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Equipment => Bats => Bat Care => Topic started by: runeshrenik on June 12, 2016, 07:15:58 PM

Title: Twine
Post by: runeshrenik on June 12, 2016, 07:15:58 PM
Can anyone recommend the best (possibly cheapest but not junk) place to buy the twine for rebinding handles?
Title: Re: Twine
Post by: Biggie Smalls on July 05, 2016, 06:33:08 AM
Ive been looking for twine myself (as i like to take the twine off my handles and use elastoplast with only a cm or so of twine at the bottom , and i am redoing some after getting some bat refurbs done ) . The cheapest ive seen so far , that could do the job , was on fleabay . It was netting repair twine . Was only 12 bucks but it was for 100m (imagine how many bats that would do !  ).
Title: Re: Twine
Post by: leatherseat on July 05, 2016, 09:50:49 AM
Ive been looking for twine myself (as i like to take the twine off my handles and use elastoplast with only a cm or so of twine at the bottom , and i am redoing some after getting some bat refurbs done ) . The cheapest ive seen so far , that could do the job , was on fleabay . It was netting repair twine . Was only 12 bucks but it was for 100m (imagine how many bats that would do !  ).

That sounds an interesting approach- why do you prefer to use Elastoplast instead of twine? Is it thicker, softer, lighter, or is there another factor?
I am intrigued.

Best,

David
Title: Re: Twine
Post by: langer17 on July 05, 2016, 11:30:04 AM
It's thinner so the handle will feel thinner. It's also lighter than twine.
Title: Re: Twine
Post by: Seniorplayer on July 05, 2016, 12:15:55 PM
Waxed cotton is what most batmakers use.
For a thinner handle i remove the twine and replace with bat fibre glass repair tape as it prevents handle flex.
Title: Re: Twine
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on July 05, 2016, 12:19:08 PM
Waxed cotton is what most batmakers use.
For a thinner handle i remove the twine and replace with bat fibre glass repair tape as it prevents handle flex.

As fibreglass tape has a smother surface than twine (or elastoplast) do you find that your grips move noticably more?
Title: Re: Twine
Post by: snafu on July 05, 2016, 12:32:06 PM
Look on Ebay item 170847680644 this is the stuff they use
Title: Re: Twine
Post by: edge on July 05, 2016, 04:18:43 PM
As fibreglass tape has a smother surface than twine (or elastoplast) do you find that your grips move noticably more?
I would guess the other way round tbh. The idea of wrapping your handle in fibreglass tape to reduce handle flex is all kinds of bizarre, sorry @Seniorplayer . How much tape do you use?!
Title: Re: Twine
Post by: Seniorplayer on July 05, 2016, 06:38:04 PM
I would guess the other way round tbh. The idea of wrapping your handle in fibreglass tape to reduce handle flex is all kinds of bizarre, sorry @Seniorplayer . How much tape do you use?!

Tend to use 1 inch wide tape working from the spine in a spiral just 1 tight wrap.
Not really to stop handle flex but to help keep handle together so it doesn't loses and then flex.
Title: Re: Twine
Post by: Seniorplayer on July 05, 2016, 06:43:59 PM
As fibreglass tape has a smother surface than twine (or elastoplast) do you find that your grips move noticably more?

No cam  haven't found any difference to  twine that said I alwaysput  spots of glue at the base of the handle ( at back front and sides )and press the grip onto the glue
Title: Re: Twine
Post by: CrickFreak on July 05, 2016, 06:49:02 PM
If you are in US, go to any hardware store and they should have it,
I bought one from Lowes, exactly same as used by batmakers.
Title: Re: Twine
Post by: edge on July 05, 2016, 07:09:43 PM
Tend to use 1 inch wide tape working from the spine in a spiral just 1 tight wrap.
Not really to stop handle flex but to help keep handle together so it doesn't loses and then flex.
Ah I see, purely as a thinner alternative to twine to hold it together then fibreglass tape makes a lot of sense.

