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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: Shinpathy on January 31, 2017, 02:35:50 AM
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Just found this guy selling supposedly truly "pro" grade cricket bats using the top 1% or 0.5% clefts lol.
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I've had GN Legends, GM Mogul, Kookaburra Patriots. All shop bats and all average compared to international players bats."
Is this just another absolute bs seller marketing absolute tripe? Major false advertising and slagging normal retail bats saying those players grade and grade 1 willows are crap compared to his "limited edition" clefts.
His youtube videos are a joke too... apparently he has been accumulating bats for over 10 years.
The advertising claims this guy makes is unbelievable such as:
"The Mercenary range is the big boys of bats. These are absolute beasts. Only the best top 1% of oversized willow goes into these bats. These bats truly are huge and make a mockery of normal sized bats. Super low density performance willow. Made of elite test grade English Willow. You can't buy these in a shop and certainly not available to the public.
These bats are bigger than Warners bat. If you are after a big blade to help you put the ball not only over the fence but out of the park, then this batfor you."
"The Assassin LE range is the elite and Rolls Royce of cricket bats. These were all once sponsored international players bats. Kohli, De Villiers etc. Only the best top 0.5% of willow goes into these bats. Picked out of the top Assassins and rated both on appearance and performance. These bats truly are out and out cannons. Super low density high performance willow. This willow is what is reserved for the international players. Elite test grade English Willow. You can't buy these in a shop and certainly not available to the public. If you are after the best and only the best will do. Then the Assassin LE is for you"
https://www.facebook.com/hitmancricket (https://www.facebook.com/hitmancricket)
http://www.hitmancricket.com.au/index.php (http://www.hitmancricket.com.au/index.php)
"You can't buy these in a shop and certainly not available to the public. So no you won't find these in shops and they certainly are not easy to get even with many contacts."
Lol
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just had a Hitman Mercenary come through the doors for preparation and it is a very very nice stick, definitely not a huge bat though but its not small. Pings very nicely too.
I do agree with you that some of the claims they make sound a bit dodgy haha!
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Few interesting claims, look like they are from same maker as Ulysses. Top 3 grades are all international players grade willow, not many companies can claim that. Can't see many players paying $1200 or $900 for an unknown brand with stickers of some sort of gangster on it though. Seems passionate and good luck to him but it's a tough gig. If they are same as Ulysses the one I prepared was a nice stick, it was the top one so not sure how they compare to lower models.
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Yea but he is basically saying other mainstream brands such as Gray Nicholls/NB etc with their players grade ranges are not in fact real players grade willow compared to his Hitman range.
These bats are as rare as it gets. Getting a hold of them even with the contacts I do is very difficult.
To give you some idea, these things would murder your GN Legend Gold and GM Mana!
It's like putting a Holden up against a Ferrari!
PS: if you can't make runs with one of these Assassins, you really shouldn't be playing!
Even Grandma could make a run with these!!!!
Performance: 9.5-10/10 (Trampoline Ping) due to ridiculous size
The Mercenary will bully the ball over the fence. You will have the bowlers at your mercy!
PS: if you can't clear the infield with one of these you really should start hitting the gym!
This bat is for the blokes who can't hit the ball off the square!
You can't buy these in a shop and certainly not available to the public.
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Not available to the public - unless you buy over the net from a start up brand. It's gimmicky but I am sure a few tragics like us will have a crack looking for the perfect bat.
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For £550 I'd want something pretty special for my money, I'd expect someone to be included to hit it out of the ground for me.
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He's surfing the ocean with some radical blue sky thinking
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He's surfing the ocean with some radical blue sky thinking
This is the type of strategic engagement that disincentivises key stakeholders from taking a customer-centric 360 degree helicopter view to establish business insight and become an intelligence led evidence-driven enterprise.
What?!
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This is the type of strategic engagement that disincentivises key stakeholders from taking a customer-centric 360 degree helicopter view to establish business insight and become an intelligence led evidence-driven enterprise.
What?!
As a HSE and improvement engineering manager I live in that world
I hate the lingo but Bull Crap bingo is the greatest game ever in meetings
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This is the type of strategic engagement that disincentivises key stakeholders from taking a customer-centric 360 degree helicopter view to establish business insight and become an intelligence led evidence-driven enterprise.
Reminded me of when I use to go to work
What?!
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As a HSE and improvement engineering manager I live in that world
I hate the lingo but Bull Crap bingo is the greatest game ever in meetings
Couldn't do it mate, I'm nout but a humble shop keep.
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His claims and pics of prefect grainy bats on the website can mean only one thing - he is sourcing his willow from CX
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This bat is for the blokes who can't hit the ball off the square
This line sold it to me...
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His claims and pics of prefect grainy bats on the website can mean only one thing - he is sourcing his willow from CX
Willow or wallpaper?
