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Title: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: GDP1964 on October 02, 2016, 07:46:46 PM
REVOLUTION BLACK ???
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: Buzz on October 02, 2016, 09:40:59 PM
Are these making a comeback?.
http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=14984.45 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=14984.45)
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: GDP1964 on October 03, 2016, 06:43:35 AM
New Bat being introduced by B&S South Africa they have been working with a very good friend of there's who is a Proffessor in the Aero Space design industry  . The Tester of the Product over the past 12 Months is a ex South African Player  and 5 of there top Sponsored Players  and I have had two prototypes which have being doing the rounds with various Sponsored Players here in the UK  over the last 5 months and feed back from here in the UK  has duplicated the findings of SA tested bats which are.

Shape.  Very Diffrent ( in some cases UGLY )
Pick Up  Very Good
Middle.  The longest middle ever experienced
Balance  Very Good
Feel.      Very good

I will  have 3 with me on Wednesday waiting on the Decals to be released and will get them out there so far in South Africa only their Sponsored players have them but will be available to public by the end of November
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: amritpremi on October 03, 2016, 07:13:30 AM
Everything any CBFer needs in a bat. Waiting for pics to be released
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: potzy248 on October 03, 2016, 07:33:04 AM
Love the camo design that covers the whole bat - The gamble paid off IMO.
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: FattusCattus on October 03, 2016, 07:36:44 AM
Are these making a comeback?.
[url]http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=14984.45[/url] ([url]http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=14984.45[/url])


They were good - you should do a run of the Mark III version for your adoring public.
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: JTtaylor145 on October 03, 2016, 07:37:52 AM
Brilliant news Gary, can't wait to see these in the flesh!! :o
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: GDP1964 on October 03, 2016, 07:58:58 AM
Decals will be SA designed I don't think they will have anything to do with the decals Buzz was talking about
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: Vitas Cricket on October 03, 2016, 10:25:49 AM
I have seen one of these bats, and its a very interesting shape, it really doesn't look right at all. But boy the ball flies when using it!
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: avkrish on October 04, 2016, 02:01:32 PM
I will  have 3 with me on Wednesday waiting on the Decals to be released and will get them out there so far in South Africa only their Sponsored players have them but will be available to public by the end of November

Will we see any photos tomorrow or will it be a suspense until November?
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: GDP1964 on October 04, 2016, 08:09:32 PM
Once  the Bats decals arrive and they  are all stickered up and ready for sale I will then put photos up




Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: JB on October 04, 2016, 08:22:37 PM
I'm intrigued
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: Jaffa on October 04, 2016, 08:35:03 PM
Once  the Bats decals arrive and they  are all stickered up and ready for sale I will then put photos up

I'm sure we'll all enjoy the naked look too!
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: oldfudger on October 04, 2016, 09:59:44 PM
Weight ?
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: Sivlar13 on October 05, 2016, 06:15:49 AM
You fellars won't be disappointed, as Gary said the middle is the longest possible and you can tell! The one I've seen and swung around was 2.10.
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: avkrish on October 05, 2016, 06:52:02 AM
Once  the Bats decals arrive and they  are all stickered up and ready for sale I will then put photos up

Let us see the bat first, Gary. Don't make us wait please.
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: Garmatthews on October 05, 2016, 07:33:19 AM
looking forward to this :) :) :)
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: sgcricket on October 05, 2016, 02:02:41 PM
i think this is the most anticipated bat on here at the forum.
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: rahul_1987 on October 05, 2016, 02:11:09 PM
i think this is the most anticipated bat on here at the forum.

Yes waiting for the pics :)
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: Calzehbhoy on October 05, 2016, 04:17:10 PM
Had me on tenterhooks as soon as it was described as ugly but effective :)

Ditto! Describes my usual Saturday Night!
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: moonball on October 06, 2016, 12:29:03 PM
Yes, it will be interesting to see - assume it to be similar to the new Callan stick or maybe a GN Nemesis or Vortex... Keenly anticipated by the looks of things. Is there a time & date?
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: Sivlar13 on October 06, 2016, 04:49:28 PM
So, the profile you've all been waiting for. Here is the Revolution Black shape, the bat with the longest middle ever created. This stick weighs 2.8.5 so these will be quite light! As you can see the grains are beautiful too.

