nick as skipper, meaning you were caught by Alex, redders or Maverick...
Title: Re: Discuss
Post by: kenbriooo on May 21, 2016, 08:24:42 PM
I think part of the problem we face in our league is that you toss up 15 mins before the start so it doesn't leave much time to warm up. The risk you face is warming up then sitting down while you bat potentially wasting the warm up.
Title: Re: Discuss
Post by: kenbriooo on May 21, 2016, 08:26:23 PM
Looks like nick as skipper, meaning you were caught by Alex, redders or Maverick...

Very good, it is indeed @uknsaunders who got me today and was the skipper looking good in orange.
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Post by: WalkingWicket37 on May 21, 2016, 08:29:27 PM
Very good, it is indeed @uknsaunders who got me today and was the skipper looking good in orange.

Does that mean @19reading87 has been stripped of the captaincy?  :o
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Post by: smilley792 on May 21, 2016, 08:30:24 PM
I thought the skipper was Cameron!! Whoops.
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Post by: WalkingWicket37 on May 21, 2016, 08:32:40 PM
I'm much taller than Nick!
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Post by: Danny1981 on May 21, 2016, 08:34:42 PM
Yes and no as far as warming up goes.

A couple of season ago the skipper made the decision to drop the warm up routine halfway through the season, and resort to doing a jog round the pitch while throwing a ball to each other. Our warmups were so sh*t (dropped catches, throws nowhere near the keeper etc.) they were only lowering our confidence and giving the opposition a good laugh pre match! The jog round got us warm and everyone took a couple of catches to get their hands going.

I personally like to bowl a few deliveries on the practice strip before the game, and take a few catches off the cradle with a team mmate, but what works for one person doesn't work for everyone. We had a guy last season who would roll up a fag and smoke that while watching us go for our jog, he did alright opening the bowling every week...

That last bit sounds like me and a few of our older players
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Post by: uknsaunders on May 21, 2016, 09:10:16 PM
Does that mean @19reading87 has been stripped of the captaincy?  :o

No just away this week.

Kenny was lbw much earlier before I got him. I normally get him lbw everytime we play but the oppo umpire so Kenny gets the benefit for the last 3 years lol.  Kenny just poked one on a length straight to cover.  Tough conditions to bat in and it was a nasty situation to bat in.  82-5 off 26 or so overs out of 45. Going nowhere,  with not much in the hutch,  compounded by two bowlers not giving much away. My colleague took 5-13 off 10 and I took 1-13 off 10!
Title: Re: Discuss
Post by: uknsaunders on May 21, 2016, 09:13:34 PM
We don't do much in the warm up,  just a game of catch to loosen up.  Sometimes we do a few fielding drills but end up looking more of a rabble than when we started!
Title: Re: Discuss
Post by: kenbriooo on May 21, 2016, 09:20:12 PM
Made me chuckle when I saw you warming up with the fall of the wicket before me! You deserved more than the weather allowed, we were at least 30 runs short.
Glad I could be your only scalp, I'd much rather face the lad that got 5 with pace on the ball than your darts.
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Post by: GoodLeave on May 21, 2016, 09:24:17 PM
Our standard warm up is watching the oppo warm up. Over-rated.
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Post by: uknsaunders on May 21, 2016, 09:26:44 PM
Made me chuckle when I saw you warming up with the fall of the wicket before me! You deserved more than the weather allowed, we were at least 30 runs short.
Glad I could be your only scalp, I'd much rather face the lad that got 5 with pace on the ball than your darts.

Yeah,  I think you hit 5 of the 13 runs he conceded in just one over! I think the wicket was a little damp to start with and got wetter,  which played into my hands with my type of bowling.

Did anybody get the catcher?
Title: Re: Discuss
Post by: chrisbd on May 21, 2016, 09:34:34 PM
Can't believe teams don't warm up. We have a set routine. All the sports pysch work that's been done on it - warm up is essential.

Arrive at ground 1.5 hours before start. Group warm up for first 30 minutes - static and dynamic stretching. Then a teamtalk, identify oppositions strengths, weaknesses, key players, bowlers talk plans to specific batsman etc. Comprehensive fielding drills too.