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Nice wallpapers with 20+ grains on 60mm edge bats :D
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Anyone taken a punt on one of these?
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Anyone taken a punt on one of these?
Played against a guy with one of the $900 ones a month or so ago, he couldnt bat but it sounded awful and didnt seem to be anything outrageously good
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Played against a guy with one of the $900 ones a month or so ago, he couldnt bat but it sounded awful and didnt seem to be anything outrageously good
Mr Grundy apparently had a bat with 65mm edges and a 80mm spine on one of his videos, the bat allegedly is 2lb 14oz and 10+mm bigger than real warners ;)
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Those youtube vids look shifty though .
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Know a couple of lads from Oz that have these & know the lad that makes them. One of them goes like a gun, decent straight grains 9 and weighs 2.10.
The ball defiantly stays hit with it.
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Know a couple of lads from Oz that have these & know the lad that makes them. One of them goes like a gun, decent straight grains 9 and weighs 2.10.
The ball defiantly stays hit with it.
Indian made aren't they?
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Might be wrong, but the two guys I know have come with Hitman bats from Oz. Could be a different brand
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It's the same brand from looking at the website, Like i said one was a gun. The other one didn't look great
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Got my first look a Hitman bat this week, super thin shoulders, poorly shaped handle. Not sure where Punisher model sits in the range but like most things that have hyped marketing it's pretty disappointing.
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Got my first look a Hitman bat this week, super thin shoulders, poorly shaped handle. Not sure where Punisher model sits in the range but like most things that have hyped marketing it's pretty disappointing.
According to the website its the bottom of his range.
Outlandish claims and overhype, what a surprise
seen 2 up here and they were utter planks, great looking bats but may as well been using a piece of pine
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Got my first look a Hitman bat this week, super thin shoulders, poorly shaped handle. Not sure where Punisher model sits in the range but like most things that have hyped marketing it's pretty disappointing.
I was pretty dissappointed in the marketting alone. Plenty of people took the hook. Seriously though the big edge era is out and sellers are still attracting people wanting these crap bats for crap ability. Get some coaching.
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Im in the process of organising one of these bats, ill post up my opinion, going to take a few weeks for me to finish getting the funds organised.
Im looking at the Assasin, so mid to upper range out of Hitman...
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Im in the process of organising one of these bats, ill post up my opinion, going to take a few weeks for me to finish getting the funds organised.
Im looking at the Assasin, so mid to upper range out of Hitman...
what a rubbish username ! :D
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Just had a look at the Hitman website for the first time, are these guys actually for real?! Get a load of this:
The Assassin range is the model below Godfather. These are international players bat/hand picked by directors.. These bats are very special. You most certainly will not find one in your store. Super low density high performance willow. This willow is what is reserved for the international players. Elite test grade English Willow. You can't buy these in a shop and certainly not available to the public. If you are after one of the best bats you will lay your eyes on. Then the Assassin is for you.
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@Shinpathy - If my memory serves right, you have some stunning SG player edition cricket bats. Why would you want these Hitman bats? :D
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@Shinpathy - If my memory serves right, you have some stunning SG player edition cricket bats. Why would you want these Hitman bats? :D
Absolutely no need :D
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Absolutely no need :D
:D :D :D
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Last season we had a guy turn up to training who is selling Hitman bats, is a mate of one of the players at my club. Nice bloke and all and some of the bats looked really nice, but his claim was that some of them were reserved for Kumar Sangakkara and Dwayne Bravo, which I found a bit hard to believe and there was no way he could authenticate that...
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@Over Gully - There is simply no way to confirm if the bat was indeed made for Sangakarra or Bravo. This is the basis for all these bogus sellers. Nowadays if someone comes to me and says this is a Pro bat, I simply thank them for showing it to me and walk away from the sale :D
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ill be visiting this blokes place on the weekend to look and possibly pick a bat, will post up my opinion once completed.
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edit, couldnt meet with this person due to flooding in my area, will get there this weekend though, few more days and ill post up my experience/opinion
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edit, couldnt meet with this person due to flooding in my area, will get there this weekend though, few more days and ill post up my experience/opinion
how'd you go?
i should have my personal bat arrive during the coming week! looking forward to it
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didnt get a chance to post up yesterday.
so as planned visited hitman's home base over the weekend.
i was greeted by someone truly passionate about cricket and specifically cricket bats.
so ryan had 3-4 he shortlisted based on my requirements. All of which were amazing bits of wood. I felt the pickup and ping of each of them, all of them had more response than ive ever felt before (and have had a few G1 bats in my time). Yes its easy to post up big claims online but the feel has me 100% sold! seriously with very little bat movement the ball was just flying off these sticks and it had such a soft feeling through the handle.
i spoke to ryan for a good hour and never felt rushed through any of it. im not well off financially so a bat costing this much is a big purchase for me. After meeting and testing it was a no brainer. I picked the bat which i felt was was right and performance like ive never seen before and told him to get it ready, ryan said he will hand knock it in for 15 hours and put on all the protection i need (extratec and fibre tape on) plus some shoe goo and a bat cover is also included. I dont expect to see the bat before chrissy but ill put up some pics when I get it.