(http://i1045.photobucket.com/albums/b451/Joshua_Sivier/Mobile%20Uploads/BF98069A-CE35-49B3-82FA-77779C6D9455_zpsfx9ezidn.jpg) (http://s1045.photobucket.com/user/Joshua_Sivier/media/Mobile%20Uploads/BF98069A-CE35-49B3-82FA-77779C6D9455_zpsfx9ezidn.jpg.html)

(http://i1045.photobucket.com/albums/b451/Joshua_Sivier/Mobile%20Uploads/E7A379C5-0183-48E4-8D4A-A204AB89CDEF_zps1dkhqyo8.jpg) (http://s1045.photobucket.com/user/Joshua_Sivier/media/Mobile%20Uploads/E7A379C5-0183-48E4-8D4A-A204AB89CDEF_zps1dkhqyo8.jpg.html)
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: Tom on October 06, 2016, 04:51:42 PM
I know what you mean about the profile. Looks something like a first time batmaker would make!
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: smilley792 on October 06, 2016, 05:11:19 PM
Reminds me of an early 90s Volvo! 'Made with a set square and not a curve in sight.
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: Sivlar13 on October 06, 2016, 05:19:14 PM
Some would say it looks 'ugly,' it does certainly look different but it fair dinkum packs one hell of a punch.
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: alexhilly1492 on October 06, 2016, 05:24:28 PM
Kinda reminds me of this:
http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=37554.0 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=37554.0)
If you look at the 3rd pic down to me it's very similar
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: JB on October 06, 2016, 05:28:12 PM
Kinda reminds me of this:
[url]http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=37554.0[/url] ([url]http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=37554.0[/url])
If you look at the 3rd pic down to me it's very similar


I can see that, the way the edge changes direction abruptly
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: GDP1964 on October 06, 2016, 05:36:21 PM
I asked Matt about this in fact took it too him we put it up against his Tempo Chalk and Cheese his looked Better
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: alexhilly1492 on October 06, 2016, 05:53:33 PM
I asked Matt about this in fact took it too him we put it up against his Tempo Chalk and Cheese his looked Better

Don't get me wrong I like he shape! Lovely to see something different, hopefully get over to a retailer and have a look at one soon
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: GDP1964 on October 06, 2016, 06:02:05 PM
All comments accepted gratefully good or bad that's all part and parcel of being in this Game don't expect too many sales on looks the ones that sell  do may get the feed back of long middle and good pick up I guess performance outweighs looks only time will tell
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: smilley792 on October 06, 2016, 06:06:04 PM
Reminds me of an early 90s Volvo! 'Made with a set square and not a curve in sight.

To add I like 90s volvos, especially the estate ones with big turbos...... but then I'm Wierd.
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: Ams4287 on October 06, 2016, 06:07:56 PM
Actually quite like it - coverage over edge etc I'd be interested to get an idea of edge size, spine height and a photo toe up

It's on of those profiles that you'd want to have a net with before buying though probably
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: alexhilly1492 on October 06, 2016, 06:09:36 PM
Yeah! I would love a hit with one! Maybe a forum event over at vitas is in order again
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: JB on October 06, 2016, 06:16:57 PM
It's probably one of those bats that needs to be seen in the flesh to fully appreciate! Bet the pick up is nice
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: procricket on October 06, 2016, 06:19:22 PM
So, the profile you've all been waiting for. Here is the Revolution Black shape, the bat with the longest middle ever created. This stick weighs 2.8.5 so these will be quite light! As you can see the grains are beautiful too.

([url]http://i1045.photobucket.com/albums/b451/Joshua_Sivier/Mobile%20Uploads/BF98069A-CE35-49B3-82FA-77779C6D9455_zpsfx9ezidn.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1045.photobucket.com/user/Joshua_Sivier/media/Mobile%20Uploads/BF98069A-CE35-49B3-82FA-77779C6D9455_zpsfx9ezidn.jpg.html[/url])

([url]http://i1045.photobucket.com/albums/b451/Joshua_Sivier/Mobile%20Uploads/E7A379C5-0183-48E4-8D4A-A204AB89CDEF_zps1dkhqyo8.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1045.photobucket.com/user/Joshua_Sivier/media/Mobile%20Uploads/E7A379C5-0183-48E4-8D4A-A204AB89CDEF_zps1dkhqyo8.jpg.html[/url])


I like this shape massively it follows the weight even distribution principle and a theory of mine about wasted wood above a certain amount theory.