Then next 30 minutes pre toss is about individual routines. Batters get a hit, slippers catch a few, bowlers tend to bowl between 20-30 balls.

Then the toss. Next 30 is about specific drills relating to toss. I.e openers do some work if batting first, or seam bowlers get fully loose if bowling first. Last 10 minutes is final preparation and words before we go out there.

Find it shocking people don't warm up!

CBD
Title: Re: Discuss
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on May 21, 2016, 09:35:40 PM
Yeah,  I think you hit 5 of the 13 runs he conceded in just one over! I think the wicket was a little damp to start with and got wetter,  which played into my hands with my type of bowling.

Did anybody get the catcher?

I guessed at hilly, redders or Maverick
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Post by: Bats_Entertainment on May 21, 2016, 09:45:03 PM
Can't believe teams don't warm up. We have a set routine. All the sports pysch work that's been done on it - warm up is essential.

Arrive at ground 1.5 hours before start. Group warm up for first 30 minutes - static and dynamic stretching. Then a teamtalk, identify oppositions strengths, weaknesses, key players, bowlers talk plans to specific batsman etc. Comprehensive fielding drills too.

Then next 30 minutes pre toss is about individual routines. Batters get a hit, slippers catch a few, bowlers tend to bowl between 20-30 balls.

Then the toss. Next 30 is about specific drills relating to toss. I.e openers do some work if batting first, or seam bowlers get fully loose if bowling first. Last 10 minutes is final preparation and words before we go out there.

Find it shocking people don't warm up!

CBD

That might be taking it a bit seriously at the level at which I play?
Title: Re: Discuss
Post by: chrisbd on May 21, 2016, 09:48:18 PM
I think you can take it as seriously as you want. If you want to be a better cricketer (which I assume everyone does), then doing everything in your power to allow you to do that is surely a good idea? Whether it's a warm up, or extra nets in the week, or collecting new bats (I know which of those three the forum will like best as an idea!)
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Post by: InternalTraining on May 21, 2016, 10:00:15 PM
We never warm up. Interestingly as an adult I have never stretched before physical exercise and I have never pulled a muscle. As a teenager we did and I sometimes pulled muscles. Young kids in the park do loads of running about, they never stretch and they never pull a muscle.
Additionally, the warm up is a bit pointless if you bat first.
We were in the semis of our T20 competition, it was due to start at 11.00am. The opposition got there at 9.30 they did a load of warm ups and fielding drills. We turned up at 10.45. Ok we lost but only by 4 runs and they were 2 divisions higher than us.
Warm ups, a pointless waste of energy.

When I stretch cold, it hurts and doesn't do me any good. When I stretch after a little jog or some warm up (even after hitting some balls), I move better. Stretching should be done when your body is warmed up and you have sweated a little. Stretching a cold body does nothing for me.
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Post by: InternalTraining on May 21, 2016, 10:03:06 PM
Can't believe teams don't warm up. We have a set routine. All the sports pysch work that's been done on it - warm up is essential.

Arrive at ground 1.5 hours before start. Group warm up for first 30 minutes - static and dynamic stretching. Then a teamtalk, identify oppositions strengths, weaknesses, key players, bowlers talk plans to specific batsman etc. Comprehensive fielding drills too.

Then next 30 minutes pre toss is about individual routines. Batters get a hit, slippers catch a few, bowlers tend to bowl between 20-30 balls.

Then the toss. Next 30 is about specific drills relating to toss. I.e openers do some work if batting first, or seam bowlers get fully loose if bowling first. Last 10 minutes is final preparation and words before we go out there.

Find it shocking people don't warm up!

CBD

We'd be lucky if entire playing-11 shows up 30 minutes before toss. We are such a disorganized mess. It is up to certain (responsible) team individuals who are scrambling to manage the team - scoring, dues, food, etc.
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Post by: chrisbd on May 21, 2016, 10:05:12 PM
I think I'm lucky in the sense that we have scorers, teas, umpires, groundsman - everything provided for, so all we have to worry about is playing. So it's something I understand isn't always possible.
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Post by: Woodyspin on May 21, 2016, 10:12:08 PM
Can't believe teams don't warm up. We have a set routine. All the sports pysch work that's been done on it - warm up is essential.