Rough description is 2.8 in weight, SH, mid to low sweet spot and duck billed shape.
Only complaint i have is there is a small blemish in the willow on the face of the bat but i have to remember performance is more important than looks!
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sounds very much like my personal dealings with ryan.
being in Tasmania it didn't leave me much option but to trust the reviews/feedback and his selection.
i was keen on a relatively light stick and we ended up agreeing on this...i should have it in my hands by next week :)
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i cant believe how much that thing looks like what I selected over the weekend!
do you have any photo's of the face?
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here it is stickered/knocked in/prepared...without stickers it was sitting smack bang on 2lb7...much like yourself im telling myself its not about appearance :D
if anything ryan could do better is take better photos...not many seem to do justice lol
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@delazy May i ask how much u paid for this?
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I'm not exactly sure how Ryan's pricing reflects generally...but the bat I purchased is one of the lower end models...certainly not a premium option...
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Please share the details about the specs when it arrives. ;)
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certainly will :)
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thanks for sharing photo of the face, very similar grain structure to the one i picked (but not identical).
I only wanted 5-6 grains on my bat and it looks like yours is in the same boat.
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Did they mention what sort of warranty these bats have?
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15hours of hand knocking in!! :o !! Will there be any life left in the bat
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Two members with a relatively low post count raving about a brand that previously had a bit of stick.
My nerdy senses are tingling... :-[
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Two members with a relatively low post count raving about a brand that previously had a bit of stick.
My nerdy senses are tingling... :-[
You could be onto Sum Ting Wong my friend :D
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Two members with a relatively low post count raving about a brand that previously had a bit of stick.
My nerdy senses are tingling... :-[
fair comment to make...but im certainly not raving about a brand...atleast until ive had a decent hit with it
i stumbled across the forum while looking for reviews/feedback on the ayrtek helmets given they arent widely used in Australia (of which i purchased directly from Tom)...it also just happened i stumbled across this thread and was mid purchase of a bat already...
i personally dont know ryan and have only had discussions via facebook (i am some 900km from where he lives and seperated by water)...i did however jump in the deep end and purchase a bat sight unseen purely based on feedback left by some 100 other happy customers and ryans personal opinion/suggestions towards what i wanted in my new stick...
as previously mentioned the bat is yet to arrive but ill be sure to update once it does...it could very well turn out to be plank or potentially an absolute belter of a stick...but i cashed out at the risk of that rather than write off a brand/product because the claims were abit questionable
i find it more satisfying buying something like the hitman and being different to the average joe...i could be like everyone else and buy the typical Aussie GN Players, but wheres the fun in that?
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How much did you pay for your hitman bat if it’s not too much to ask?
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Two members with a relatively low post count raving about a brand that previously had a bit of stick.
My nerdy senses are tingling... :-[
Exactly what I was thinking to post lol.
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Two members with a relatively low post count raving about a brand that previously had a bit of stick.
My nerdy senses are tingling... :-[
What does my post count have to do with it?
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What does my post count have to do with it?
You are likely totally innocent and we're a bunch of cynics on here, so please feel free to ignore my tongue in cheek post.
However, it isn't unknown for a brand to set up accounts and pretend to be customers. They then provide a glowing review.
It's happened before and will no doubt happen again, but my post was a joke that many members will have understood :)
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that makes sense, cheeky but it makes sense ;)
not sure if ive seen claims from a seller like this before, the 'itsjustcricket' youtube vids sometimes get close :D
delazy - ive had a close look at the two pics you've posted, maybe its the whisky from last night talking but it looks like they may be two different cricket bats. The first one has a flat toe, like a NB DC1080, the second a curved toe like a NB TC1260....
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Delazy - ive had a close look at the two pics you've posted, maybe its the whisky from last night talking but it looks like they may be two different cricket bats. The first one has a flat toe, like a NB DC1080, the second a curved toe like a NB TC1260....
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Definitely the whiskey and maybe the photo...another photo accompanied the profile view which showed the face and the grain structure is exactly the same (albeit not really that clearly) :)
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What does my post count have to do with it?
Its more that you have such a dodgy username ;) :D
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:)
Definitely the whiskey and maybe the photo...another photo accompanied the profile view which showed the face and the grain structure is exactly the same (albeit not really that clearly) :)
cool, im happy to blame Mr Daniel's
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Its more that you have such a dodgy username ;) :D
LOL im still blaming the whisky ;)
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15hours of hand knocking in!! :o !! Will there be any life left in the bat
Should use a mallet, 15 hours with the hand does nothing.
