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Title: What Makes A Good T-20 Bat?
Post by: InternalTraining on October 27, 2016, 07:41:52 PM
Folks,

I am going back to basics and want to understand what is needed in a good T-20 bat? How it should feel? What would be the impact of going heavy or lighter (than your normal bat weight) when using this bat in a T-20 match? Some of the areas of interest:

- blade length
- bat length
- location of the sweet spot (if bat length is not standard)
- edge size (thin v/s thick)
- Willow grade?

Basically, if you were designing a T-20 bat, what would your bat look like?
Title: Re: What Makes A Good T-20 Bat?
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on October 27, 2016, 07:47:34 PM
Why does a T20 bat have to be different to any other bat?

I'd quite like a standard blade length, moderate edges, high spine, no concaving and a mid/low sweet spot. Luckily I have a Hunts County Aura that fits the bill and seems to go alright. it will be my 50 over, 42 over and T20 bat me thinks  :)
Title: Re: What Makes A Good T-20 Bat?
Post by: mad_abt_cricket on October 27, 2016, 07:50:24 PM
If you look at most of the internationals, their bats do not change much with the format in terms of blade length. Perhaps they go for slightly heavier bats for T20, this is to get value for mistime and offcenter shots. So bigger bat ( edges / spine) is pretty obvious as long as it picks up well.
Rest really doesn't matter.
Title: Re: What Makes A Good T-20 Bat?
Post by: tom line on October 27, 2016, 07:52:00 PM
Fullish bat, with a small amount of concaving just to keep the weight manageable and arguably help with pick up, inch shorter blade for increased bat speed and a counter balance handle, mid-low middle given the likelihood of trying to smash Yorkers and therefore preferable no duckbill for added strength to the toe, I wouldn't want this made out of top end willow, there's no point in my eyes buying a bat you're going to use solely for t20 at the cost of grade 1+ willow, cheaper balls are normally used in club t20s and you're trying to hit everything it's likely it's gonna break at some point so would prefer something at a grade 3 price point.
I'd also want a decent bow, helps you clear the infield and again to me at least improves pick up
Title: Re: What Makes A Good T-20 Bat?
Post by: smilley792 on October 27, 2016, 07:57:40 PM
I'm Wierd. But.



I use a heavy and less bowed bat for midweek cricket. Why? MY bat speed is slower, and less bow means I keep the ball low and on the floor.

"But you want to hit more sixes" 8 here you cry. Well in my league, most teams start a t20/midweek game with 4 or 5 men's alreadybout and a mis timed aerial shot means your caught(on a Saturday its an easy two)


Despite what people believe you, can score a lot of runs in a t20 match without hitting a lot of boundaries.

Title: Re: What Makes A Good T-20 Bat?
Post by: GoodLeave on October 27, 2016, 08:01:35 PM
Newbery Blitz for me.

Failing that, Warbird.
Title: Re: What Makes A Good T-20 Bat?
Post by: ElPerro on October 27, 2016, 08:05:55 PM
Without meaning to sound facetious what makes a t20 bat good more often than not is the batsman.

People can get to het up on different bats for different situations, I can understand the logic but for me you'd be better served spending time figuring out how you're going to play in different situations
Title: Re: What Makes A Good T-20 Bat?
Post by: InternalTraining on October 27, 2016, 08:12:00 PM
Without meaning to sound facetious what makes a t20 bat good more often than not is the batsman.

People can get to het up on different bats for different situations, I can understand the logic but for me you'd be better served spending time figuring out how you're going to play in different situations

I think this is a fair comment. Based on my experience, a different type of a bat does make a difference to how I bat. And, having used a variety of shapes/weights, I can tell you that one size doesn't fit all situations. If I were really such a skilled batsman, do you think I'd be asking these questions. :) To my batting, a bat _does_ make a difference hence the question. 
Title: Re: What Makes A Good T-20 Bat?
Post by: sanredrose on October 27, 2016, 09:35:17 PM
Mid sweet spot, spine extending till the toe and 2mm concaving a.k.a Kookaburra Kahuna 1000. This works for me in T20 as well as 40 overs ... I have tried switching to different ones but eventually end up coming back to this bat !
Title: Re: What Makes A Good T-20 Bat?
Post by: edge on October 27, 2016, 10:16:21 PM
Possibly a slightly lower middle for a t20 bat as I'm going out after the ball more rather than letting it come to me like in a longer game. Other than that, don't see the need for any difference?
Title: Re: What Makes A Good T-20 Bat?
Post by: Aussiecollector on October 27, 2016, 10:57:54 PM
Mathew hayden always used a lighter bat for his t20 matches  he would practice with his normal blade to get his timing then switch to the t20 bat , he relied on his exceptional hand eye coordination to pick up the length & the lighter bat gave him increased bat speed to launch the ball  there was little difference between both bats apart from the weight
Title: Re: What Makes A Good T-20 Bat?
Post by: jd163 on October 27, 2016, 11:10:58 PM
I use a heavier 2-12 (B3 TKC) or 2-14 (Aldred Velocity) bat in T20 and lighter 2-10 (SS & Laver) in longer format. So far this setup is working for me.
 
