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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: Bats_Galore on January 18, 2017, 08:13:57 PM
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There is a reasonable amount of contention regarding butterfly willow, from batmakers such as Len Newbery, James Laver and Paul Aldred, who think it is amongst the best performing willow, if not the best, to other makers feeling it's good for heating the building. It made me wonder whether any blemishes improve performance above even straight grains, and if so which ones improve performance the most and which ones deminish performance the most.
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I am a fan of graping on a bat face.
I dont like knots
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Also a big fan of graping, ball seems to fly off it, however I love a hard bar, if you can get one in the middle of the bat and it's been pressed right the ball rebounds off them phenomenally well
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iMO Best performing willow has white straight tight promenent grains and no blemishes
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I am a fan of graping on a bat face.
I dont like knots
How does the graping change the performance of the bat?
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iMO Best performing willow has white straight tight promenent grains and no blemishes
What difference would the prominence of the grains make?
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I will take graping over any other blemish.. Butterfly willow bats are OK only if they cost less than £100. Paid over £200 for Aldred butterfly bats.
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Best performing bat I own, have ever used. Gray nicolls kaboom players edition. Has grapping and a big chunk of heartwood.
Up highly in my rated list, - g2 H4l half heartwood with grapping, several B3 butterflies(infact my club has about 11 of them and all perform very very well) some grade 3 kookaburras(old and new)
I've had a few g1 bats that went well, b3s, H4l, affinty etc.
On the other end of the scale I've had some cheap G3 plank from gray nics and GM, but I've also had a few high end plans with perfect grains from GM.
I prefer a bat to have character but in my opinion non of it means performance!! Either get from a reputable seller and or maker, who will back the bat.
Or get to the shop and have a try. Should easily avoid a plank then. Regardless of grade and markings.
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What difference would the prominence of the grains make?
the more promenent the grains the quicker the fibres will open up in between the grains.
Also promenent grains are an indiacation that the bat as been pressed correctly
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I love a blemished bat I do!
Not fussed about butterfly stains, I can take or leave those
I like heartwood on my inside edge (no more than 1/3 of the bat though...), graping & hard bars.
Something a bit like this is perfection to me...
(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g66/tom_line/IMG_4849_zps4nxslvjp.jpg) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/tom_line/media/IMG_4849_zps4nxslvjp.jpg.html)
(http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g66/tom_line/IMG_4845_zpstkyrgexg.jpg) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/tom_line/media/IMG_4845_zpstkyrgexg.jpg.html)
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Guess the guy who found it should get a mention really... 😉😂
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Graping being the horizontal marks across the face of a bat, normally a bit harder?
What causes it?
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Buterflies feel a bit hard to me. Some like them on the back which I have to be and that really flue.
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I'm not phased by any really. I like bats to be ugly on the back as they are like ugly ducklings to me. My Helios has a knot on the bat and I like looking at it when I bat. No idea why though.
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Also a big fan of graping, ball seems to fly off it, however I love a hard bar, if you can get one in the middle of the bat and it's been pressed right the ball rebounds off them phenomenally well
What does graping on a bat mean? Can you please share a pic?
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Graping is like this:
(http://i1010.photobucket.com/albums/af230/ch4d0m4n/IMG_8353.jpg)
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Got it, thnx!
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On a side note, the GM 404 looks awesome for the grade...didnt know one could get such willow for a 404!
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There is a reasonable amount of contention regarding butterfly willow, from batmakers such as Len Newbery, James Laver and Paul Aldred, who think it is amongst the best performing willow, if not the best, to other makers feeling it's good for heating the building. It made me wonder whether any blemishes improve performance above even straight grains, and if so which ones improve performance the most and which ones deminish performance the most.
I don't care how ugly the face of my bat looks as long as it goes and I don't mind showing that 'UGLY' face of my bat to the bowlers bowling to me more often. I guess, they may hate it more than me......lol!
On a serious note, shape (small edge, high spine), mid to high sweet spot, light weight and pickup and last but not the least, handle shape (exaggerated bottom oval hand) is all what I look for in my bats. I may not go for a bat that has more than 30% heartwood but that is just due to the fact that it may be too hard. Any well pressed bat but ugly willow works for me!
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I am a fan of graping on a bat face.
I dont like knots
Ditto
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@Number4 you wouldn't know what a knot looked like all your bats are customs & babied
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Well you do have a point there