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hopefully get the bat sometime next week, will post up some pics when i get it.
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I hope you have better luck with Australia post than I have...I'm still waiting :( good timing as I cracked a toe with my current bat on the weekend
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Australia post are absolutely hopeless now.
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and their prices are absurd! I posted a 200g small satchel 100kms from the post office and it cost $15!
@delazy how long ago was it posted?
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Ryan managed to cop a hit on the ankle and delayed postage until early last week...I'm in tassie so it takes awhile at the best of times...I'm expecting it'll be on the doorstep today/tomorrow I guess
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and their prices are absurd! I posted a 200g small satchel 100kms from the post office and it cost $15! Kudos to @Australian fast bowler ;)
@delazy how long ago was it posted?
I use Interparcel and select Startrack Authority to Leave. Pickup a bat from my front door in Adelaide to anywhere in Australia within 4 days for about $15.
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bloody hell that sounds like a much better option!
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Bat arrived yesterday! Very impressed by it! Will get photos and measurement sorted within a few days!
Early ball tests suggests it'll play in nicely and already feels/sounds better than my grade 1 kookaburra patriot (GCCC special) it's replacing!
Only a few days late after getting caught on the long boundary rope playing straight Sunday... :(
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awesome stuff, i already cant wait to receive mine and ill be on holidays when it comes in :(
cant wait to see your pics, enjoy that new bat smell :D
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quick snaps with horrible lighting and iphone camera
a mishap by me yesterday with the scuff sheet catching on the bag and peeling 25mm at the toe, meant i had to remove the original and fitted a new scuff tonight...just waiting on a fresh roll of tape before i retape the edges... **also missing the edge stickers due to this :( **
the kookaburra is last years crush that was released as a Big Bash special...its also 2lb7 and also sounds/pings alot nicer than the grain structure would suggest...
hoping to find my verniers in the garage on thursday to take a few measurements for those that asked along with better photos during the day... but edges on the hitman are ~43mm according to a metal ruler
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Doesn't mean it's not a good un (my match bat for the last 3 years is a has been a low end CA that flies), but would i be correct in suggesting the grip means it's likely a Pakistan made bat?
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not sure in relation to the grip...i hadnt seen any like it before...i had every intention to remove it and give the aero grip a try but after handling the bat i actually like it...feels alot better than most other grips ive previously used...kookaburra ones being the only others ive liked and generally carry a few spares...
ill assume the III VK is refering to the profile...but unsure what the second photo was before being scribbled out...
****edit - have just noticed ulysses offer the same grip****
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Looks absolute yuck. As long as you like it.
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i was waiting for the bat snobs...
- willow appearance wise its not pretty/handle finish is rough
- stickers are of an exceptional high quality
- profile/weight is exactly what i wanted
- customer service offered was second to none
- shop bats at similar pricing didn't come close
- early bash with both mallet and ball suggests itll perform quite well compared to anything else i own
- this bat is also one of the CHEAPEST bats hitman offers....
its no australian GN players bat...but i didn't want it to be ;)
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As I said, as long as you like it.
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@delazy please let us know how you get on with it, and if it lives up the Hitman claims.
I like the shape, and it would not bother me if it is Hitman's lowest grade, the best bat I have is the lowest grade GN. So good luck with it
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Did you pay $600 (equivalent to £344.54 GBP) for this bat?
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i was waiting for the bat snobs...
- shop bats at similar pricing didn't come close
Really?
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Did you pay $600 (equivalent to £344.54 GBP) for this bat?
not even close....
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What did you pay for it?
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not even close....
Right okay, that's the price on their website?
One thing I'm a bit weary of, you don't really know what you're going to get when the grade of willow is stated as;
'Willow: Next best willow down the Hitman line'
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@mattw i tend to agree...nor am i going to pretend to know/understand how ryan grades his bats...@BIGGIE might understand the situation more so given he visited his house and viewed the bats in person when selecting his new stick...
that said...i have a 2013/2014 kookaburra patriot which was a grade 1 bat and it doesn't nearly respond the same as the hitman...
i think the website itself might tend to cause alot of the butt hurt/misconception in relation to the brand and the bats...from what i can tell the website isn't intended to be used and alot of the pricing is placeholder perhaps...
if it was me...id either finish the webpage to the standard required or remove it completely...
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All this talk and you still wont reveal how much you paid for the bat... :)
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The irony of all this trouble lol...
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@delazy what did you pay for the bat? we would all like to know.
when you purchase bat online or direct from the batmaker without handling it, it is really pot luck what you get.
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All this talk and you still wont reveal how much you paid for the bat... :)
Because he’s a mate of this bloke and got one for free? 😂
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Because he’s a mate of this bloke and got one for free? 😂
Then just say that, and we can move on
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Because he’s a mate of this bloke and got one for free? 😂
I wish that was the case...I'd be $300/£170 better for it...