Arrive at ground 1.5 hours before start. Group warm up for first 30 minutes - static and dynamic stretching. Then a teamtalk, identify oppositions strengths, weaknesses, key players, bowlers talk plans to specific batsman etc. Comprehensive fielding drills too.

Then next 30 minutes pre toss is about individual routines. Batters get a hit, slippers catch a few, bowlers tend to bowl between 20-30 balls.

Then the toss. Next 30 is about specific drills relating to toss. I.e openers do some work if batting first, or seam bowlers get fully loose if bowling first. Last 10 minutes is final preparation and words before we go out there.

Find it shocking people don't warm up!

CBD

For someone that doesn't follow you success, where is you play? and what time do games start? 1.5 seems very reasonable if you are warming up specifically and have nothing to set up for. We meet 1:15 hours early, however the first 15 is setting up our ground (sight screens, boundary markers ect) then 20/30 minutes warm up then the toss and change.
Title: Re: Discuss
Post by: chrisbd on May 21, 2016, 10:15:36 PM
I play at Hampstead, ECB Middlesex prem.

Games start as early as 11 when we play 120 over days. We are lucky that the two main groundsmen have all that stuff set up, so we can just focus on cricket!
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Post by: Maverick79 on May 21, 2016, 10:22:06 PM
I guessed at hilly, redders or Maverick

It was me. Bit of payback as Kenny caught me first game of last season when we played his old club!
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Post by: Woodyspin on May 21, 2016, 10:22:58 PM
Lucky you! Although 120 overs? nah you're alright. 93 is enough. BUT! 11am start? where do i sign up!?
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Post by: 19reading87 on May 21, 2016, 11:49:03 PM
Great to read all this.

I am indeed captain of this lot, it's good to see them still continuing the high levels I set even when away!
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Post by: Bats_Entertainment on May 22, 2016, 01:51:44 AM
I think you can take it as seriously as you want. If you want to be a better cricketer (which I assume everyone does), then doing everything in your power to allow you to do that is surely a good idea? Whether it's a warm up, or extra nets in the week, or collecting new bats (I know which of those three the forum will like best as an idea!)

If you are old and know you have limited talent, the kind of warm up you suggest would be a lot of hard work for limited gain. That said, I do go to nets for 3 hours or more,  2 or 3 times a week, and run to keep fit. That is far more preperation than most do at the level at which I play.
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Post by: Bats_Entertainment on May 22, 2016, 06:57:25 AM
I heard Andrew Strauss say on the radio that he thought the quasi - professionalism creeping into recreational cricket is a bit sad. I'm inclined to agree with him.
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Post by: kenbriooo on May 22, 2016, 07:01:07 AM
Great to read all this.

I am indeed captain of this lot, it's good to see them still continuing the high levels I set even when away!

Was texting Nick last night saying it has been nice to watch how you've helped turn Ashorne around to a thriving and hopefully successful club
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Post by: GoodLeave on May 22, 2016, 07:49:18 AM
Sometimes I wish we would all turn up 1.5 hours early to net/warm up etc. I'd be all for it, I'm a bit OCD with my prep so I'm usually the first guy at the ground, but only ever 45 mins before kick-off since that's when the groundsman rocks up to open up. But then a fair few of our lot have got kids to sort/hangovers to recover from etc, so we still get them rolling in as we're tossing up.

Plus, after watching the oppo warm up for an hour to be bowled out for 60, kind of makes you wonder if there's much point at our level.
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Post by: FattusCattus on May 22, 2016, 10:27:52 AM

And which forum member (who got me caught out by another forum member) looks great in a bib when tossing up?

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Good Lord!!  It looks like the Walking School Bus is missing one of it's passengers - or alternatively, they've finally introduced Health & Safety into Hobbiton.
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Post by: Bats_Entertainment on May 22, 2016, 11:58:42 AM
Probably just as well it's not a running school bus? The fella doesn't look like he's very fit!
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Post by: 19reading87 on May 22, 2016, 07:17:53 PM
Was texting Nick last night saying it has been nice to watch how you've helped turn Ashorne around to a thriving and hopefully successful club

Thank you mate, that means a lot! It was always my main aim to make us more of a successful club on and off the pitch. 2 of my recruits to the club have been amazing and really helped. I'm not name dropping as they'll read this lol