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Title: Andrew Strauss And England's Tour Of Bangladesh
Post by: Watsontotty on January 18, 2010, 09:18:58 PM
Ok England named the squad for the forthcoming tour of Bangladesh and have decided to allow Andrew Strauss to rest ? this has left me confused and some what perplexed, Strauss has said stuff like the England team is not where he thought it would be right now and some players have also not progressed in the way he had hoped. Taking this into consideration how then van he decide not to tour Bangladesh as he is England captain who should be there to oversea the tour and the new squad members.

This makes me believe that we are not being told the whole truth and i believe England are hiding something and problems are being brushed under the carpet and not for the first time either. Obviously the decision to rest Anderson is justified as Jimmy has been struggling with injury for several months so needs to recover before the season starts. A number of new players are being blooded on the forthcoming tour so Strauss simply should be there if he is to continue to captain the team.

Quick point regarding the Batting coach ? why did he leave South Africa after the first test ? surely he should remain on tour with the team to work with players on a daily basis. Would the England football team allow the coach to leave after the first game of a world cup ? so why does this happen with the England cricket team makes no sense to me at all. With regards to the squad I'm a little disappointed however I've not seen a lot of Shahzad to comment on him but not heard many people stating his case for inclusion.

Alastair Cook (captain, Essex)
Ian Bell (Warwickshire)
Stuart Broad (Nottinghamshire)
Michael Carberry (Hampshire)
Paul Collingwood (Durham)
Steven Davies (wkt, Surrey)
Graham Onions (Durham)
Kevin Pietersen (Hampshire)
Liam Plunkett (Durham)
Matt Prior (wkt, Sussex)
Ajmal Shahzad (Yorkshire)
Ryan Sidebottom (Nottinghamshire)
Graeme Swann (Nottinghamshire)
James Tredwell (Kent)
Jonathan Trott (Warwickshire)
Luke Wright (Sussex)
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss And England's Tour Of Bangladesh
Post by: niceonechoppy on January 18, 2010, 09:29:28 PM
If Strauss deserves a rest then surely Collingwood does! He plays every form of cricket too! Why should strauss go? Very strange.
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss And England's Tour Of Bangladesh
Post by: Alvaro on January 18, 2010, 09:31:46 PM
What gets me is the numbers in the squad? Why the hell do they need all those medium pacers? It's Bangladesh, so spinners needed (one would think, Shakib has just bowled half of the overs in India's first innings); they then ditch Rashid, perhaps justifiably, but replace him with nice but non-turning off-spinner Tredwell. Maybe Wainwright as a left-arm spinner should have been blooded if Panesar is still persona non grata.

It just perplexes me where this team is headed, it just reeks of fuzzy thinking and whims (oh and the Birmingham/East Midlands mafia) - it has been lucky for eight/nine months and needs a firm hand on the tiller. Strauss should have gone. Not looking forward to Cap'n Cook.
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss And England's Tour Of Bangladesh
Post by: peplow on January 18, 2010, 09:37:15 PM
Yeah squad looks a bit thin on what we'd consider international standard players, looking down the list there's a few new names and a few that haven't even been chucked in the melting pot before and seem pretty average, but there must obviosuly be a reason behind it and they must be thought to be good enough so who knows. Seems odd, but then do we ever agree with the selectors....4th test and onions for example...
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss And England's Tour Of Bangladesh
Post by: Watsontotty on January 18, 2010, 09:37:43 PM
I didn't mention a lot about Cook as i feel he has enough on his plate with his technique so could do without the captaincy if I'm honest. The captaincy is the making of some players so we will have to wait and see on that one however i don't personally think it will be but i hope im wrong.
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss And England's Tour Of Bangladesh
Post by: jamespaxton on January 18, 2010, 09:44:03 PM
agree with alvaro, surely someone like wainright would be more useful than luke wright, especially as they already know wrights capabiltiys and the fact that its in bangladesh.
reckon trego for ODI side too
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss And England's Tour Of Bangladesh
Post by: Colesy on January 18, 2010, 10:02:46 PM
I can understand why Strauss did this, this doesn't mean I agree with it though. Thinking back to the Eng Vs Aus ODI's last year Ricky Ponting went home for a few weeks for a break, but he came back to finish the series......

Title: Re: Andrew Strauss And England's Tour Of Bangladesh
Post by: Apple on January 18, 2010, 10:06:20 PM
this squad in two words- Piss take.
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss And England's Tour Of Bangladesh
Post by: Apple on January 18, 2010, 10:07:59 PM
oh and who will open
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss And England's Tour Of Bangladesh
Post by: harrystokoe on January 18, 2010, 10:08:51 PM
I'm guessing Cook and Carberry?
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss And England's Tour Of Bangladesh
Post by: jamespaxton on January 18, 2010, 10:14:23 PM
this squad in two words- Piss take.
wouldnt say it was that bad,
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss And England's Tour Of Bangladesh
Post by: niceonechoppy on January 18, 2010, 10:16:02 PM
Yehh that sounds like the best option.
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss And England's Tour Of Bangladesh
Post by: GJ on January 19, 2010, 05:17:51 PM
looks like a good squad. Would love to see Carberry open alongside Cook. And would also like to see Shahzad given a test in bangladesh.
Two spinners will most likely be played in each match and rightly so! As a spinner, i wouldnt mind a few overs on that Chittagong pitch, is turning square!!
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss And England's Tour Of Bangladesh
Post by: raymond on January 19, 2010, 10:10:50 PM
I know that rashid hasnt done great, but this would of been perfect for him, seems odd to suddenly cast him aside.

Shazhad looks good, bowls high 80's, can reverse it and is also a useful batter.
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss And England's Tour Of Bangladesh
Post by: pumakid on January 19, 2010, 10:13:18 PM
I disagree with Shazad. When iv'e seen him he seems to be a bit wayward and inconsistent.
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss And England's Tour Of Bangladesh
Post by: Ashvir on January 19, 2010, 10:16:26 PM
I disagree with Shazad. When iv'e seen him he seems to be a bit wayward and inconsistent.

Agreed. Why isn't Bopara in the squad. He would have made runs thus boosting his confidence
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss And England's Tour Of Bangladesh
Post by: niceonechoppy on January 19, 2010, 10:21:47 PM
Shahzad is a very good cricketer, bowls briskly with generally good consistency, swings it a bit both with new and old ball and is more than capable of getting runs. I was disappointed that Rashid or Wainwright from Yorkshire weren't called up to the squad either. Will everyone actually play a part during that series or is going to be another watch and bowl in the nets scenario?
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss And England's Tour Of Bangladesh
Post by: niceonechoppy on January 19, 2010, 10:23:44 PM
Agreed. Why isn't Bopara in the squad. He would have made runs thus boosting his confidence
Bopara hasnt been scoring big runs in NZ county cricket Ashvir! Simple as that. He barely bats at all in their OD (apart from an 89) or T20 side (Auckland). In fact last time i checked when Shah and Bopara played each other Shah scored 65* from 27 balls! He sounds in good nick.
Title: Re: Andrew Strauss And England's Tour Of Bangladesh
Post by: GJ on January 20, 2010, 05:32:37 PM
seems like they have dragged Rashid around a bit. Given him the odd game here and there. But this was a perfect oppurtunity for him to show the selectors his talent and was surprising of his ommision from the squad.
Dont see why Bopara should be recalled, whats he done to warrant a selection recently?