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General Cricket => Cricket Training, Fitness and Injuries => Topic started by: WalkingWicket37 on August 07, 2016, 09:25:56 PM
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Hi guys
Here is some footage from a pre game net I had vs the sidearm yesterday (6th August 2016).
Please note I hate facing the sidearm, and it is a minefield of a grass wicket ;)
As always comments and tips appreciated. :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekIc3bujjT0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekIc3bujjT0)
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I have watched a couple of your videos but also read your posts in the "Your Season" thread and they don't seem to correlate. You appear to have a reasonably sound technique and unless you're playing a very high level of club cricket, I feel you should be getting decent runs. I know batting low down the order can sometimes be distracting but my only advice would be to forgot what's happening at the other end and simply bat for yourself. Might sound a tad selfish but don't play cricket to please other people.
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It's hard to score runs when you don't get a bat...
I've not been dismissed in the league this season, but have 5 runs from 5 innings, having faced less than 20 balls. The issue isn't my technique, it's the preconceived idea the people in charge have that I am a walking wicket (irony, eh) who is lucky to bat as high as number 11. Nobody will give me the time of day to prove that I've worked hard on my batting at my club, so nothing will change on that front. In fact, many people seem to take pleasure in telling me I'm sh*t at every opportunity.
Anyway, that's for a different topic. Any comments on how I can improve or alter my technique further to maybe get a score if by some miracle I get the chance to bat would be much appreciated :)
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Senior players and coaching staff should be pulling clowns making comments like that into line. Your probably one of the few in your team that actually comes to practice to improve your skills and become a better cricketer. I would look at moving to another club that appreciates it's members and is more supportive.
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Go to a different club (Says the guy who's played for just about every club in my province :D). Sometimes to get an opportunity you need to move. Sounds like your club has no interest in giving you a decent go.
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You need to be batting mate
It's obvious you enjoy it and work hard at it
Get to another club/level whatever and get bat on ball
That's what it's all about
And move your feet!
Head over the ball on contact and all that
Maximum bang for your buck
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It's hard to score runs when you don't get a bat...
I've not been dismissed in the league this season, but have 5 runs from 5 innings, having faced less than 20 balls. The issue isn't my technique, it's the preconceived idea the people in charge have that I am a walking wicket (irony, eh) who is lucky to bat as high as number 11. Nobody will give me the time of day to prove that I've worked hard on my batting at my club, so nothing will change on that front. In fact, many people seem to take pleasure in telling me I'm sh*t at every opportunity.
Anyway, that's for a different topic. Any comments on how I can improve or alter my technique further to maybe get a score if by some miracle I get the chance to bat would be much appreciated :)
I presume you don't have a team below your current one because if I were you i'd be moving downwards to get more of a bat....but if you cant do that def with @Northern monkey you need to be batting, anything really,another club, a midweek game somewhere.......failing that practice.
If you really do love batting and you can set your realistic goals of what you want to achieve you will improve. there's no secrets to getting better, most of us have to work hard, practice and play and that's really it.
cricket is a frustrating game, gawd knows I couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo last season, this year it's all come back. How? positive mental attitude, practice, working on small parts of technique.
And you need to develop a thick skin....I stopped listening to people at my own club last year who said I was finished. Now i'm third in the averages(so far).
The same people who said I was no longer any good now want to congratulate me. Ignore it both ways that's what I do....they know jack diddly anyway!!!
it's a brilliant game when it goes right..no one gets there without whacking in a lot of effort. rewards will come
:)
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It's hard to score runs when you don't get a bat...
I've not been dismissed in the league this season, but have 5 runs from 5 innings, having faced less than 20 balls.
I had the same situation Cam. Started season playing for the 1sts and batting 9. Had 3 innings of which I had to block out around 4 overs in 2 of them to get us a draw. So after 3 games I had 7 runs from 3 innings including 2 n/o. The need to block came from the fact the 'proper' batsmen weren't getting runs.
So I asked to play for the 2nds in the next game, and yes the standard is a couple of leagues down, but I batted 6 and coming in at 24 for 4 I took 16 balls to get off the mark but then went on to get 90. I followed that up with a 52 this week. Just got my head down and tried to play sensibly.
Currently I have the best batting average in the club - finally justifying all those bats!
Maybe you could do the same, assuming the skipper for the team below will bat you up the order? If you play Sunday's do they ever change the order around so you could bat higher? If this doesn't work you may have to change clubs if they won't change their perception.
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Nobody will give me the time of day to prove that I've worked hard on my batting at my club, so nothing will change on that front. In fact, many people seem to take pleasure in telling me I'm sh*t at every opportunity
There were some guys who used take the p*** out of my batting at a club I played at many years ago. Batting is such a confidence based thing that you need a very thick skin for that kind of thing not to affect you. Eventually I left that club and though I'm certainly not god's gift to batting, nobody has done that again (at least not to my face). I think you'd need a massively good reason not to go looking for another club where they give you a bit more respect and you might find you fulfil your ability.