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wow had a power outage last night (thanks to the storms) and looks like i missed quite a bit on here!
ill try and give my opinion on a few points that have been made above based on my visit to ryan. As we all know the current grading of 'shop' bats basically comes down to grain structure and blemishes, eg a G1 bat in a shop needs to have X amount of straight evenly spaced grains and nil or very minor blemishes. My experience with Ryan thus far is Ryan places more importance on the ping and pickup of the bat, and lets face it we are buying these things for performance as apposed to putting it on a shelf, so I think he has the right mindset here.
Example would be the bat I have chosen. I am paying $800 for my bat. Not something i was originally thinking of sharing but at the end of the day its going to make little difference. When I get my bat ill post up pics, its definetley not the prettiest bat but the ping was astounding and the pickup (very important to me) was superb. Closest thing I could compare it to was he DC1080LE which i picked up at a specialist cricket centre in VIC. The pickup was quite similar but the hitman had considerably more ping. The DC was also $300 more than what im paying.
Id also like to touch on the stickers. My experience with Ryan is that he will put on whatever sticker on the bat you choose (within his range of stickers). This is misleading to the average shopper who is trying to 'grade' his inventory. I had full choice of stickers and ended up choosing the assasin sticker as i liked it best. I could have put a godfather sticker on it to make people think its a more expensive bat than what it is but I chose what I liked the most.
Hope this helps clear a few things up :D
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So he charges based on performance & not on the looks (which is the standard set by Willow manufacturers) . It means a G4 or G5 Hitman bat can cost $800 just because it pings :o
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wow had a power outage last night (thanks to the storms) and looks like i missed quite a bit on here!
ill try and give my opinion on a few points that have been made above based on my visit to ryan. As we all know the current grading of 'shop' bats basically comes down to grain structure and blemishes, eg a G1 bat in a shop needs to have X amount of straight evenly spaced grains and nil or very minor blemishes. My experience with Ryan thus far is Ryan places more importance on the ping and pickup of the bat, and lets face it we are buying these things for performance as apposed to putting it on a shelf, so I think he has the right mindset here.
Example would be the bat I have chosen. I am paying $800 for my bat. Not something i was originally thinking of sharing but at the end of the day its going to make little difference. When I get my bat ill post up pics, its definetley not the prettiest bat but the ping was astounding and the pickup (very important to me) was superb. Closest thing I could compare it to was he DC1080LE which i picked up at a specialist cricket centre in VIC. The pickup was quite similar but the hitman had considerably more ping. The DC was also $300 more than what im paying.
Id also like to touch on the stickers. My experience with Ryan is that he will put on whatever sticker on the bat you choose (within his range of stickers). This is misleading to the average shopper who is trying to 'grade' his inventory. I had full choice of stickers and ended up choosing the assasin sticker as i liked it best. I could have put a godfather sticker on it to make people think its a more expensive bat than what it is but I chose what I liked the most.
Hope this helps clear a few things up :D
I review lots of bats and there a quite a few around that ping like a NB LE. There is nothing really special about that. My B3 Beluga Crown is way better that that for example and it cost me way less that that delivered from the UK. A Bradbury classic I reviewed recently was even cheaper and soft pressed as per the buyers request. I can list off a dozen other brands that ping immediately too. The Aussie GN handmade range is easily one, a great off the shelf choice. Soft pressing is not something special and bat makers avoid it as it is not durable. Look at all the pro bat faces on tv and you will see dry delaminated and severe cracking bats. There is nothing special about the brand except the exaggerated claims and rubbishing everyone else in the market.
This thread is just turning into a propaganda campaign just like every other bit of social media they jump on. Please close this thread Admin.
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So he charges based on performance & not on the looks (which is the standard set by Willow manufacturers) . It means a G4 or G5 Hitman bat can cost $800 just because it pings :o
not exactly what I said, just pointed out, that i feel, he places more importance on the performance and pick up than the looks.
looks are still important, to everyone, but not the deciding factor on how his bats are priced.
again this is all my opinion and what I felt when i discussed and visited Ryan.
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I review lots of bats and there a quite a few around that ping like a NB LE. There is nothing really special about that. My B3 Beluga Crown is way better that that for example and it cost me way less that that delivered from the UK. A Bradbury classic I reviewed recently was even cheaper and soft pressed as per the buyers request. I can list off a dozen other brands that ping immediately too. The Aussie GN handmade range is easily one, a great off the shelf choice. Soft pressing is not something special and bat makers avoid it as it is not durable. Look at all the pro bat faces on tv and you will see dry delaminated and severe cracking bats. There is nothing special about the brand except the exaggerated claims and rubbishing everyone else in the market.
