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Title: Playing flat spinners
Post by: Kulli on July 18, 2016, 08:18:19 AM
This weekend I struggled bigtime against a certain situation and was after some advice.

I came up against a short offie who was mostly bowling darts at middle and leg. Usually against spinners I like to get to the pitch of the ball and take the game to them unless it's really spinning, but here I found the ball just wasn't in the air long enough to do so. Knocking him around for 2-3 an over is always an option but in cases like tbhis week where the RRR is creeping up what is the best way to tackle such a bowler. As a fairly darty offie myself I know the sweep it very useful but I'm 6'2 and struggle to get down quick enough to play if without a huge degree of premeditation.

Thanks

Title: Re: Playing flat spinners
Post by: mad_abt_cricket on July 18, 2016, 08:29:00 AM
Find this useful to find the gaps regularly, while using the crease on the backfoot:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJFi1OL2CK0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJFi1OL2CK0)
Title: Re: Playing flat spinners
Post by: alexhilly1492 on July 18, 2016, 08:33:59 AM
I treat them as a medium pacer more than spinner, play as straight as possible and work the ball into gaps, if you have someone at the other end who is a decent player you can soon run 6/7/8 an over without trying,

@uknsaunders bowls like that so might be able to help more in what he hates to have happen when he's bowling
Title: Re: Playing flat spinners
Post by: rahul_1987 on July 18, 2016, 09:43:56 AM
Yes, I would treat them as a medium pacer and play accordingly knowing that there is a slower bowl coming in as well.
Title: Re: Playing flat spinners
Post by: uknsaunders on July 18, 2016, 11:01:07 AM
I treat them as a medium pacer more than spinner, play as straight as possible and work the ball into gaps, if you have someone at the other end who is a decent player you can soon run 6/7/8 an over without trying,

@uknsaunders bowls like that so might be able to help more in what he hates to have happen when he's bowling

Two things to consider, how much turn is he getting and where is the field set?

I tend to get guys late cutting me or nudging fine down leg ie. Using the pace. Another option is to push the fielders back straight, depends how brave you are but guys tend to push me down the ground once back. If you milk a spinner for 4 singles an over, staying patient, then a bad ball will come. The spinner ends up shipping 50 off 10 overs.
Title: Re: Playing flat spinners
Post by: Jlscarroll17 on July 18, 2016, 12:10:52 PM
Play them as a medium pacer and look to push the ball around into the gaps, if your confident enough to play the slog sweep then do so but I'd just look to really manipulate the bowling push into gaps and make him eventually bowl to you which will then bring the boundary option
Title: Re: Playing flat spinners
Post by: The Palmist on July 18, 2016, 12:28:04 PM
Slog sweep all day long..throw in a few reverse slogs as well.
Title: Re: Playing flat spinners
Post by: Kulli on July 18, 2016, 12:38:21 PM
To the guys who do sweep, are you all midgets or have incredible reflexes, or is there a good deal of premeditation in your sweeping?
Title: Re: Playing flat spinners
Post by: Jlscarroll17 on July 18, 2016, 01:09:04 PM
In regards to sweeping, I tend to sweep on the line of ball rather than the length either outside of leg or off stump is the area I look to sweep the ball anything straighter than that I look to play down the ground or into gaps
Title: Re: Playing flat spinners
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on July 18, 2016, 03:56:16 PM
Play them as a medium dilly dobbler, work them around, especially straight. If you are strong off your legs then stand on off stump and pummel them through the leg side. When they move fielders, just shift your guard to own up the gaps
Title: Re: Playing flat spinners
Post by: InternalTraining on July 18, 2016, 04:14:30 PM
This weekend I struggled bigtime against a certain situation and was after some advice.

I came up against a short offie who was mostly bowling darts at middle and leg. Usually against spinners I like to get to the pitch of the ball and take the game to them unless it's really spinning, but here I found the ball just wasn't in the air long enough to do so. Knocking him around for 2-3 an over is always an option but in cases like tbhis week where the RRR is creeping up what is the best way to tackle such a bowler. As a fairly darty offie myself I know the sweep it very useful but I'm 6'2 and struggle to get down quick enough to play if without a huge degree of premeditation.

Thanks

I dealt with someone like that 2 weekends ago. He was very accurate in his line and length. As you said, a forward-press trigger followed by a march down to the pitch of the ball doesn't work and is risky. What worked for me was a front foot trigger while staying on the crease(get on front foot like batting on a sub-continental pitch) and play from there. I hit this guy straight, over his head, to mid-wicket, and extra-cover.
Title: Re: Playing flat spinners
Post by: MD2812 on July 18, 2016, 04:20:58 PM
In regards to sweeping, I tend to sweep on the line of ball rather than the length either outside of leg or off stump is the area I look to sweep the ball anything straighter than that I look to play down the ground or into gaps

If i'm looking to sweep I tend to have it at the front of my mind, with get out plans.

So i'm looking to sweep, but if it's too full i'll block/punch to mi/long on/off. if it's short i'll pull/cut.

so rather than lining 1 shot up, i've got 1 shot and 2 reserves. keeps it simple to me.
Title: Re: Playing flat spinners
Post by: dougydee on July 18, 2016, 10:44:51 PM
If he is consistently bowling the same line and length then premeditating a sweep is no big deal. You know your strengths and scoring zones better than anyone so you just need to find a way to score.