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3 big issues for me if you want to get better
1. That bottom hand takes over most shots, cover drive going to mid on, slicing across ball etc. Try some top and driving with only top hand.
2. Regardless of where ball pitches your foot plonks in the same spot, try and wait a bit longer to pick up line of ball.
3. Feet again and I think the most important issue, you land on the ball of your front foot leaving you poorly balanced and unable to move. Get a batting tee or even a ball on a string, practice landing heel first moving to the ball and playing it more under your eyes. Sounds basic I know but the issues you are having start at that basic level.
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3 big issues for me if you want to get better
1. That bottom hand takes over most shots, cover drive going to mid on, slicing across ball etc. Try some top and driving with only top hand.
2. Regardless of where ball pitches your foot plonks in the same spot, try and wait a bit longer to pick up line of ball.
3. Feet again and I think the most important issue, you land on the ball of your front foot leaving you poorly balanced and unable to move. Get a batting tee or even a ball on a string, practice landing heel first moving to the ball and playing it more under your eyes. Sounds basic I know but the issues you are having start at that basic level.
Point 3 is interesting because I've been taught from the age of 12 to land on the ball and not the heel
I was told landing on the heel was bad because I was planting the foot, so if there was any late swing i couldn't re adjust, whereas landing on the ball of the foot meant it was easier to change quickly
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I googled to find a vid of what I mean, this is an interesting drill I hadn't seen which highlights what I am trying to get across.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLKctdgWjj0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLKctdgWjj0)
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Funny old video that.
Look at the batsmans head during those drills. It is everywhere. Also given you are meant to get your foot alongside the line of the ball not on the line of the ball, plus your foot shouldn't point directly down the pitch, all in all I wouldn't go near that drill.
Your head leads your foot not the other way round. It is your head moving to the ball which gets your weight moving forward. I suspect that will lead to your heel landing first but it isn't something I would try and coach personally, I would leave it as one of those things the body will do naturally.
Personally, and I have chatted with Cam about this, he needs to find a way to make his batting a little more fluid rather so rigid.
Amusingly this is the least bottom handed video I have seen Cam play!
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I agree that the video was a bit unusual, I chose it because it exaggerated the heel making first contact with ground. Maybe it's different eyes looking but his bottom hand seemed dominant on most of that net.
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When did I play a cover drive to mid on? :(
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Without going back through it again, you don't feel you drag balls from outside off to the leg side?
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Without going back through it again, you don't feel you drag balls from outside off to the leg side?
Well yes, sometimes I give it a bottom handed biff - but I don't recall attempting to play a cover drive that ended up going to mid on (I'd have edited that one out...)
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Well yes, sometimes I give it a bottom handed biff - but I don't recall attempting to play a cover drive that ended up going to mid on (I'd have edited that one out...)
0.52 I think skippy is pointing out
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0.52 I think skippy is pointing out
Worth practising that shot though, drop to mid wicket for a quick single, get down the other end where there's less ways to be dismissed ;)
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Worth practising that shot though, drop to mid wicket for a quick single, get down the other end where there's less ways to be dismissed ;)
One way to think about it I suppose .
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Worth practising that shot though, drop to mid wicket for a quick single, get down the other end where there's less ways to be dismissed ;)
Sorry I thought you were genuinely after advice.
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Sorry I thought you were genuinely after advice.
I am, hence posting the video asking for advice...
Until this year when I sought the help of Buzz, I've never had any batting coaching. Yes it shows, and I'm not going to remove a lifetime of bad habits instantly. The leg side shovel/hoik always came naturally and I play it almost instinctively at times. It might not be pretty but it's something I do, and if it works to rotate the strike it seems foolish to eliminate it completely just because it isn't "textbook"
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I am, hence posting the video asking for advice...
Until this year when I sought the help of Buzz, I've never had any batting coaching. Yes it shows, and I'm not going to remove a lifetime of bad habits instantly. The leg side shovel/hoik always came naturally and I play it almost instinctively at times. It might not be pretty but it's something I do, and if it works to rotate the strike it seems foolish to eliminate it completely just because it isn't "textbook"
Carry on then if it's working.
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3 big issues for me if you want to get better
1. That bottom hand takes over most shots, cover drive going to mid on, slicing across ball etc. Try some top and driving with only top hand.
2. Regardless of where ball pitches your foot plonks in the same spot, try and wait a bit longer to pick up line of ball.
3. Feet again and I think the most important issue, you land on the ball of your front foot leaving you poorly balanced and unable to move. Get a batting tee or even a ball on a string, practice landing heel first moving to the ball and playing it more under your eyes. Sounds basic I know but the issues you are having start at that basic level.
First point above is the key imo. Using the top hand more will also keep the ball down, a couple of cover drives that you did play were in the air. Not easy to change when your bottom hand dominant but worth asking bowlers in the nets to concentrate on a line outside off stump and focus on playing the ball through the offside.