This thread is just turning into a propaganda campaign just like every other bit of social media they jump on. Please close this thread Admin.
certainly some valid points in your post however i would be dissapointed if this thread closed.
we have a bat maker and some people have expressed interest on performance. some like myself are purchasing/purchased one.
i dont see the harm in posting feedback on our experience and opinion.
Seems to be allot of concern on this forum with people having links to brands etc fabricating or pushing their product on people, anyone is welcome to look into me as I have no relationship what so ever with hitman and until a couple of months ago didnt even know they existed.
All my comments on this thread are MY OPINION and while im far from an expert i like to think some of my comments and opinions might help someone with their decision making process in the future.
Cheers
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Who is that bat maker?
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First name is Ryan, no idea what surname is
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First name is Ryan, no idea what surname is
He'd be the brand/seller/stickeruperer , but not the bat maker . There's nothing wrong per se with a brand not being the bat maker , but there is a difference.
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Who is that bat maker?
I'm pretty certain they have been mentioned atleast twice in the past 7 pages...but would mostly be an assumption...whether they are made by said business or sourced by them I'm also unsure
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Hitman/Ulysses/Ryan = frauds and cons.
Claiming to have bats made for international players.
Source their bats from Pakistan/India which are over dried and make false claims like their player bats or top grade bats made by them. All lies. And what's more annoying you get some people who are either fooled by them or maybe someone close to them to back them up on social media and internet to make them look all authentic and true.
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I review lots of bats and there a quite a few around that ping like a NB LE. There is nothing really special about that. My B3 Beluga Crown is way better that that for example and it cost me way less that that delivered from the UK. A Bradbury classic I reviewed recently was even cheaper and soft pressed as per the buyers request. I can list off a dozen other brands that ping immediately too. The Aussie GN handmade range is easily one, a great off the shelf choice. Soft pressing is not something special and bat makers avoid it as it is not durable. Look at all the pro bat faces on tv and you will see dry delaminated and severe cracking bats. There is nothing special about the brand except the exaggerated claims and rubbishing everyone else in the market.
This thread is just turning into a propaganda campaign just like every other bit of social media they jump on. Please close this thread Admin.
Well said. 100% agree. Their bats are imports mainly from CA
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Doesn't mean it's not a good un (my match bat for the last 3 years is a has been a low end CA that flies), but would i be correct in suggesting the grip means it's likely a Pakistan made bat?
Well spotted. It certainly is a Pakistani made bat. Hitman thinks the public are fools
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I'm pretty certain they have been mentioned atleast twice in the past 7 pages...but would mostly be an assumption...whether they are made by said business or sourced by them I'm also unsure
Only name I've seen mentioned was a guy stickering up mystery bats in his bedroom from a bat maker that only makes bat's for pro's. All seems very far fetched, especially his prices.
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Only name I've seen mentioned was a guy stickering up mystery bats in his bedroom from a bat maker that only makes bat's for pro's. All seems very far fetched, especially his prices.
I was suggesting that Ulysses had been mentioned by a number of people..
regardless personally I'm happy with the 'ugly' stick I ended up with for the money that I paid...it's the profile I wanted, it's pickup/balance is nice, the weight is spot on and I didn't cost me an absolute fortune...
I absolutely jumped in the deep end based on the feedback/video reviews and otherwise that were on social media...not going to deny it...had the various comments been made earlier in this thread and had I stumbled upon this prior to ordering I might have second thought the purchase and instead buy something custom for JPgavan (which will happen regardless just would have been sooner)
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glad your happy with it coz this site has taken a bit of the joy out of my purchase also
please let me know your thoughts once you use it in a game and ill make sure i do the same :D
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glad your happy with it coz this site has taken a bit of the joy out of my purchase also
please let me know your thoughts once you use it in a game and ill make sure i do the same :D
I wouldn't let it bother you if you are happy with what you have received, it's the nonsense claims he makes about pro bats etc that put''s people off.
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know what your saying, either way they will be another photo of one up here in a couple of week ;)
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know what your saying, either way they will be another photo of one up here in a couple of week ;)
So is this bat being custom made for you? Or is it already made? Will be the end of the season by the time it arrives!
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Gave ryan my requirements bout a month and a half ago, visited him couple of weeks back and he shows me (made but not knocked in or stickered) picked the one the felt the best.
So yes it was made based on what I wanted but when I went to look at it was already put together.
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Gave ryan my requirements bout a month and a half ago, visited him couple of weeks back and he shows me (made but not knocked in or stickered) picked the one the felt the best.
So yes it was made based on what I wanted but when I went to look at it was already put together.
Ok, so it’s taken a month to get the bat “made,” then you still have to wait weeks for it to be knocked in? Unless he’s dealing with hundreds of other people at the same time, this is a long process! Put the stickers on yourself and knock it in with a bowling machine.