Thinking aloud - with the increasing use of precise specs for cricket bats (edge/spine sizes etc) and the success of companies like B3 who market heavily on precision, will we see handle thickness one day become a specced part of a cricket bat? The ever-thinner modern bat handle, while great for some, is not so good for people like me with big paws for hands - the compromise between putting enough extra grips on to make the thickness up and having too much rubber between hand and bat is becoming a problem with new bats now. Other than just asking batmakers for bigger handles, I think Paul Aldred has offered custom handle size at some point in the past?
Title: Re: Twine
Post by: Seniorplayer on July 05, 2016, 08:20:01 PM
Ah I see, purely as a thinner alternative to twine to hold it together then fibreglass tape makes a lot of sense.

Thinking aloud - with the increasing use of precise specs for cricket bats (edge/spine sizes etc) and the success of companies like B3 who market heavily on precision, will we see handle thickness one day become a specced part of a cricket bat? The ever-thinner modern bat handle, while great for some, is not so good for people like me with big paws for hands - the compromise between putting enough extra grips on to make the thickness up and having too much rubber between hand and bat is becoming a problem with new bats now. Other than just asking batmakers for bigger handles, I think Paul Aldred has offered custom handle size at some point in the past?
I think it's already happening  as the handles are getting thinner more  bat makers  are now making handles themselves  to meet Customer requirements as they realise applying  grips  to get handle thickness required is not ideal whith grips there is also the balance of the bat to consider

Title: Re: Twine
Post by: Biggie Smalls on July 05, 2016, 10:27:54 PM
I use twine at the very bottom of the handle to minimize flex which could lead to shoulder cracks (so far ive not had any so i think its doing the job . Before this i had no twine at all and did get a couple bats develop shoulder cracks ) .
I use elastoplast because i can get a tight bind without lumps and it is thinner and lighter . I try to get the lightest,  thinnest handle possible . I also cut one inch off the top of my handle to get a 'super short' handle .
Ive been weighing things whenever doing these mods .
A full handle of twine is usually between 11-14 grams . My combo of twine bottom and elastoplast is usually between 5-8 grams . The top inch of the handle is usually between 11-15 grams . So i can often lose close to an oz in my handle weight by doing these mods . Its nice when 2lb9 all of a sudden is 2lb8 etc .
Also , i reckon changing twine for elastoplast feels like going down thickness by about .5 a grip . If I  feel i need more off or the semi ovalness of the handle is not quite right i have the chance to sand /shape the handle a bit while theres no twine/elastoplast etc on the handle .
I find the elastoplast option particularly helpful with my heavier bats . Ive noticed that the G.N Kaboom basically takes this exact approach - shorter , thinner handle with twine only on the bottom... although it has white medical tape instead of elastoplast. 
Title: Re: Twine
Post by: Jlscarroll17 on July 06, 2016, 07:13:40 AM
I use fabric strapping because it sticks great and you can pull it very tightly without any lumps when using plasters
Title: Re: Twine
Post by: Seniorplayer on July 06, 2016, 08:51:34 AM
I use twine at the very bottom of the handle to minimize flex which could lead to shoulder cracks (so far ive not had any so i think its doing the job . Before this i had no twine at all and did get a couple bats develop shoulder cracks ) .
I use elastoplast because i can get a tight bind without lumps and it is thinner and lighter . I try to get the lightest,  thinnest handle possible . I also cut one inch off the top of my handle to get a 'super short' handle .
Ive been weighing things whenever doing these mods .
A full handle of twine is usually between 11-14 grams . My combo of twine bottom and elastoplast is usually between 5-8 grams . The top inch of the handle is usually between 11-15 grams . So i can often lose close to an oz in my handle weight by doing these mods . Its nice when 2lb9 all of a sudden is 2lb8 etc .
Also , i reckon changing twine for elastoplast feels like going down thickness by about .5 a grip . If I  feel i need more off or the semi ovalness of the handle is not quite right i have the chance to sand /shape the handle a bit while theres no twine/elastoplast etc on the handle .
I find the elastoplast option particularly helpful with my heavier bats . Ive noticed that the G.N Kaboom basically takes this exact approach - shorter , thinner handle with twine only on the bottom... although it has white medical tape instead of elastoplast.
I do more or less the same thing for the same reasons but  I only remove the binding from where I grip the bat