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Title: Dukes vs Kookaburra unfair advantage
Post by: well past my peak on October 20, 2016, 09:50:25 AM
In an attempt to improve the Aussies recent poor performances against the Poms. CA have directed that 4 rounds and the final will be played using the Duke ball,
http://www.cricket.com.au/news/cricket-australia-trial-dukes-ball-england-ashes-sheffield-shield-2016-17-swing/2016-03-30 (http://www.cricket.com.au/news/cricket-australia-trial-dukes-ball-england-ashes-sheffield-shield-2016-17-swing/2016-03-30)

Interestingly our Grade comp. here have  now included the option for clubs to use the dukes. It's been funny watching the clubs in a mad panic scouting stock of the dukes as clearly the clubs which got in early have an unfair advantage over the dukeless clubs, as those nuts here are swinging around corners and late in the innings too.
The recent addition of the duke has just brought it to my attention that we had options, I assume we were only allowed to used kooks as that all that I have ever seen used in our grade however now reading our local laws we are have always had the option of using kooks, gabba or platypus and now dukes.
As I think about seems odd that we can compete in a game with teams using different balls.
How about your comp. ?

Title: Re: Dukes vs Kookaburra unfair advantage
Post by: Biggie Smalls on October 20, 2016, 10:55:37 AM
All comps ive played in ( sydney grade , sydney shires , s.m.c.a  winter comp ) have allowed using platypus balls for ages . I always thought clubs were mad for sticking with a Kookaburra,  even more so now that Dukes are allowed.  Kookaburras are just utter filth i.m.o.
Title: Re: Dukes vs Kookaburra unfair advantage
Post by: Wickets-then-runs on October 20, 2016, 11:03:50 AM
Brisbane Grade cricket has been able to use Gabba or Duke as an option for a while now. Norths used to use them but has gone back to Kooks. I played against Uni a few weeks ago who used a Dukes ball: rock hard and did not swing or seam much either. Flew out of the middle though...
Title: Re: Dukes vs Kookaburra unfair advantage
Post by: Vitas Cricket on November 09, 2016, 11:08:45 AM
There will be another alternative shortly that might be ruffling a few Kookaburra feathers.
Title: Re: Dukes vs Kookaburra unfair advantage
Post by: SteffanLangholz on November 09, 2016, 11:29:52 AM
There will be another alternative shortly that might be ruffling a few Kookaburra feathers.

Tiflex? Please tell us what you know :P
Title: Re: Dukes vs Kookaburra unfair advantage
Post by: Vitas Cricket on November 09, 2016, 11:30:19 AM
Tiflex? Please tell us what you know :P

Not Tiflex, can't say anything else currently unfortunately.
Title: Re: Dukes vs Kookaburra unfair advantage
Post by: Number4 on November 09, 2016, 12:32:51 PM
Will they be hand picked ?  ;)
Title: Re: Dukes vs Kookaburra unfair advantage
Post by: roco on November 09, 2016, 12:38:04 PM
Spartan super ball

swing seams and spins more unless it detects a Spartan bat then it will only go straight and home in on the middle every time
Title: Re: Dukes vs Kookaburra unfair advantage
Post by: csnew on November 09, 2016, 01:21:26 PM
Probably New Balance or SS
Title: Re: Dukes vs Kookaburra unfair advantage
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 09, 2016, 01:23:16 PM
I don't think so.
You'll be surprised by who it is, if my hunch is correct.

They're a huge name in cricket, but don't always scream and shout like some of the other big players.
Title: Re: Dukes vs Kookaburra unfair advantage
Post by: joeljonno on November 09, 2016, 01:24:59 PM
It'll be a Shrey.

A box of six will have two with damaged seam, three with scuffed/missing leather and one absolute beaut.
Title: Re: Dukes vs Kookaburra unfair advantage
Post by: SteffanLangholz on November 09, 2016, 03:39:50 PM
I don't think so.
You'll be surprised by who it is, if my hunch is correct.

They're a huge name in cricket, but don't always scream and shout like some of the other big players.

We all know what brand you are worshiping!
Title: Re: Dukes vs Kookaburra unfair advantage
Post by: Jaffa on November 09, 2016, 04:06:56 PM
We all know what brand you are worshiping!

If they're Hunting for a new brand. I wasn't happy with their league balls. I was there having a quick tour given by Tony and I picked a few out of a box. I had to hand pick them as some weren't actually round.

They turned out to be Rock hard.
Title: Re: Dukes vs Kookaburra unfair advantage
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on November 09, 2016, 04:10:02 PM
We all know what brand you are worshiping!

If they're Hunting for a new brand. I wasn't happy with their league balls. I was there having a quick tour given by Tony and I picked a few out of a box. I had to hand pick them as some weren't actually round.

They turned out to be Rock hard.

Not them, do not pass go, do not collect £200  ;)

In fact, it's a brand that I'm not a big fan of
Title: Re: Dukes vs Kookaburra unfair advantage
Post by: GDP1964 on November 09, 2016, 06:51:14 PM
I won't disclose the new source but Tiflex was mentioned earlier I do know Bradbury has got  Tiflex into Perth in quite a big way
Title: Re: Dukes vs Kookaburra unfair advantage
Post by: Bat and Ball Cricket on November 10, 2016, 02:23:59 AM
Brisbane Grade cricket has been able to use Gabba or Duke as an option for a while now. Norths used to use them but has gone back to Kooks. I played against Uni a few weeks ago who used a Dukes ball: rock hard and did not swing or seam much either. Flew out of the middle though...

The Duke was that significantly different in that game mate that...... I didn't even know it was a Duke until you told me after our innings.....

So much for seaming and swinging at right angles!

Must just be the super high grade balls that do that  ;). It couldn't possibly be the quality of players in our grade....
Title: Re: Dukes vs Kookaburra unfair advantage
Post by: langer17 on November 10, 2016, 03:25:21 AM
Brisbane Grade cricket has been able to use Gabba or Duke as an option for a while now. Norths used to use them but has gone back to Kooks. I played against Uni a few weeks ago who used a Dukes ball: rock hard and did not swing or seam much either. Flew out of the middle though...

Every single duke I've come across has felt terrible off the bat and vibrated every bat I owned.

Have used the gabba ball's too which are good for all of 5 overs before the seam goes to sh*t and it goes soft.

We either get Kook club or the Kook regulation rejects now. The rejects are nice as they often have such small defects causing them to be downgraded from the very top model.