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if im honest, and i generally am, they delay has been my fault as I wanted the funds ready to go before he started the build and knocking in, in case i had to pull out of the sale for whatever reason.
still a long process but Ryan knocks in by hand and I wanted the bat after Chrissy so I can try it in the nets before first game back after the break
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Am i the only one thinking that delazy and BIGGIE may be involved in the operation. This just screams promotion if im honest. Overpriced and underwhelming from the examples ive seen, sounded awful, 1 looked nice but was a $900 model with 3qtr heartwood with close on 20 grains. With some of the claims he has in regards to having this pro's bat and someone elses bats, i wonder what the pros are using as he seems to have them all.
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why are there so many people here paranoid that people are 'in bed' with certain companies?
not sure how i could prove i have no affiliation with hitman other than say it over and over again.....
chain of events:
looked in the bigger shops
looked on ebay
saw an ad on fb
sent msg, liked the response
visited and checked out the stock
await bat to be delievered
THE END
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Two people coming onto the forum at exactly the same time, making the same over positive claims about the same brand, one that had been discussed and dismissed not long before you arrived I believe. Coincidence - perhaps, fishy - absolutely.
Those of us who have been on here for more than 35 odd posts have seen all of this sheet before so forgive us for our sceptism.
No harm in trying a new brand, but an over-expensive one with wild claims when there are hundreds of other ones in Aus, some that actually make their bats in Aus rather than getting them shipped in, it’s just a bit hard to believe.
Maybe we’re all just narrow minded and forgive us for that, but you have no idea of the previous experiences we’ve had.
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Am i the only one thinking that delazy and BIGGIE may be involved in the operation. This just screams promotion if im honest. Overpriced and underwhelming from the examples ive seen, sounded awful, 1 looked nice but was a $900 model with 3qtr heartwood with close on 20 grains. With some of the claims he has in regards to having this pro's bat and someone elses bats, i wonder what the pros are using as he seems to have them all.
yeh look once again...not even slightly affiliated with him...i whole admit purchased a bat based on the social media hype/other feedback and that the offering matched my budget/wants...
i stumbled across this forum while researching the ayrtek helmets and noticed hitman had a mention...i had already ordered my bat and felt i should contribute my own thoughts rather than heresay...
i am happy with my $300 purchase...it fit the bill of what i wanted and at this point in time i have no reason to think it is rubbish...
i dont think i would have spent more on the higher end stuff but thats mostly me being a tightass...had more of the information about bat origins and the like been made more public knowledge earlier in the thread i might very well not have made the purchase to begin with and opted for a jpgavan custom bat instead...
that said if at all to make this thread productive...i am curious and mostly because i will likely add another bat to the kit early next year...what would the various bat snobs on here suggest i purchase that would be similar weight (2lb7-2lb8) of similar mid-low profile? budgeting potentially up to $400AUD/230GBP
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Bat snobs is a crude name to call people who have a better understanding of gear than you do.
This is where you use the forum to your advantage. There are a number of forum sponsors (you already knew that, obviously) that could have made exactly what you wanted, in the grade you wanted, for potentially less than you bought your Hitman for.
The people on here will help you if you need advice and if you ask around, they probably have the exact bat you’re looking for, untouched and unused under their bed that they’d be more than willing to ship.
But what do I know, eh? I’m just a bat snob.
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that said if at all to make this thread productive...i am curious and mostly because i will likely add another bat to the kit early next year...what would the various bat snobs on here suggest i purchase that would be similar weight (2lb7-2lb8) of similar mid-low profile? budgeting potentially up to $400AUD/230GBP
Can happily get you something made to your specs for this figure, feel free to drop me a message :)
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But what do I know, eh? I’m just a bat snob.
tongue in cheek remark mate ;) take it as a sign of respect that you know something... just the same as im ignoring accusations of being involved in the hitman brand
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Way too much waffle & nowhere near enough photos...
I feel like I’ve been subjected to an infomercial
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that said if at all to make this thread productive...i am curious and mostly because i will likely add another bat to the kit early next year...what would the various bat snobs on here suggest i purchase that would be similar weight (2lb7-2lb8) of similar mid-low profile? budgeting potentially up to $400AUD/230GBP
EASY!!!!! buy ar GN XP70 650 from Kingsgrove. Contact Skip (at Kingsgrove) ask him to select one on performance. All the ones I have are just fantastic. I hate to say it, but they are better than the G1 bats I have or had and that includes my Laver and an ex-pro's Bradbury. For your $400 you can get TWO.
