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Equipment => Helmets => Topic started by: Kez on February 04, 2017, 08:59:03 PM
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Yes in true CBF style i should just buy a new helmet but...
Would a shrey neck guard fit on my Masuri, which has this shape grill?
(http://cf1.s3.souqcdn.com/item/2013/05/06/51/69/35/1/item_L_5169351_1950416.jpg)
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Our neck guard will, I've also got a Shrey one of ur after one?
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Our neck guard will, I've also got a Shrey one of ur after one?
Tried to call on you for this until it logged me out! Glad youve seen it though
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I use an ayrtek neck guard on my Masuri. Decent fit.
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Our neck guard will, I've also got a Shrey one of ur after one?
Is that a yes, the Shrey works Tom? Either could be an option. Thanks
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Is that a yes, the Shrey works Tom? Either could be an option. Thanks
I'd have to check the sheet one for tomorrow as masuri lids not at home.
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@Ayrtek Cricket that would be great thanks! also what price are they both?
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@Kez The Shrey one will be £17.75 and the Ayrtek one £39.99, the Ayrtek version is obviously a bit more advanced than the Shrey one as it was designed in conjunction with Stretton Fox with the fact that a test standard for the neck guards is being looked at being introduced.
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Has the ECB recommended contract players wear neck guards?
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Has the ECB recommended contract players wear neck guards?
Not sure if the ECB have but some counties have mandated that players need to use them.
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Any idea why?
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Any idea why?
Elf and safe tea
I think it's a "prevention is the best cure" mentality, so they're trying to remove as much risk as possible
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Any idea why?
Sh!ts and giggles obviously
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Couldn't agree more.
Phil Hughes wasn't killed by the ball impacting his neck so why are people buying these?
Unless we really want to get specific then he was, so I can see why people might want to feel protected.
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if players just watched the ball then they wouldn't be needed
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if players just watched the ball then they wouldn't be needed
I presume you bat without pads also?
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if players just watched the ball then they wouldn't be needed
Yeah you're right mate, blokes who get paid to play cricket against the other best players on the planet haven't got a clue, imagine the runs they'd score if they watched the ball.
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if players just watched the ball then they wouldn't be needed
And if they do watch the ball... get one that pops off a length, they then instinctively turn they're head and get clocked on the back of the neck and we have another awful tragedy like the phil Hughes accident, you'd be ok with that?
I'm not entirely sure why people even consider these a bad thing? If they help protect them what's the harm? Personally I don't use one but that's my choice as I feel it will result in a lack of movement if any thing does go wrong but that's just me!
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if players just watched the ball then they wouldn't be needed
Tell Adam Voges.
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if players just watched the ball then they wouldn't be needed
I might have a net with just a stump and no protective equipment, that would encourage me to watch the ball more closely...
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Modern players particuly professionals get hid on the head far more than they did in the past.
This is because of helmets and change in techniques that these have caused.
No helmet is impreganble at the moment and this can been seen by the number of professional players who have suffered from concussion despite wearing a helmet.
A well known ex player from 60/70's whose soon plays for our club suggests that in his day players didn't wear helmets but rarely got hit because they watched the ball. Not only did this mean that they didn't get hit it generally meant they were better hookers and pullers (this is a genralisation clearly there are stilll good hookers and pullers now).
So whilst I would never suggest helmets are a bad thing potentially the regresion in technique which they have caused is causing more players to get hit and they could be leading to more head injuries.
At an amateur level how often does the ball actually get to head height? I play 1 level division below ECB prem so a decent standard but I can count on one hand the balls that go head high during a whole season.
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I never wore a helmet for 20 years until 3 years ago I top edged a net bowler onto my eye brow narrowly missing my eye socket. Stitches job 3 weeks before a stag do trip to vegas
Now I wear one all the time
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Interesting post, thanks and there is a lot to agree with. Tgere is a clear fall in standards of technique, combined with a significantly more aggressive outlook by batsman which does increase the likelihood of someone being hit in the head.
I have played at Div one level and got peppered. I have also played on terrible pitches at a much lower level and seen bouncers bowled. I haven't seen a reduction in people trying to bowl short!
As for the neck guard argument, I was a late adopter to wearing a lid and probably will at some point buy a neck guard, but haven't gone there as yet.
I have fitted one to my son's lid so he gets used to it before he knows anything different
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Neck guard = safety, saftey = higher chance of living life longer... More chance to do sledge the 14 year old that tries to dilshan a quickie.. :D
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I've used both shrey and Masuri with the appropriate neck/stem guards and they don't restrict any movement. Once I have the lid on I can't notice any difference.
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I've used both shrey and Masuri with the appropriate neck/stem guards and they don't restrict any movement. Once I have the lid on I can't notice any difference.
Agree. It makes putting the lid on a bit of a faff but once it's on and settled I don't notice mine.
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Having used the NekTek all last year I can honestly say after the 2nd or 3rd time wearing it you don't even notice it's there apart from the odd sledge you get (never really got someone sledging potentially life saving equipment)
Anybody that wears a helmet I don't know why you wouldn't wear one
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I've used both shrey and Masuri with the appropriate neck/stem guards and they don't restrict any movement. Once I have the lid on I can't notice any difference.
Masuri I agree but I knew the neck guard was there on my Shrey as it was actually resting against the back of my head.
That said it wasn't irritating or uncomfortable, just different to wearing a lid without one.
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Anyone doubting these neck guards use watch England's odi today Morgan took one square on the stemguard could no doubt have been a bad injury if it wasn't there
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Through he shot early which exposed the vulnerable area.
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So do we blame slower ball bouncers for these injuries?
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Morgan hit on the head again?
You'd think he couldn't play the short ball for how often that happens, wouldn't you...
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So do we blame slower ball bouncers for these injuries?
No you blame the batsmen for opting to play it instead of ducking it and having done so then not playing it very well.
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The way we should look at it is that we are playing a sport with all the relevant safety measures, we all as players have a choice to or not to wear a helmet and another choice whether to have a stem/neck guard. It should the choice of the player alone. With regards to the devices that I've seen the Masuri Stem Guard is superior to all others (I've been using one for over a year). You can't feel the Stem Guard all you hear is a small clunking when you run but its easy to get used to. I've personally never been sledged for wearing a stem guard but this could be due to playing Prem and Div 1 standard where you do come across the odd ex international or current county player. I feel that as an amateur player that is playing for the enjoyment of the sport that its a good thing as I'm not being paid so take that element of risk out of the equation, in fact its helped me playing the short ball as I trust that if I misjudge the delivery then I'm wearing the best protective piece on the market.