Title: Re: What Makes A Good T-20 Bat?
Post by: Scruffy on October 28, 2016, 01:51:49 AM
Here is a T20 specialist bat I have recently made. Along the lines of the Blitz/Warbird/Toro/Spirit
Its not for everyone, and as stated previously, I think its more about finding a technique or style of play that suits the shorter formats rather than changing bats completely.
The customer who ordered this is someone who swings hard at everything. No matter the format they are playing.
Long handle/short blade combo enabling max wood to be in the hitting area. Offset edge to extend the middle vertically. No concaving. This one was 2.10.5 but with the long handle picks up slightly heavier than that.
Next to a standard short handle for comparison...
(http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb420/paul_young3/DSC01609_zps9g0yaux9.jpg)
(http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb420/paul_young3/DSC01773_zpskkmnr6si.jpg)

Title: Re: What Makes A Good T-20 Bat?
Post by: Ridenmarke on October 28, 2016, 02:02:47 AM
Here is a T20 specialist bat I have recently made. Along the lines of the Blitz/Warbird/Toro/Spirit
Its not for everyone, and as stated previously, I think its more about finding a technique or style of play that suits the shorter formats rather than changing bats completely.
The customer who ordered this is someone who swings hard at everything. No matter the format they are playing.
Long handle/short blade combo enabling max wood to be in the hitting area. Offset edge to extend the middle vertically. No concaving. This one was 2.10.5 but with the long handle picks up slightly heavier than that.
Next to a standard short handle for comparison...
([url]http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb420/paul_young3/DSC01609_zps9g0yaux9.jpg[/url])
([url]http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb420/paul_young3/DSC01773_zpskkmnr6si.jpg[/url])


Wow Is that image burned in?
Title: Re: What Makes A Good T-20 Bat?
Post by: i12breakfree on October 28, 2016, 02:07:39 AM
something like this

(http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t518/i12breakfree/CricDeals-stock/pro-bat/2ec663d4-6e04-423f-a920-08b22b36299e_zpsbignkexy.jpg) (http://s1063.photobucket.com/user/i12breakfree/media/CricDeals-stock/pro-bat/2ec663d4-6e04-423f-a920-08b22b36299e_zpsbignkexy.jpg.html)

(http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t518/i12breakfree/CricDeals-stock/pro-bat/IMG_20161007_181348_zps1dhy8yma.jpg) (http://s1063.photobucket.com/user/i12breakfree/media/CricDeals-stock/pro-bat/IMG_20161007_181348_zps1dhy8yma.jpg.html)

(http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t518/i12breakfree/CricDeals-stock/pro-bat/IMG_20161007_181405_zpsztuzzi33.jpg) (http://s1063.photobucket.com/user/i12breakfree/media/CricDeals-stock/pro-bat/IMG_20161007_181405_zpsztuzzi33.jpg.html)

(http://i1063.photobucket.com/albums/t518/i12breakfree/CricDeals-stock/pro-bat/IMG_20161007_180538_zpshm41vqty.jpg) (http://s1063.photobucket.com/user/i12breakfree/media/CricDeals-stock/pro-bat/IMG_20161007_180538_zpshm41vqty.jpg.html)

2-11
48 mm edge size
long handle, shorter blade
pingtastic
Title: Re: What Makes A Good T-20 Bat?
Post by: Scruffy on October 28, 2016, 02:08:27 AM
Wow Is that image burned in?
Yeh mate, laser engraved.
(http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb420/paul_young3/DSC01771_zpsv3jtxmlw.jpg)
Title: Re: What Makes A Good T-20 Bat?
Post by: edge on October 28, 2016, 04:15:04 AM
@Scruffy that looks class mate, always love seeing photos of your bats!
Title: Re: What Makes A Good T-20 Bat?
Post by: Ridenmarke on October 28, 2016, 04:27:17 AM
Yeh mate, laser engraved.
That's pure class mate
Title: Re: What Makes A Good T-20 Bat?
Post by: sgcricket on October 28, 2016, 09:35:51 AM
Wow love the engraving. And the profile looks good.
Title: Re: What Makes A Good T-20 Bat?
Post by: ajnabi02 on November 07, 2016, 02:16:25 PM
Yeh mate, laser engraved.
([url]http://i1204.photobucket.com/albums/bb420/paul_young3/DSC01771_zpsv3jtxmlw.jpg[/url])


V.nice engraving
Title: Re: What Makes A Good T-20 Bat?
Post by: Alvaro on November 07, 2016, 02:29:16 PM
The bloke holding it?
Title: Re: What Makes A Good T-20 Bat?
Post by: InternalTraining on November 07, 2016, 06:16:02 PM
The bloke holding it?

Really? Would a bat made with this cleft work for your "bloke"?!

(https://everyrecordtellsastory.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/toothpick-held-in-hand.jpg)
Title: Re: What Makes A Good T-20 Bat?
Post by: dcullen8 on November 07, 2016, 09:03:03 PM
Providing were using mini pickled onions as balls yes..
Title: Re: What Makes A Good T-20 Bat?
Post by: Calzehbhoy on November 07, 2016, 10:32:02 PM
Providing were using mini pickled onions as balls yes..

What about small cubes of Pineapple and Cheese?
Title: Re: What Makes A Good T-20 Bat?
Post by: InternalTraining on November 07, 2016, 10:59:30 PM
You don't know where you are then.