https://www.kingsgrovesports.com.au/gray-nicolls-xp-70-650-ready-play-bat.html (https://www.kingsgrovesports.com.au/gray-nicolls-xp-70-650-ready-play-bat.html)
****Disclaimer****
I know all I do is bang on about how good my XP70 is, but I would like it made public that I have nothing to do with either Kingsgrove or GN. However I would except a discount if offered by either
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tongue in cheek remark mate ;) take it as a sign of respect that you know something... just the same as im ignoring accusations of being involved in the hitman brand
No worries friend, you have a great day. ;)
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EASY!!!!! buy ar GN XP70 650 from Kingsgrove. Contact Skip (at Kingsgrove) ask him to select one on performance. All the ones I have are just fantastic. I hate to say it, but they are better than the G1 bats I have or had and that includes my Laver and an ex-pro's Bradbury. For your $400 you can get TWO.
https://www.kingsgrovesports.com.au/gray-nicolls-xp-70-650-ready-play-bat.html (https://www.kingsgrovesports.com.au/gray-nicolls-xp-70-650-ready-play-bat.html)
****Disclaimer****
I know all I do is bang on about how good my XP70 is, but I would like it made public that I have nothing to do with either Kingsgrove or GN. However I would except a discount if offered by either
@jblowe can you let me have contact details for the guy at kings grove, I have contacted them and GCCC via the "contact us section " on websites and never had a reply
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This thread is shitenhousen .
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9 pages of free publicity is not bad under any circumstances.
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9 pages of free publicity is not bad under any circumstances.
But will anyone on here buy one?
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Am i the only one thinking that delazy and BIGGIE may be involved in the operation. This just screams promotion if im honest.
This must mean 90% of the forum are in bed with B3 and H4L ;)
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This must mean 90% of the forum are in bed with B3 and H4L ;)
Not 90% maybe about 50%. But clearly we can see the pattern of 2 new members join and both talk about and purchase from Hitman. Certainly not a coincident
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Can I ask, with all due respect, who cares?? Two guys give their bat reviews. Whether they're biased or not, we all have pics and prices in front of us - nobody is forcing anyone else to buy... why have this public media trial?
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Can I ask, with all due respect, who cares?? Two guys give their bat reviews. Whether they're biased or not, we all have pics and prices in front of us - nobody is forcing anyone else to buy... why have this public media trial?
Because they could be false misleading reviews made to sell bats, most advertising needs some factual basis. The forum is about providing genuine info/experiences to entertain or help/advise ppl. Balance of reason suggests to me that caution is required with these two posters advice.
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Because they could be false misleading reviews made to sell bats, most advertising needs some factual basis. The forum is about providing genuine info/experiences to entertain or help/advise ppl. Balance of reason suggests to me that caution is required with these two posters advice.
You sir are a clown! Like biggie I have no claims to hitman or the owner let alone Ulysses or other affiliations...I've been transparent with comments and photos...if I was trying to flog bats for someone I highly doubt I'd post a photo of a handle with less than ideal finishing
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Two people coming onto the forum at exactly the same time, making the same over positive claims about the same brand, one that had been discussed and dismissed not long before you arrived I believe. Coincidence - perhaps, fishy - absolutely.
Those of us who have been on here for more than 35 odd posts have seen all of this sheet before so forgive us for our sceptism.
No harm in trying a new brand, but an over-expensive one with wild claims when there are hundreds of other ones in Aus, some that actually make their bats in Aus rather than getting them shipped in, it’s just a bit hard to believe.
Maybe we’re all just narrow minded and forgive us for that, but you have no idea of the previous experiences we’ve had.
certainly some valid points an undoubtably some co-incidences! wont be too much longer now before I try it in the nets and in a game and then get a proper review happening! :D
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If you make outrageous, inflated claims, then expect incisive, cynical criticism.
If that’s your approach, then deal with it!
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Because they could be false misleading reviews made to sell bats, most advertising needs some factual basis. The forum is about providing genuine info/experiences to entertain or help/advise ppl. Balance of reason suggests to me that caution is required with these two posters advice.
Well said!
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If you make outrageous, inflated claims, then expect incisive, cynical criticism.
If that’s your approach, then deal with it!
who's made outrageous claims? I certainly havent! Im just trying to share my experience and feedback thus far with the purchase of my first custom made bat. If i bought one off the shelf id post it up and would be done with it.
no issue with people posting up their feelings about the claims and the way he advertises his products, but lets hold back and the quality of product/false claims from new members until the product arrives and its tested.
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Not you @BIGGIE - you've done nothing wrong. I've got no problem with the reviews you and @delazy have done - fair enough for the sticks you have bought.
I meant Hitman, if he chooses to market himself in the cocky way that he does, that's fine, but expect people to take exception and look for holes, it's just human nature.
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You sir are a clown! Like biggie I have no claims to hitman or the owner let alone Ulysses or other affiliations...I've been transparent with comments and photos...if I was trying to flog bats for someone I highly doubt I'd post a photo of a handle with less than ideal finishing
It may seem unfair to you, but don't take it personally.