I worked on the zizi,  this is a brilliant shape and one Bellingham and Smith should be proud of.

Coverage is the gagen press of cricket bats and should be the in vogue thing
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: procricket on October 06, 2016, 06:22:54 PM
finally something really to talk about on the forum actual tech and wood science instead of innuendo bingo great stuff Gary.

I would and will buy one if they become available
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: tommo256 on October 06, 2016, 06:24:05 PM
Ive used this shape bat, and it flies. Unbelievable from toe upwards is just quality. Its very different, but in order to stay ahead you have to be different
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: Sivlar13 on October 06, 2016, 06:24:12 PM
It's probably one of those bats that needs to be seen in the flesh to fully appreciate! Bet the pick up is nice

Once you have a hit with one you'll be amazed, I was pretty baffled when I used one of the prototypes, balls around the stickers were managing to fly, the pick is very good too.
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: procricket on October 06, 2016, 06:25:26 PM
Once you have a hit with one you'll be amazed, I was pretty baffled when I used one of the prototypes, balls around the stickers were managing to fly, the pick is very good too.

So they should even weighted coverage principle not often I get excited by bats now but I understand the theory behind the coverage should be the whole bat.
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: uknsaunders on October 06, 2016, 06:34:42 PM
I'm actually underwhelmed. Sorry garry but shock horror a full body high middle bat goes well?  M&H Amplus anybody? I might of missed something but good luck any way.
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: Bats_Galore on October 06, 2016, 06:45:37 PM
I really really like the look of this bat. In the dealings I have had with b and s overstatement doesn't seem part of the repertoire as such I would definitely be in the queue once it is available.
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: Vitas Cricket on October 06, 2016, 06:56:25 PM
I'm actually underwhelmed. Sorry garry but shock horror a full body high middle bat goes well?  M&H Amplus anybody? I might of missed something but good luck any way.

It's nothing like an amplus, wait for better photos :)
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: GDP1964 on October 06, 2016, 07:13:52 PM
It's nothing like an amplus, wait for better photos :)
Sorry chaps I will be visiting Vitas soon which means dusty can take some pictures and post my photographic skills are severely lacking
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: Northern monkey on October 06, 2016, 09:00:32 PM
That looks a bit out there
A lot of wood in the hitting area
Would be interested in a net with that

Might just shape something similar up for the eversley net
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: FattusCattus on October 06, 2016, 09:43:51 PM
Do it Monkers - and weight it so that normal people can use it! :)
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: i12breakfree on October 07, 2016, 02:13:21 AM
I like this shape massively it follows the weight even distribution principle and a theory of mine about wasted wood above a certain amount theory.

I worked on the zizi,  this is a brilliant shape and one Bellingham and Smith should be proud of.

Coverage is the gagen press of cricket bats and should be the in vogue thing

thats the first thing this bat reminded of ..your b3 zizi
long sweet spot but hard to digest the shape
hope it works out
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: Garmatthews on October 07, 2016, 03:36:34 AM
Any ideas on the price?
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: GDP1964 on October 07, 2016, 06:15:15 AM
Only doing these in Grade 1 and along with all my other Grae 1 Bats they will be £260.00 with Free Postage with in the UK
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: JTtaylor145 on October 07, 2016, 07:02:03 AM
Gary,

I'll will certainly have one once they are available!!!

Thanks
JT
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: Alvaro on October 07, 2016, 10:16:58 AM
A mate and I think this Looks similar to an MSR shape.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/REDUCED-BY-40-SH-PLAYERS-ENGLISH-WILLOW-CRICKET-BAT-1128/152160824432?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D39012%26meid%3D98b5c4df3d744e77ad8bce05a2befa98%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D162071306731 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/REDUCED-BY-40-SH-PLAYERS-ENGLISH-WILLOW-CRICKET-BAT-1128/152160824432?_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D39012%26meid%3D98b5c4df3d744e77ad8bce05a2befa98%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D162071306731)
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: Vitas Cricket on October 07, 2016, 11:21:08 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/XcTtkrEh.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/yR5adGIh.jpg?1)
(http://i.imgur.com/JX1kQiNh.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/CYgAYUYh.jpg)
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: procricket on October 07, 2016, 11:50:38 AM
Like a said it a smaller zizi nice bat though that a principle I think it great.

Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: Drupy01 on October 07, 2016, 12:14:28 PM
Looks a stunning profile!

What's the pickup like?
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: Northern monkey on October 07, 2016, 12:24:28 PM
Hmm
A lot of wood down the bottom half of the bat
Looking at those pics, I'd say it's gonna be difficult without some severe concaving to get it around 2.9ish?
And it's surely gonna pick up bottom heavy?

I'm intrigued enough to nip out and shape one now
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: Vitas Cricket on October 07, 2016, 12:31:24 PM
The pickup is very good, not toe heavy at all. This bat weighs 2'8 with very little concaving.

(http://i.imgur.com/gANfBw2h.jpg)
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: Northern monkey on October 07, 2016, 12:57:31 PM
Yeah
Just taken off about half an ounce of dead weight to match that edge shape, I've still left 25mm edges and toe
The pick up is vastly improved, quite surprising

I reckon you could have a 30mm toe and edged bat with that profile at 2.10, and it would pick up unreal.
Perfect bat?

Bout time we got away from stupid edges

And that toe up picture looks mega!

Just had a little knock up with it in the garden, very nice
I'm sold

And if they are being made by who I think they are, your onto a winner there
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: edge on October 07, 2016, 02:55:10 PM
I'm intrigued, would love to try one but hard to get your head around how that shape would feel in the hands! Dare I say it, there's just a hint of Mongoose Cor3?
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: Northern monkey on October 07, 2016, 03:02:55 PM
I'm surprised how much difference to the pick up its made, by slimming the edges down that way
I've always removed the weight from the spine,and as a whole across the profile, but half an ounce from edges makes a big difference to pickup

Would be interested in maybe a warbird/Toro type combo with this profile
The bat speed would be unreal through the ball and you could maybe go up a couple of ounces on dead weight
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: GDP1964 on October 07, 2016, 04:02:03 PM
PATENT PENDING 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 if only
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: Northern monkey on October 07, 2016, 04:14:14 PM
Can't copy the quality of willow and pressing those B&S bats are gonna have
 :)
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: Tom on October 07, 2016, 04:27:43 PM
(http://i212.photobucket.com/albums/cc235/lexxroden/2010875.jpg)
I can see the reference to the CoR3, although would argue the CoR is more elegant and had a focus of retaining a thick toe from the middle down
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: Garmatthews on October 07, 2016, 06:16:13 PM
Only doing these in Grade 1 and along with all my other Grae 1 Bats they will be £260.00 with Free Postage with in the UK

Sounds good. Do let me know when they become available along with the shipping rate to Canada. Thank You
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: Drupy01 on October 28, 2016, 02:39:50 PM
([url]http://i.imgur.com/XcTtkrEh.jpg[/url])
([url]http://i.imgur.com/yR5adGIh.jpg?1[/url])
([url]http://i.imgur.com/JX1kQiNh.jpg[/url])
([url]http://i.imgur.com/CYgAYUYh.jpg[/url])


Is there any stickers out for this bat yet?
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: GDP1964 on October 28, 2016, 08:14:33 PM
Finalising now out soon
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: Davehugh on August 03, 2017, 09:47:08 PM
Did anyone get one of these in the end? I'm pretty interested not scared of going for something ugly if the performance is there?
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on August 03, 2017, 11:31:32 PM
Did anyone get one of these in the end? I'm pretty interested not scared of going for something ugly if the performance is there?

I think @Sivlar13 has one
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: Sivlar13 on August 04, 2017, 03:14:10 AM
I think @Sivlar13 has one

I do! Great design, middle is very long.
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: LBWCandidate on August 04, 2017, 02:43:16 PM
I do! Great design, middle is very long.

Review/Pictures, please.  :)
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: LcWoodward on August 04, 2017, 02:44:15 PM
Looks very thin
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: Sivlar13 on August 04, 2017, 08:25:26 PM
Review/Pictures, please.  :)

Will do one on Sunday!
Title: Re: REVOLUTION BLACK
Post by: Sivlar13 on August 04, 2017, 08:29:07 PM
Did anyone get one of these in the end? I'm pretty interested not scared of going for something ugly if the performance is there?

Odd shape absolutely, but mine is anything but ugly!